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Dick Dasterdly Sep 13th 2012 8:17 pm

Much ado about nothing?
 
......or big deal ?


http://www.metro.co.uk/news/911907-k...nch-closer-mag


Seems to be the major news story of the day so maybe it's a good sign that no seriously bad news is around at present.

jimenato Sep 13th 2012 9:12 pm

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Provided the royals do what they should do and maintain a dignified silence - not one comment - it is pretty much a non-story.

If they comment or react in any way it will be much bigger news than it should be.

Dick Dasterdly Sep 13th 2012 10:02 pm

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Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 10280476)
Provided the royals do what they should do and maintain a dignified silence - not one comment - it is pretty much a non-story.

If they comment or react in any way it will be much bigger news than it should be.

That's exactly the problem.

Apparently they've made a mountain out of a molehill, ...or should that be 2 molehills ? :rofl:

Otherwise it might have been passed off fairly quietly, as according to the reports I've seen the photos are rubbish and not very clear, taken from a long distance away with a long distance lens.
Still wouldn't mind a peek myself though. ;)

HBG Sep 13th 2012 10:24 pm

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Does nudity not make us all equal? On my coffee round earlier I came across a former UK bank manager, at regional level, an important man in his day. He's a nice guy but doesn't look very important in daft shorts, an inappropriate vest, leading an ugly rescue dog around.

I suppose if Prince Charles sat there dressed in the same way, he wouldn't look like the future King either.

He wouldn't need an ugly rescue dog either, he would be leading his own horse around, but if she was nude it would clear my little cafe, that's for sure.

Beaverstate Sep 13th 2012 10:27 pm

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Originally Posted by HBG (Post 10280552)
Does nudity not make us all equal? On my coffee round earlier I came across a former UK bank manager, at regional level, an important man in his day. He's a nice guy but doesn't look very important in daft shorts, an inappropriate vest, leading an ugly rescue dog around.

I suppose if Prince Charles sat there dressed in the same way, he wouldn't look like the future King either.

He wouldn't need an ugly rescue dog either, he would be leading his own horse around, but if she was nude it would clear my little cafe, that's for sure.

Rescue dogs are the best. No excessive in breeding. My dog is half border collie and half opportunist.:D

tommy.irene Sep 13th 2012 10:28 pm

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Originally Posted by HBG (Post 10280552)
Does nudity not make us all equal? On my coffee round earlier I came across a former UK bank manager, at regional level, an important man in his day. He's a nice guy but doesn't look very important in daft shorts, an inappropriate vest, leading an ugly rescue dog around.

I suppose if Prince Charles sat there dressed in the same way, he wouldn't look like the future King either.

He wouldn't need an ugly rescue dog either, he would be leading his own horse around, but if she was nude it would clear my little cafe, that's for sure.

Why have an ugly dog... when you have an ugly wife..

Beaverstate Sep 13th 2012 10:30 pm

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Originally Posted by tommy.irene (Post 10280562)
Why have an ugly dog... when you have an ugly wife..

I kept the dog.:D

HBG Sep 13th 2012 10:38 pm

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Christ, can you imagine this lot topless? It's enough to make you take up reading the Koran.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...ur-stakes.html

Pocaloca Sep 13th 2012 10:43 pm

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I suppose they are all the more upset because it reminds them of the role of the paparazzi in Diana's death. It's pretty sick really, this sort of voyeurism. I hope they do sue the French magazine.

Dick Dasterdly Sep 13th 2012 11:19 pm

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Originally Posted by HBG (Post 10280583)
Christ, can you imagine this lot topless? It's enough to make you take up reading the Koran.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...ur-stakes.html

Essex girls moved up North, have they ?

Though I must admit its a bit difficult to recognise them all with their clothes on.:cool:

HBG Sep 13th 2012 11:45 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10280669)
Essex girls moved up North, have they ?

Though I must admit its a bit difficult to recognise them all with their clothes on.:cool:

Maybe you're right, but I have another theory. They say that those giant gas works at Doncaster are not harmful to the local population, but those picture tend to suggest otherwise.

In one picture you can clearly see that the young lady has lost her teeth at far to early an age. They should get Green Peace up there to have a closer look.

Dick Dasterdly Sep 13th 2012 11:57 pm

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Originally Posted by HBG (Post 10280712)
Maybe you're right, but I have another theory. They say that those giant gas works at Doncaster are not harmful to the local population, but those picture tend to suggest otherwise.

In one picture you can clearly see that the young lady has lost her teeth at far to early an age. They should get Green Peace up there to have a closer look.

