British Expats - NIE number

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Originally Posted by Loafing Along (Post 12017544)

Sorry Fred but you should double check.....For Tarjeta de Residencia read " Obliged to register " at the Dept of Foreigners in the district where they live if there for longer than three months. Also family members will require a Tarjeta de Residencia . If they are not working provide information on the funds available to sustain themselves in Spain as well as fill out the right forms.
All the info is on the official Police site - they administer the process
PÃ¡gina oficial de la DGP-DocumentaciÃ³n

Los interesados estarÃ¡n obligados a solicitar personalmente ante la Oficina de Extranjeros de la provincia donde pretendan permanecer o fijar su residencia o, en su defecto, ante la ComisarÃa de PolicÃa correspondiente, su inscripciÃ³n en el Registro Central de Extranjero
For the family :
La solicitud de la tarjeta de residencia de familiar de ciudadano de la UniÃ³n deberÃ¡ presentarse en el plazo de tres meses desde la fecha de entrada en EspaÃ±a, ante la Oficina de Extranjeros de la provincia donde el interesado pretenda permanecer o fijar su residencia o, en su defecto, ante la ComisarÃa de PolicÃa correspondiente.

There is NO SUCH THING as a 'tarjeta de residencia' for (EU members) any more - hasn't been since about 2006. You now simply sign on the register of foreigners.

This is obviously why people are often confused if even the 'extranjeria' are using invalid terms.

As I said earlier, the Tarjeta is only issued to non EU family members.

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Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 12017717)

As I said earlier, the Tarjeta is only issued to non EU family members.

If you look at the article though @Fred, it does state that EU members get a "tarjeta residencia" and that's from the national police who dole them out :confused:

What the article actually says is:-

included in the scope of Royal Decree 240/2007, of 16 February, not bearing the nationality of one of those States, when accompany or join them, may reside in Spain for more than three months

The EU directive spells it out very clearly.

1. Member States shall issue a residence card to family members of a Union citizen who are not
nationals of a Member State, where the planned period of residence is for more than three months.

Maybe we will be entitled to a nice card after Brexit!

Moving off topic slightly, I recall buying a mirror at a bathroom shop and they asked for my NIE number or passport. I hadn't got the number with me and all those years ago I hadn't committed it to memory. My passport was in my car parked nearby, but I didn't see why I should go and get it just for the "privilige" of buying something from them, so in the end they just sold it to me without either!

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Originally Posted by Biffta (Post 12018074)

In the Â´80s when we were first here in and in Madrid my wife was shopping for furniture and the store , Corte Ingles, would not accept a cheque signed by her. I had to go there and give them a cheque with my name on it. Spain has progressed.
As a "By the way" on the residence card , mine is green and issued by the police and had a long discussion with a woman in the Social Security office recently as she claimed it was out of date as the date on it was from 2012. Finally convinced her this was the issue date and that it is valid until 2022 . Also as it has no photograph you are obliged to carry your passport !

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Originally Posted by Loafing Along (Post 12018189)

Why only 'till then - they don't normally have an expiry date.

Exactly but in fact once you are permanent they are valid for ten years, same as a Spanish DNI or passport

Sorry, that's not correct. They are valid indefinitely and do not show an expiry date.

The only time you need to get a new one is if your personal details change such as change of address etc. After your initial certificate is 5 years old you can (optionally) apply for a new one which will confirm your right to permanent residence.

Sorry the NIE yes is permanent ( forgot we were on a NIE discussion as it has been mixed with residence registration ) OK I have done it twice but then had a tarjeta de residencia which was valid for ten years and when I got the new Green card you are right they are valid indefinitely unless I move again.