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carlalilley78 Apr 21st 2016 9:31 pm

NIE number
 
I saw a post about registering a child into a Spanish state school saying first thing to do is get an NIE number (go to the local police station, fill out the forms and hand in with passports and they give you one there and then) my question is we are going on holiday to Spain in August but not moving until April next year so can we do this in August so it's less to do when we move or will this need to be done in April when we move?

Also we are holidaying in playa flamenca in August but will be moving to Duquesa so can we go to police station in playa flamenca and do it or does it have to be local to where you're moving to?
Thanks

snikpoh Apr 21st 2016 9:51 pm

Re: NIE number
 

Originally Posted by carlalilley78 (Post 11929298)
I saw a post about registering a child into a Spanish state school saying first thing to do is get an NIE number (go to the local police station, fill out the forms and hand in with passports and they give you one there and then) my question is we are going on holiday to Spain in August but not moving until April next year so can we do this in August so it's less to do when we move or will this need to be done in April when we move?

Also we are holidaying in playa flamenca in August but will be moving to Duquesa so can we go to police station in playa flamenca and do it or does it have to be local to where you're moving to?
Thanks

NIE certificates only last 3 months so it's best done nearer the time you actually need it. Best also to use the extranjeria that's closest to where you will be living.

I hadn't heard that schools needed it specifically though. You will need to be on the padron and will also need medical checks so you will have to have health cover of some sort to do this.

You will also have to sign on the list of foreigners (aka 'residencia') at some point.

Liana12433 Apr 26th 2016 7:52 am

Re: NIE number
 
My eldest son did not need an NIE to attend his school. He was admitted with no problems in fact he has been there since the beginning of the term Jan some time and still has not received his card yet, he is Russian and my dependant. Neither was he on the padron at first, he is now and neither did he need a medical. Yes he and his mother are waiting for their foreigners residencia to come through. Our youngest son is a UK citizen and obviously there are no troubles there but we want him admitting to the same school this fall, and as the eldest is there should not be too much of a problem.

catsndogs Apr 26th 2016 6:30 pm

Re: NIE number
 
I thought your N.I.E number was for life. When did this change to 3mnths?

Rosemary Apr 26th 2016 7:11 pm

Re: NIE number
 

Originally Posted by catsndogs (Post 11933347)
I thought your N.I.E number was for life. When did this change to 3mnths?

The number is for life. I arranged mine in Jan 2004 and still use that certificate. However, there always seem to be changes happening and I have to admit that I have not kept abreast of any for the NIE.

Rosemary

Fred James Apr 26th 2016 8:09 pm

Re: NIE number
 
The number is for life, as Rosemary said. However, if you are required to produce evidence that you have an NIE for some official reason, you may be required to produce one dated no more than 3 months previously.

It's quite easy to get an up to date certificate should you need one.

snikpoh Apr 26th 2016 8:27 pm

Re: NIE number
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 11933394)
The number is for life, as Rosemary said. However, if you are required to produce evidence that you have an NIE for some official reason, you may be required to produce one dated no more than 3 months previously.

It's quite easy to get an up to date certificate should you need one.

See post #2 - I did say NIE certificates only last 3 months.

Rosemary Apr 26th 2016 8:27 pm

Re: NIE number
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 11933394)
The number is for life, as Rosemary said. However, if you are required to produce evidence that you have an NIE for some official reason, you may be required to produce one dated no more than 3 months previously.

It's quite easy to get an up to date certificate should you need one.

Thanks Fred for clarifying this. This week when I saw the notario he did not even look at the dates on my NIE certificate, passport, padron and residencia certificate as proof of ID.

Rosemary

griffitm1 Aug 1st 2016 5:57 am

Re: NIE number
 
Can anyone recommend a good company to help me apply for an NIE number? I had a terrible experience recently with www.nie4spainonline.com. Their website made it sound really easy but when it turned out that I would incur over £500 worth of legal costs in the UK, I decided not to go ahead. But they refused to give me my money back even though all they had done is sent me a very simple document which the notaries I spoke to said was wrong anyway. Could really do with someone who can handle the whole process and won't charge the earth, oh, and won't rip me off just because I paid in advance.