Guys in Doncaster don't concern themselves much with such trivialities,...... though in some situations it can be looked upon as a plus factor. ;)

Dick Dasterdly Sep 14th 2012 4:40 am

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I see Will and Kate have begun legal proceedings against the French Magazine, though what purpose it will serve eludes me somewhat.

For a start they are simply prolonging their own distress.

Also damages awarded in French Courts are not on anything like the same scale as those in the US and UK.

It will simply be an opportunity for the media in general to make more money out of the affair whilst dragging it out even further and will be unlikely to deter foreign magazines from doing the same again should the opportunity arise.

jackytoo Sep 14th 2012 4:53 am

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Málaga Sur was showing Kates nipple this morning on the main webpage...wonder if they will get sued too:lol:

Dick Dasterdly Sep 14th 2012 11:05 am

Re: Much ado about nothing?
 
Having had a shufty through the photos I must say she looks better with all her clothes on.
Far to skinny for my liking anyway. :thumbdown:

jackytoo Sep 14th 2012 8:50 pm

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She has a boyish figure when undressed, no hips.

Dick Dasterdly Sep 14th 2012 9:05 pm

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Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 10281965)
She has a boyish figure when undressed, no hips.

Yeh, disappointing.
When did you see her stripped off anyway ? :confused: ;)

jackytoo Sep 14th 2012 9:34 pm

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Yesterday:lol:

jimenato Sep 14th 2012 9:52 pm

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They should have listened to me and just shut up.

Domino Sep 14th 2012 10:15 pm

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they had Penny Junor on Radio 4 yesterday and she was saying that William is strong on his own privacy, although he accepts there has to be some interest as he is heir to the throne (while we still have one). But he can be like a rabid dog when it comes to the privacy of his wife, her family and his friends, feeling they shouldnt be subjected to such intrusion

as the chateau is owned by David Linley and stands in 640 acres of woodland how much closer can someone get.?
considering the threats that have been made against Harry whilst in Afghanistan surely shooting William or his wife would have as many brownie points in the mad mad islamic world.......

Rambling Rose Sep 15th 2012 12:24 am

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The publication concerned have presumably made a judgement call that if they are sued and have to pay damages the amount they have to pay will be less than the money made from additional sales.

It does all seem like a storm in a D cup. (Or less as she's so skinny) Presumably she could be seen by hotel and security staff and its not that unusual for young women to sunbathe topless these day.

The Royals may have a pact with the British press (which gives access when they want to and an agreement not to publish when they don't) but that is never going to work with the foreign press. William may have a thing about it because of his mother but it comes with the territory and there's not that much he can do about it - unless he can abdicate in advance and give up his royal status.

Otherwise, if they don't want to be seen without their clothes on they should keep them on except when they are 100% certain they can't be seen. Just like any other celebrity.

Dick Dasterdly Sep 15th 2012 12:27 am

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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10282035)
considering the threats that have been made against Harry whilst in Afghanistan surely shooting William or his wife would have as many brownie points in the mad mad islamic world.......

Many more I would have thought.

Come to think of it, it could probably just as easily have been a sniper with telescopic sights on a hi powered rifle. :eek:

Maybe those photos could be a timely warning to brush up on security.

nogard Sep 15th 2012 1:36 am

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10281561)
Having had a shufty through the photos I must say she looks better with all her clothes on.
Far to skinny for my liking anyway. :thumbdown:

Bang on mate; a stick insect with tits.:eek:

tommy.irene Sep 15th 2012 1:44 am

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....If they can take a photo..then they can shoot you from the same distance.

johnnyone Sep 15th 2012 1:48 am

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Originally Posted by Rambling Rose (Post 10282141)

Otherwise, if they don't want to be seen without their clothes on they should keep them on except when they are 100% certain they can't be seen.

They are entitled to their privacy without having to worry about a photographer with a long range lens taking pictures. What next photographs taken from satellites?
If my privacy was breached I would be outraged.
Put yourself in their position. How would you feel if you were photographed without your permission at a private location whether you had clothes on or not and then the photographs are published around the world.
I just do not see how you can imply it is their own fault.

stuboy Sep 15th 2012 2:21 am

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Originally Posted by Rambling Rose (Post 10282141)
The publication concerned have presumably made a judgement call that if they are sued and have to pay damages the amount they have to pay will be less than the money made from additional sales.

It does all seem like a storm in a D cup. (Or less as she's so skinny) Presumably she could be seen by hotel and security staff and its not that unusual for young women to sunbathe topless these day.

The Royals may have a pact with the British press (which gives access when they want to and an agreement not to publish when they don't) but that is never going to work with the foreign press. William may have a thing about it because of his mother but it comes with the territory and there's not that much he can do about it - unless he can abdicate in advance and give up his royal status.

