Opening bank a/c in spain
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Thanks for that. It does make sense.
I don't have a problem paying tax in Spain for this financial year. But I won't have lived here for 183 days so I think the UK are going to expect me to pay tax there.
Sounds like I need a gestor.
So, to open a bank account here, I need more than just a TIE. I need some record that I'm registered with Hacienda?
I don't have a problem paying tax in Spain for this financial year. But I won't have lived here for 183 days so I think the UK are going to expect me to pay tax there.
Sounds like I need a gestor.
So, to open a bank account here, I need more than just a TIE. I need some record that I'm registered with Hacienda?
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Actually the banks seem to be lost as to what to do.
The situation is that I arrived mid-July, so I'll be less than 183 days in Spain and therefore (as I understand it) tax resident in the UK for this year.
But I arrived on a tourist visa so needed to apply for residency immediately, which I did, successfully.
So I'm resident but not tax-resident.
The banks can open an account for you if you're tax-resident in Spain, and they can open one for you if you are non-resident, but they have no clue what to do if you are resident but not tax-resident.
And I'm about to buy a house so I need an account in Spain.
The situation is that I arrived mid-July, so I'll be less than 183 days in Spain and therefore (as I understand it) tax resident in the UK for this year.
But I arrived on a tourist visa so needed to apply for residency immediately, which I did, successfully.
So I'm resident but not tax-resident.
The banks can open an account for you if you're tax-resident in Spain, and they can open one for you if you are non-resident, but they have no clue what to do if you are resident but not tax-resident.
And I'm about to buy a house so I need an account in Spain.
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Actually the banks seem to be lost as to what to do.
The situation is that I arrived mid-July, so I'll be less than 183 days in Spain and therefore (as I understand it) tax resident in the UK for this year.
But I arrived on a tourist visa so needed to apply for residency immediately, which I did, successfully.
So I'm resident but not tax-resident.
The banks can open an account for you if you're tax-resident in Spain, and they can open one for you if you are non-resident, but they have no clue what to do if you are resident but not tax-resident.
And I'm about to buy a house so I need an account in Spain.
The situation is that I arrived mid-July, so I'll be less than 183 days in Spain and therefore (as I understand it) tax resident in the UK for this year.
But I arrived on a tourist visa so needed to apply for residency immediately, which I did, successfully.
So I'm resident but not tax-resident.
The banks can open an account for you if you're tax-resident in Spain, and they can open one for you if you are non-resident, but they have no clue what to do if you are resident but not tax-resident.
And I'm about to buy a house so I need an account in Spain.
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Actually the banks seem to be lost as to what to do.
The situation is that I arrived mid-July, so I'll be less than 183 days in Spain and therefore (as I understand it) tax resident in the UK for this year.
But I arrived on a tourist visa so needed to apply for residency immediately, which I did, successfully.
So I'm resident but not tax-resident.
The banks can open an account for you if you're tax-resident in Spain, and they can open one for you if you are non-resident, but they have no clue what to do if you are resident but not tax-resident.
And I'm about to buy a house so I need an account in Spain.
The situation is that I arrived mid-July, so I'll be less than 183 days in Spain and therefore (as I understand it) tax resident in the UK for this year.
But I arrived on a tourist visa so needed to apply for residency immediately, which I did, successfully.
So I'm resident but not tax-resident.
The banks can open an account for you if you're tax-resident in Spain, and they can open one for you if you are non-resident, but they have no clue what to do if you are resident but not tax-resident.
And I'm about to buy a house so I need an account in Spain.
Last edited by Ronnyone; Nov 8th 2022 at 9:00 pm.
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You are getting confused. There is no separation between a tax resident and resident - as far a day to day life is concerned and that is how the banks and the hacienda see things. I dont understand why you cant get a resident account if you have your TIE? Some where along the line you must have told them that you dont pay tax in Spain and therefore they wont give you a resident account. As far as they are concerned you are trying to play the system - ie get a cheaper resident account whilst similarly saying you don't have your centre of financial interest in Spain- Spain has very strict banking laws due to widespread fraud, money laundering and tax avoidance ( everyone remembers the caja B scenario where banks shielded money from the tax man) You need to go to the bank and talk to them but it sounds like at the moment you are confusing them by saying you aren't not a tax resident ( which you are, even though you haven't paid any).
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TBH I don't know . As in my edited post above. What do you mean tourist visa? No such thing exists. How did you get a TIE if you didn't already have NL visa from uk embassy in London or Edinburgh? And surely you had a Spanish account already in order to normally have been given a NIE to get a TIE. Then it begs the question who is paying your electricity, water, IBI if you don't already have an account?
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So to be clear cruchifrog( great name). You don't have a Spanish account but have lived here for nearly 4 months. You want to buy a house. You have a TIE card that you acquired without having a Visa. If you have a TIE you have a NIE.
Now you said you came on a tourist visa- no such thing exists for UK nats- maybe you mean you came on a NL visa which is what most Brits will use. With this you got a TIE. However, it doesn't explain how you have a Spanish address without some kind of bank account- as even renting normally means registering for electricity and water. Also do you not use a Spanish mobile or Internet? - both require Spanish IBAN numbers..
So how are you managing to live in Spain without a bank account?
Now you said you came on a tourist visa- no such thing exists for UK nats- maybe you mean you came on a NL visa which is what most Brits will use. With this you got a TIE. However, it doesn't explain how you have a Spanish address without some kind of bank account- as even renting normally means registering for electricity and water. Also do you not use a Spanish mobile or Internet? - both require Spanish IBAN numbers..
So how are you managing to live in Spain without a bank account?
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So to be clear cruchifrog( great name). You don't have a Spanish account but have lived here for nearly 4 months. You want to buy a house. You have a TIE card that you acquired without having a Visa. If you have a TIE you have a NIE.
Now you said you came on a tourist visa- no such thing exists for UK nats- maybe you mean you came on a NL visa which is what most Brits will use. With this you got a TIE. However, it doesn't explain how you have a Spanish address without some kind of bank account- as even renting normally means registering for electricity and water. Also do you not use a Spanish mobile or Internet? - both require Spanish IBAN numbers..
So how are you managing to live in Spain without a bank account?
Now you said you came on a tourist visa- no such thing exists for UK nats- maybe you mean you came on a NL visa which is what most Brits will use. With this you got a TIE. However, it doesn't explain how you have a Spanish address without some kind of bank account- as even renting normally means registering for electricity and water. Also do you not use a Spanish mobile or Internet? - both require Spanish IBAN numbers..
So how are you managing to live in Spain without a bank account?
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Not sure that post is relevant to this one? Unless you are suggesting that the tax situation relates to UK business in which case it could muddy the waters
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Okay Cruncifrog. I saw your previous posts and understand better your situation. You are married to Spanish nat so gained residency on back of that. However, it looks as if you have a slightly complicated tax situation due to having a registered UK company. I also imagine this is the reason you are keen not to be a Spanish tax payer for this year as it would mean CGT would be due. I imagine that this is the reason you aren't able to open a Spanish resident account as at somepoint you must have indicated that you don't want to be seen as a Spanish tax payer and therefore the bank won't process you as a resident. Best thing to do is open a non-tesident account now and then in January change it to a resident account.




