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Jaques2go Sep 2nd 2009 1:57 am

Re: Are people on pensions staying?
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 7897047)
Nearly impossible to get fresh veg in a restaurant on the CDS.


....................guess its a case of chose your restaurants carefully - even in Benidorm ive had lovely fresh salads...............(and wonderful cream cakes)

lynnxa Sep 2nd 2009 2:10 am

Re: Are people on pensions staying?
 

Originally Posted by Jaques2go (Post 7897126)
....................guess its a case of chose your restaurants carefully - even in Benidorm ive had lovely fresh salads...............(and wonderful cream cakes)

best of both worlds then............


it's funny how we run down Benidorm, but the spanish go there in droves & love the place:rofl:

whitelinen Sep 2nd 2009 2:11 am

Re: Are people on pensions staying?
 

Originally Posted by Jaques2go (Post 7897126)
....................guess its a case of chose your restaurants carefully - even in Benidorm ive had lovely fresh salads...............(and wonderful cream cakes)


Like anyone is gonna go to Benidorm to get a salad and a cake.

A bit like telling people who live in Windsor to pop down to Hastings for a fish supper:rofl:

By the way have you ever read the reviews of Hasting on Chavtowns?

JLFS Sep 2nd 2009 2:19 am

Re: Are people on pensions staying?
 
There have been a few comments about fresh veg.
Most Spanish people do not really "do veg", most Spanish restaurants do not serve any veg with meals.
Even in home cooking veg is not so used, potatoes onions, and a few carrots maybe.
For example cauliflower is not eaten, only when it is an ingredient in a salted cod dish.
Cabbage or kale(I think that is what it is called) is only eaten in caldo.
What the Brits do with their veg is not the way all over Spain.
As a kid I was faced with mounds of veg with school dinners, I nearly ran out the door.
I soon got the taste of it though, and now, when visiting Galicia we both miss our veg.
I know that there is always a small salad with meals, but salad is not veg, and for me a nice roasted meat needs more than a few lettuce leaves and toms.

cricketman Sep 2nd 2009 2:28 am

Re: Are people on pensions staying?
 

Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 7897177)
There have been a few comments about fresh veg.
Most Spanish people do not really "do veg", most Spanish restaurants do not serve any veg with meals.
Even in home cooking veg is not so used, potatoes onions, and a few carrots maybe.
For example cauliflower is not eaten, only when it is an ingredient in a salted cod dish.
Cabbage or kale(I think that is what it is called) is only eaten in caldo.
What the Brits do with their veg is not the way all over Spain.
As a kid I was faced with mounds of veg with school dinners, I nearly ran out the door.
I soon got the taste of it though, and now, when visiting Galicia we both miss our veg.
I know that there is always a small salad with meals, but salad is not veg, and for me a nice roasted meat needs more than a few lettuce leaves and toms.

As you say, Spanish food normally does not have a side postion of cooked veg, instead there may be a salad to share or as a starter.

Peppers, onions and carrots go with meat or in stews, there are aubergines in Andalucia and calcots in Catalunya. Asparagos is eaten all of the country in revueltos and such like. Awesome avocado in the Malaga/Granada region.

Loads of pulses though, lentejas, garbanzos, fabas, habas, lubias etc

My OH (who is Spanish) would say the British boil there veg to the point where they dont have to taste it :)

btw imo, Galicia and Asturias are food paradises! :)

JLFS Sep 2nd 2009 2:29 am

Re: Are people on pensions staying?
 
[QUOTE=whitelinen;7897153]Like anyone is gonna go to Benidorm to get a salad and a cake.

A bit like telling people who live in Windsor to pop down to Hastings for a fish supper:rofl:

By the way have you ever read the reviews of Hasting on Chavtowns?

[/QUOT
I have often had a salad in Benidorm, in Brit bars.

One of those, with everything separate (not misxed together in a bowl, and grated cheese or a big chunck of strong cheddar, hard boiled eggs,and a few thick slices of corned beef, pickled onions. Salad cream and bread and butter.

'kin magic. Love it....

A very underated meal, I think

Hondon Rock n Roll Sep 2nd 2009 2:34 am

Re: Are people on pensions staying?
 

Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 7897177)
There have been a few comments about fresh veg.
Most Spanish people do not really "do veg", most Spanish restaurants do not serve any veg with meals.
Even in home cooking veg is not so used, potatoes onions, and a few carrots maybe.
For example cauliflower is not eaten, only when it is an ingredient in a salted cod dish.
Cabbage or kale(I think that is what it is called) is only eaten in caldo.
What the Brits do with their veg is not the way all over Spain.
As a kid I was faced with mounds of veg with school dinners, I nearly ran out the door.
I soon got the taste of it though, and now, when visiting Galicia we both miss our veg.
I know that there is always a small salad with meals, but salad is not veg, and for me a nice roasted meat needs more than a few lettuce leaves and toms.

If this is the case, why on a Saturday morning in our local market are the spanish ladies buying bagfuls of veg. eg. celery, carrots, asparagus, parsnips, artchichokes etc etc. I know because I have had to wait while they select it and get it all weighed, sometimes amounting to €15 -€20 worth?:confused:

JLFS Sep 2nd 2009 2:34 am

Re: Are people on pensions staying?
 

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 7897219)
As you say, Spanish food normally does not have a side postion of cooked veg, instead there may be a salad to share or as a starter.