Otherwise, if they don't want to be seen without their clothes on they should keep them on except when they are 100% certain they can't be seen. Just like any other celebrity.

I agree, there must have been staff around the chateau, maids, cleaners, security,cooks etc, anyone of these could possibly have seen her and I personally wouldn't risk it in these circumstances. Keeping your bra on is not too high a price to pay for such a priveleged life.

tommy.irene Sep 15th 2012 5:55 am

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Look hard at this photo..what do you see.

Dick Dasterdly Sep 15th 2012 5:58 am

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Looks like Harry's lost his pants again. :blink:

tommy.irene Sep 15th 2012 6:13 am

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10282452)
Looks like Harry's lost his pants again. :blink:

Goodone Dick..now try this one..

Dick Dasterdly Sep 15th 2012 7:31 am

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They don't look real to me, unless they're a pair of those silicone jobs.

Heard another report that other photos show Kate enjoying a ciggy,(or a spliff),not that I've anything against it, of course. ;) :D

tommy.irene Sep 15th 2012 7:47 am

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I should put this on the JOKE thread............................................ ............Violent protests outside French Embassies after Middleton pictures published




The French Embassy in South Kensington was in flames last night after being overrun by English protesters unhappy with the treatment of Kate Middleton, a public figure venerated locally as a saint.



Burning French flags and effigies of President François Hollande, protesters chanted ‘There is no Queen but Elizabeth’ and threw bricks through the windows of nearby crêperies and charcuteries.



The monarchists were incensed by pictures that had appeared in the French magazine ‘Closeur’ which defamed the Duchess, revered by many in the UK as ‘such a nice girl’.



Said one protester, ‘The French government claims it can’t stop the publication of the pictures because of ‘freedom of speech’, when it’s clear that the whole thing’s a perfidious plot to desecrate the ancient and outmoded system of beliefs that we English hold dear.’ He then continued stamping on an assortment of croissants and warm patisseries, while others poured a rather special 1990 Chateau Margaux down the drain.



There have also been reports of demonstrations outside French missions in other monarchist nations, including Australia, Canada, New Zealand and The Solomon Islands.



The protests began peacefully, but around nightfall a number of extremist monarchists reportedly joined the fray. Armed with hundreds of years of tradition and a sense of fair play, they set about breaching the embassy’s defences. Gendarmes on duty inside the building initially repelled those attempting to scale the walls, but it wasn’t long before they surrendered.



http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2012/09/1...res-published/

Dick Dasterdly Sep 15th 2012 10:08 am

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That'll show them frog eating, snail eating, sons of bitches ! :rofl:

Italians and Irish are next on the hit list apparently, according to latest reports. :cool:

dunmovin Sep 15th 2012 8:07 pm

Re: Much ado about nothing?
 

Originally Posted by HBG (Post 10280583)
Christ, can you imagine this lot topless? It's enough to make you take up reading the Koran.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...ur-stakes.html

Will you Please not do that again....I just had breakfast, looked at the link and nearly had it reappear... there is only one thing to be said there.... looking at that lot...can you find a better excuse for condoms:o:o

Dick Dasterdly Sep 15th 2012 8:37 pm

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More shocking revelations to come apparently, from the French magazine I mean, ........not HBG.


.......there again,on second thoughts I wouldn't rule that out either. :blink:

Rambling Rose Sep 15th 2012 8:45 pm

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Originally Posted by johnnyone (Post 10282198)
They are entitled to their privacy without having to worry about a photographer with a long range lens taking pictures. What next photographs taken from satellites?
If my privacy was breached I would be outraged.
Put yourself in their position. How would you feel if you were photographed without your permission at a private location whether you had clothes on or not and then the photographs are published around the world.
I just do not see how you can imply it is their own fault.

I'm not a celebrity though. Sadly what William and Kate need to realise is that nowhere is private because of who they are. They would like to be considered ordinary people but they are not. If they were no-one would be interested in the pictures.

Yesterday an Irish paper said that outside the UK they were just like 'any other celebrity'. In the UK being royal apparently gives them some kind of status and no UK publication would print the pictures but outside the UK they are fair game. So they need to learn fast that if they don't want to be photographed doing something they had better not do it. Otherwise they are going to have a miserable future.

I'm not saying I agree with this it's just how things are. Personally I think this is one of the problems of having a Monarchy. They may be priviledged in some senses but its a rotten life I wouldn't wish on anyone. Time it was abolished.