Rosemary Aug 1st 2016 6:56 am

Re: NIE number
 

Originally Posted by griffitm1 (Post 12017362)
Can anyone recommend a good company to help me apply for an NIE number? I had a terrible experience recently with www.nie4spainonline.com. Their website made it sound really easy but when it turned out that I would incur over £500 worth of legal costs in the UK, I decided not to go ahead. But they refused to give me my money back even though all they had done is sent me a very simple document which the notaries I spoke to said was wrong anyway. Could really do with someone who can handle the whole process and won't charge the earth, oh, and won't rip me off just because I paid in advance.

Hi and a warm welcome to the Spanish forum on BE. Myself and Fred James are the moderators for the Spanish forums whilst BEVS moderates Europe. Moderators are there to ensure that the site runs smoothly within the rules of BE. This is so that members gain the information that they are looking for and find their experiences on the forums to be friendly and worthwhile.

Problems and complaints should always be addressed to a moderator who will look into the matter and deal with it efficiently and fairly. Our members who post in the Spain Forums are usually friendly and helpful with a wealth of knowledge about the issues of living in Spain. I hope that you enjoy your time participating in the forums.

Please let me know if you need any further help.

Rosemary

snikpoh Aug 1st 2016 8:06 am

Re: NIE number
 

Originally Posted by griffitm1 (Post 12017362)
Can anyone recommend a good company to help me apply for an NIE number? I had a terrible experience recently with www.nie4spainonline.com. Their website made it sound really easy but when it turned out that I would incur over £500 worth of legal costs in the UK, I decided not to go ahead. But they refused to give me my money back even though all they had done is sent me a very simple document which the notaries I spoke to said was wrong anyway. Could really do with someone who can handle the whole process and won't charge the earth, oh, and won't rip me off just because I paid in advance.

It IS really easy to get an NIE and can NOT cost you anything in UK.

Don't know what you were sent but it's form EX15 for an NIE - you don't need to go anywhere near a notary either!

However, if you mean signing on the list of foreigners (aka 'residencia'), then that is different and should NOT be confused with getting an NIE.


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Loafing Along Aug 1st 2016 8:08 am

Re: NIE number
 
Your NIE is for life, do not confuse registering on the Padron which if you need to prove it the certificate must be less than three months old.Generally getting a NIE is a much quicker process than getting a Tarjeta de Residencia.
I am certain you cannot get one unless you are a resident so you cannot do it while you are on holiday.Anyhow during your first three months you are really still a tourist.
The police charge you about Euro 10.- to do it so go straight there with the right paperwork. Not all police stations do it, they need a "Foreigners Department", may end up heading into Marbella if you settle in Duquesa as it is Malaga province.
Stick this in Google translator Página oficial de la DGP-Documentación

Fred James Aug 1st 2016 10:10 am

Re: NIE number
 
You can get an NIE as a non resident. It is required for any major financial transaction, such as buying a house as a non resident.

There is no longer any such thing as a Tarjeta de Residencia unless you are a non EU family member of an EU citizen.

Loafing Along Aug 1st 2016 10:34 am

Re: NIE number
 
Yes if you are buying a house or apartment you will need one and most lawyers will arrange it quite easily as part of the transaction as you cannot do the transaction without one. I think you cannot even open a bank account unless you have one.

Loafing Along Aug 1st 2016 10:48 am

Re: NIE number
 
Sorry Fred but you should double check.....For Tarjeta de Residencia read " Obliged to register " at the Dept of Foreigners in the district where they live if there for longer than three months. Also family members will require a Tarjeta de Residencia . If they are not working provide information on the funds available to sustain themselves in Spain as well as fill out the right forms.
All the info is on the official Police site - they administer the process
Página oficial de la DGP-Documentación

Los interesados estarán obligados a solicitar personalmente ante la Oficina de Extranjeros de la provincia donde pretendan permanecer o fijar su residencia o, en su defecto, ante la Comisaría de Policía correspondiente, su inscripción en el Registro Central de Extranjero
For the family :
La solicitud de la tarjeta de residencia de familiar de ciudadano de la Unión deberá presentarse en el plazo de tres meses desde la fecha de entrada en España, ante la Oficina de Extranjeros de la provincia donde el interesado pretenda permanecer o fijar su residencia o, en su defecto, ante la Comisaría de Policía correspondiente.


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