t2uds

Hi all. For those of you who dont know. We relocated to sunny Santa Agnes (Barelona) with the wife's company and have been here an enjoyable month now. The company employed a relocation company to help ease us in and arrange all the things we have to get sorted as newbie Catalans. So we've just trusted them to know how to make everything all official & proper. Sadly though today we've hit a bit of a wall. My wife has private healthcare organised by the company and got her NIE a breeze. Mine has been a bit of a mare so far. We tried to add me on the private scheme, but because I have a bugger of a small rice crispie sized kidney stone, they said no chance. So, no problem Im told by the Relocation bods. They'll just pop me down as a dependent to the fully paid up wife. So, our first visit to the rozzers to try and get my NIE (Barcelona central) didnt go as planned. Apparently my wedding cert wasnt enough of a wedding cert. They want it dated within 3 months. The same for the baby daughter. Her birth cert wasnt good enough either. I was told to get another official copy of each dated within 3 months. (Which as we got married in Hawaii caused us no end of grief to sort ) Roll fwd to today and our second visits for both the NIE and Healthcare. The considerably grumpy policeman type spoke with our relocation bod. And then it was translated back to me that I couldnt get my NIE without being registered for public healthcare. So off we went to get that done.....where I was then told I couldnt register for public healthcare without my NIE I asked what they suggest we do, and they just told us to write a letter to complain....!? Not sure if Im getting duff advice, a duff agent, or duff translation. But if I cant get one without the other..or the other without the one....I feel like Im in a catch 22 chicken & egg anti male dependent twilight zone So as my relocation bod drives off back to the office convinced she's doing everything right and she cant understand why we cant be added as dependents....I thought Id ask here for a second (third, fourth, fifth etc) opinion. Cheers all. Mike

Neptuno

Welcome to Spain!
Look at Spanish bureaucracy on YouTube - it's funny, because it's true!
I think Larryzx could help you

t2uds

The Intereconomia one....Ive just watched it. Haha. Oh god....doesn't bode well.

lynnxa

you can get a NIE without healthcare - what you can't do is register as resident

go back with the correct form already completed - the EX15 - you DON'T tell them that you are living here - say you need it for a non-resident bank account if they ask

once you have the NIE then you can be registered as your wife's dependents & get Social Security numbers - though you will need officially translated copies of the birth & wedding certs

once you have the SS numbers you can register for public healthcare & then register as resident

t2uds

Perfect. Bob on.

t2uds

I cant have this cock up a third time with the local rozzers. Will they go as far as ask what I need a non resident bank account for? If so whats the most valid reason to have one which is least likely for me to fail again? Ta

snikpoh

You can have a non-resident account for a number of reasons but the most likely is to pay bills for a holiday property that you own.

lynnxa

you could just say that you are planning to move here later in the year & want to start putting money into an account in advance of your move

t2uds

Many thanks all. Very much appreciated.

t2uds

I have another appointment booked for the morning with the local Police. But Ive noticed a few of the sites say I need to take this with me:

"Written justification of why you need the NIE (issued by an accountant, a notary, a bank manager, an insurance agent a future employer, etc.)"

Its never ending. How do I get around that mallarky then....

lynnxa

everyone I know has just taken the completed EX15 form & their passport - paid the money & been told when to return to collect the NIE

no mallarky at all

alancorner

If you do not have a Spanish address yet do you put your present address on the form EX15

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t2uds

Well it seems theyre a bit more of the arsey variety up here in my end of Catalonia Land.

We got it..just.

Thankfully we had the helper from the relocation agency as we were nearly sent packing a third time!? I think it made a difference having a bona fide Catalan rather than some English native tongue type speaking Spanish to them. She had a tough time by all accounts, I was having flashbacks to that youtube vid mentioned above. Afterwards while we waited in the square, she went to make the payment at the bank. When she returned we asked if it went ok....and she burst into tears!? Apparently no one would take the payment because it was after 1030? And some chap was especially vile to her....which kicked off the tears on her return. Think it all built up a bit too much for her. Im not the best when someone cries anyway. Especially when Im trying to wrestle my toddler from trying to kill a pigeon.
But eitherway. She does it for a living. And she still cried.

Thanks for the heads up on the temp NIE. One thing off my headache list. Cheers all.

Rosemary

You will be requesting it as if you are temporary but the NIE is not temporary. once you have the number it is yours for life.

Rosemary