Dick Dasterdly Sep 15th 2012 9:03 pm

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Originally Posted by Rambling Rose (Post 10283134)
I'm not a celebrity though. Sadly what William and Kate need to realise is that nowhere is private because of who they are. They would like to be considered ordinary people but they are not. If they were no-one would be interested in the pictures.

Yesterday an Irish paper said that outside the UK they were just like 'any other celebrity'. In the UK being royal apparently gives them some kind of status and no UK publication would print the pictures but outside the UK they are fair game. So they need to learn fast that if they don't want to be photographed doing something they had better not do it. Otherwise they are going to have a miserable future.

I'm not saying I agree with this it's just how things are. Personally I think this is one of the problems of having a Monarchy. They may be priviledged in some senses but its a rotten life I wouldn't wish on anyone. Time it was abolished.

I'd agree with most of that apart from the last sentence.
I imagine there's many millions who would be happy to swap places with them.
It's mainly a matter of common sense.
Liz has got by for all these years without any major problems.

Rambling Rose Sep 15th 2012 9:27 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10283170)
I'd agree with most of that apart from the last sentence.
I imagine there's many millions who would be happy to swap places with them.
It's mainly a matter of common sense.
Liz has got by for all these years without any major problems.

I expect you are right - millions would be happy to swap but if they could they might be surprised at the downside of the so called priviledged life. You see it all the time with people who become famous and/or rich (lottery winners). I wonder how many of them are genuinely happy.

Liz has done well but she's from a different era when 'doing your duty' was more the norm than it is today. Even I admire the way she's soldiered on but to me her life looks mindnumbingly boring. At least they are passing more of the 'duties' down the line to Charles and Co. but if she was anyone elses granny she would have earned putting her feet up. Instead she has to stand for hours in the pouring rain as a 'celebration' of 60 years of meeting people she isn't interested in* and going to endless formal banquets. No wonder she is said to eat her breakfast out of tupperware!

* OK - she's probably interested in some of them but half the time it looks like she doesn't even know who they are.

johnnyone Sep 15th 2012 9:50 pm

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Originally Posted by Rambling Rose (Post 10283134)
I'm not a celebrity though.

So what? So you are entitled to your privacy but celebrities (or famous people} are not?
What if Nelson Mandela or a similar icon was photographed in an unflattering way (eg being fed) in private and those photographs were published.
Is that also OK?

Dick Dasterdly Sep 16th 2012 12:12 am

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Originally Posted by Rambling Rose (Post 10283214)
I expect you are right - millions would be happy to swap but if they could they might be surprised at the downside of the so called priviledged life. You see it all the time with people who become famous and/or rich (lottery winners). I wonder how many of them are genuinely happy.

Liz has done well but she's from a different era when 'doing your duty' was more the norm than it is today. Even I admire the way she's soldiered on but to me her life looks mindnumbingly boring. At least they are passing more of the 'duties' down the line to Charles and Co. but if she was anyone elses granny she would have earned putting her feet up. Instead she has to stand for hours in the pouring rain as a 'celebration' of 60 years of meeting people she isn't interested in* and going to endless formal banquets. No wonder she is said to eat her breakfast out of tupperware!

* OK - she's probably interested in some of them but half the time it looks like she doesn't even know who they are.

Don't suppose I would either at her age and likewise probably couldn't care less.

No denying she's done fairly well over the years, but I don't think the Royals lifestyle is the hell that some make it out to be.
Vague rumours have seeped out over the years that they're not so straight laced in their private lives as many think.
The vast majority of their time is their own to do as they please in private and no worries about what it cost.
Even on official functions and trips it's normally only a few hours a day for a short spell only and they are pretty well wet nursed for the rest of the time.

No doubt her and old Phil are finding it a bit of a struggle now but it's only to be expected.
Just hope she lasts long enough to hand the job on to Will, rather than that stuffed suit goon Charlie, who probably belongs on another planet.

agoreira Sep 16th 2012 1:42 am

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10283170)
I imagine there's many millions who would be happy to swap places with them.
It's mainly a matter of common sense.

Not in a million years would I want their lifestyle, and I can't imagine that many would. Talk about a poisoned chalice, what on earth is there of their lifestyle to be envied? You or I can pop down the pub to relax, have a few extra marital affairs if we are lucky enough, go to Africa with our mistress and shoot a few elephants, there's a million things we can do and nobody would turn a hair. Well, maybe the wife! We won't have thousands of camera recording our every move, we are free to go where we like when we want, totally unhindered. We can retire at 60 odd, put our feet up, I think Phil did about 300 odd gigs last year, he's 91, no way would I want to swap with him.


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