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Can anyone tell me what supporting documents you need to get an n I E number and how difficult it is. Some websites recommend using a solicitor? Or is it just a con to get money out of people.:

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A long time ago but from memory we just walked into a national police station with our passports and bank account number (spanish) and it was done while we waited. Some police stations have a ticket system, you turn up early grab a ticket and wait until your number comes up. We used the one at Orihuela, emplloyee of the agency chatted to the officer on the door, another agent took us to set up a bank account when we returned we were ushered straight in!

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Thanks bri and Katee

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Don't be confused between NIE and getting your 'certificate of registration' (aka - residencia).

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Good point. You need your NIE to get your residencia. If it´s your NIE you want then passport and 2 photos should surfice. Take your Spanish bank account though but I don´t think we needed it. From memory, they give you a ticket to go to a bank nearby where you pay the fee and then go back to get your NIE.

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No, you don't need an NIE to sign on the register of foreigners - when you do that they give you an NIE.

Signing on the register does not give you "residencia" - it just gives you the right to stay for more than 90 days. You become a resident when you stay for more than 183 days in one year and start paying taxes.

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Sorry Fred, I got that wrong.

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What is the difference between becoming a resident and not being a resident?

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As a resident, you must make a (Spanish) tax declaration of all world-wide income.

It's not a matter of choice - once you are here for more than 183 days in a calendar year (need not be consecutive days), then you are tax resident.

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Thanks snikpoh how is it done? Is it like a self assessment tax or do you need an accountant

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Same as in UK - you can either do it yourself or employ someone to do it for you. Another option here is that you can go along to the tax office and they will do it with you.

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I live in uk but own a property in Spain. I was issued with an NIE in 2010. I have read somewhere that NIE's either never have to be renewed, have to be renewed every 5 years, have to be renewed every 3 months, all depending on when they were originaly issued. I would be grateful for any clarification on this. Bit confused over padron ( which I think is renewable every 2 years but only seems to be valid for 3 months) and residencia, which some say is with you for ever and some say has to be renewed every 5 years as well. Sorry for so many questions - probably should have expanded to 3 separate posts

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NIE is issued for life. It does not have to be renewed. If you require an NIE certificate, then the people asking for it may require a copy that has been recently issued i.e. less than 90 days ago.

Padron is not regularly renewed unless you are not an EU citizen. Some town halls have recently asked people to renew, but this is not normal and should only happen under very unusual circumstances. I have not renewed mine for 12 years and that was only becuase I changed my address. Non residents should not be on the padron - it is for full time residents only - whatever the town hall might say! Padron certificates are available on request, sometimes for a small fee, and these may also be required to be less than 3 months old.

If you are a full time resident, then you will have signed on the foreigners registry and been given the right to reside for more than 90 days. This form does not need renewing unless your personal details/address etc. change.

However, after 5 years you are entitled to the right of permanent residency and you can choose to renew your registration and you will get a nearly identical piece of paper/card which specifically states that you have the right of permanent residency.

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Many thanks, Fred for clearing everything up.

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Hi all,
Can anyone tell me how much it costs to get a NIE number, I have a quote from a lawyer, who can do it for us, it seems a bit expensive, any help would be appreciated.
Dave.

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€10.20 last time I checked.

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Thanks Fred,

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A big difference to what a lawyer charges

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I got my NIE about a year ago, along with a certificate valid for 3 months. I have used the certificate a couple of times after it's 3 month validity had expired, but it didn't seem to matter. Once was to get my digital certificate at Hacienda.

So you may never need to get a new certificate. As Fred says, the number itself does not expire.

- Eric S.

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Hi everyone is there a way to link my nie with my ss number online rather than my passport I start my new job on Monday and they requested this and I don't fancy queing ha

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Hi and a warm welcome to the Spanish forum on BE. Myself and Fred James are the moderators for the Spanish forums whilst BEVS moderates Europe. Moderators are there to ensure that the site runs smoothly within the rules of BE. This is so that members gain the information that they are looking for and find their experiences on the forums to be friendly and worthwhile.

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Sorry but this doesn't make any sense to me.

When you got your SS number, you will have had to give your NIE - so they are already linked.

Your passport doesn't really come into the equation.

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No they ask if you want to link it with your passport number or your nie number

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Never heard that before - makes little sense really.

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NIE's are normally linked to passport numbers when you apply for them - presumably that's why they gave the option.

There is always a problem linking to a passport number because when you renew your passport, you get a new number - that confuses the hell out of the Spanish system if they do any cross checks in the future.

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I'll second Fred's comment early on we had linked something to the passport and just recently had some official business to do and produced our new passport to the bemusement of the official since the number was not correct so we went home to collector old passport with the corner cut off. They accepted that and disregarded the new one (much to complicated). In Spain your NIE IS FOR LIFE AND A SPANISH PASSPORT NUMBER NEVER CHANGES so why should it not be the same everywhere is their attitude. That makes a lot of sense!

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Yes I understand that part however! My employer in Barcelona have stated that to be payed and taxed my ss number must be linked to my nie number rather than my British passport number so the question I am asking is there possibility of doing the change online? Rather than going to the social?

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I doubt that it is possible and if it was it would require you to have a digital certificate, which, if you haven't already got one, will take much more effort to get than going to the INSS office.

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Well it looks like a trip there first thing in the morning then ha :( thank you anyway!

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I got a job offered and came to Spain went with my employer to the local Federal police station had to have a copy of the indefino contract passport etc and it was done there and then and there had to be a payment of about 10 euros into a certain bank account. We then went to the social and got registered there and am now waiting for my health card to show up. I did not have to supply a bank account because I guess because of my work contract, hope this helps