Peppers, onions and carrots go with meat or in stews, there are aubergines in Andalucia and calcots in Catalunya. Asparagos is eaten all of the country in revueltos and such like. Awesome avocado in the Malaga/Granada region.

Loads of pulses though, lentejas, garbanzos, fabas, habas, lubias etc

My OH (who is Spanish) would say the British boil there veg to the point where they dont have to taste it :)



And me (Spanish) and my OH (UK born with Spanish parents) say that at one time the British DID boil the boil the veg to death, but not now.
I dont know anyone that eats or cooks the overboiled, tastless mush that you are talking about, not in this day and age.

As you pointed out, veg is only used as an ingredient, in fabada and such like, but we like to have some with lamb chops for example.

steviedeluxe Sep 2nd 2009 2:35 am

Re: Are people on pensions staying?
 

Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 7897177)
There have been a few comments about fresh veg.
Most Spanish people do not really "do veg", most Spanish restaurants do not serve any veg with meals.
Even in home cooking veg is not so used, potatoes onions, and a few carrots maybe.
For example cauliflower is not eaten, only when it is an ingredient in a salted cod dish.
Cabbage or kale(I think that is what it is called) is only eaten in caldo.
What the Brits do with their veg is not the way all over Spain.
As a kid I was faced with mounds of veg with school dinners, I nearly ran out the door.
I soon got the taste of it though, and now, when visiting Galicia we both miss our veg.
I know that there is always a small salad with meals, but salad is not veg, and for me a nice roasted meat needs more than a few lettuce leaves and toms.

Hmm, I must have been privileged in Madrid then - most menus had a "veggie" choice (often with ham tho!) as first course eg guisantes, jubias,Russian salad, pisto, asparagus, even Pote Gallego, lentejas or Fabada Asturiana. The range of homegrown beans and pulses is fantastic - drawback being of course they are sold in a dried state and you have to soak overnight before cooking.
It's the dessert/pudding part that I miss from the UK when in Spain!

steviedeluxe Sep 2nd 2009 2:37 am

Re: Are people on pensions staying?
 

Originally Posted by Hondon Rock n Roll (Post 7897234)
If this is the case, why on a Saturday morning in our local market are the spanish ladies buying bagfuls of veg. eg. celery, carrots, asparagus, parsnips, artchichokes etc etc. I know because I have had to wait while they select it and get it all weighed, sometimes amounting to €15 -€20 worth?:confused:

Parsnips? Are you sure? I thought it was only us Brits who cooked parsnips for the dinner table!

lynnxa Sep 2nd 2009 2:39 am

Re: Are people on pensions staying?
 

Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 7897237)
Hmm, I must have been privileged in Madrid then - most menus had a "veggie" choice (often with ham tho!) as first course eg guisantes, jubias,Russian salad, pisto, asparagus, even Pote Gallego, lentejas or Fabada Asturiana. The range of homegrown beans and pulses is fantastic - drawback being of course they are sold in a dried state and you have to soak overnight before cooking.
It's the dessert/pudding part that I miss from the UK when in Spain!

almost everything on your list is beans & pulses!!!:rofl:

cricketman Sep 2nd 2009 2:40 am

Re: Are people on pensions staying?
 

Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 7897235)
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And me (Spanish) and my OH (UK born with Spanish parents) say that at one time the British DID boil the boil the veg to death, but not now.
I dont know anyone that eats or cooks the overboiled, tastless mush that you are talking about, not in this day and age.

As you pointed out, veg is only used as an ingredient, in fabada and such like, but we like to have some with lamb chops for example.

Our experience of living 5 yesrs in London must have been an imaginary bad dream then. And we were definitely not living on a budget. Maybe the whole British food system has changed since we left in 2007 :rofl:

Though I have to say we are very spoilt my suegros are amazing cooks and my OH has been very spoilt. For example, when we eat jamon it is jamon de jabugo, when we eat fish it is wild - and they know all the best restaurants

The food is incredible in Galicia, I'm just amazed by your opinions. But hey the world is a varied place. My OH's brother would rather eat pizza than bogavante :)

Hondon Rock n Roll Sep 2nd 2009 2:41 am

Re: Are people on pensions staying?
 

Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 7897243)
Parsnips? Are you sure? I thought it was only us Brits who cooked parsnips for the dinner table!

Yes!

cricketman Sep 2nd 2009 2:42 am

Re: Are people on pensions staying?
 

Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 7897243)
Parsnips? Are you sure? I thought it was only us Brits who cooked parsnips for the dinner table!

It is, my OH had never seen them before

JLFS Sep 2nd 2009 2:51 am

Re: Are people on pensions staying?
 

Originally Posted by Hondon Rock n Roll (Post 7897234)
If this is the case, why on a Saturday morning in our local market are the spanish ladies buying bagfuls of veg. eg. celery, carrots, asparagus, parsnips, artchichokes etc etc. I know because I have had to wait while they select it and get it all weighed, sometimes amounting to €15 -€20 worth?:confused:


And you think that where you are is a true refelection of the whole of Spain,

What about Galicia, Segovia. As I said before veg is used as ingredients in certain dishes, this region may have some that use parsnips, I dont know.
But as a rule, Spanish "Dont do veg".
They make stews with carrots, but you would never get a portion of carrots with a meal. That is all I am saying.
Have I ever said that Spanish dont buy veg??????


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