MSF Frequency Controlled Clock
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MSF Frequency Controlled Clock
I find that clocks in the house are all telling me lies with the time they show, even my watch has started to drift
So have decided to invest in a Radio Frequency Controlled clock - not that expensive, from around £20.00
The UK standard is from the MSF transmitter which operates at 60khz and to some extent follows the curvature of the earth, so isn't a line of site thing.
But not sure it can be picked up this far south considering the mountains in the way twixt UK and Granada.
Has anyone had experience in using these in the Granada Province (or other parts of Southern Spain) ??
Or have you had to use a Standard Transmission from another country ??
Thanks
So have decided to invest in a Radio Frequency Controlled clock - not that expensive, from around £20.00
The UK standard is from the MSF transmitter which operates at 60khz and to some extent follows the curvature of the earth, so isn't a line of site thing.
But not sure it can be picked up this far south considering the mountains in the way twixt UK and Granada.
Has anyone had experience in using these in the Granada Province (or other parts of Southern Spain) ??
Or have you had to use a Standard Transmission from another country ??
Thanks
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Re: MSF Frequency Controlled Clock
I find that clocks in the house are all telling me lies with the time they show, even my watch has started to drift
So have decided to invest in a Radio Frequency Controlled clock - not that expensive, from around £20.00
The UK standard is from the MSF transmitter which operates at 60khz and to some extent follows the curvature of the earth, so isn't a line of site thing.
But not sure it can be picked up this far south considering the mountains in the way twixt UK and Granada.
Has anyone had experience in using these in the Granada Province (or other parts of Southern Spain) ??
Or have you had to use a Standard Transmission from another country ??
Thanks
So have decided to invest in a Radio Frequency Controlled clock - not that expensive, from around £20.00
The UK standard is from the MSF transmitter which operates at 60khz and to some extent follows the curvature of the earth, so isn't a line of site thing.
But not sure it can be picked up this far south considering the mountains in the way twixt UK and Granada.
Has anyone had experience in using these in the Granada Province (or other parts of Southern Spain) ??
Or have you had to use a Standard Transmission from another country ??
Thanks
But doing it that way will always tell the wrong time, surely, as it is one hour behind us here in Spain.
Where can one get such a clock for Spain - so that it's always correct?
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Re: MSF Frequency Controlled Clock
If you use a frequency based in the UK are they not an hour behind mainland Europe? If so would that not make your clock tell the incorrect time?
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Re: MSF Frequency Controlled Clock
I find that clocks in the house are all telling me lies with the time they show, even my watch has started to drift
So have decided to invest in a Radio Frequency Controlled clock - not that expensive, from around £20.00
The UK standard is from the MSF transmitter which operates at 60khz and to some extent follows the curvature of the earth, so isn't a line of site thing.
But not sure it can be picked up this far south considering the mountains in the way twixt UK and Granada.
Has anyone had experience in using these in the Granada Province (or other parts of Southern Spain) ??
Or have you had to use a Standard Transmission from another country ??
Thanks
So have decided to invest in a Radio Frequency Controlled clock - not that expensive, from around £20.00
The UK standard is from the MSF transmitter which operates at 60khz and to some extent follows the curvature of the earth, so isn't a line of site thing.
But not sure it can be picked up this far south considering the mountains in the way twixt UK and Granada.
Has anyone had experience in using these in the Granada Province (or other parts of Southern Spain) ??
Or have you had to use a Standard Transmission from another country ??
Thanks
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Re: MSF Frequency Controlled Clock
Lidl sell them occasionally from Germany,so they are on CET
I have a couple down here in Gib.
If the battery is a little on the low side they do amazing feats.
I have a couple down here in Gib.
If the battery is a little on the low side they do amazing feats.
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Re: MSF Frequency Controlled Clock
We bought a couple of these clocks in the UK (Aldi specials) to bring to Spain. In Spain, one picks up the German signal but the other refuses to recognise anything other than the UK signal most of the time. But occasionally it finds the German signal and synchs with that. And occasionally the other one finds the UK signal and goes with that. So we're never sure of the real time. Which has rather defeated the whole exercise which was to have accurate (Spanish) time. You can't disable the radio synch on these clocks so we've consigned them to a drawer.
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Re: MSF Frequency Controlled Clock
Hi
Back in 2003, I brought my Rugby controlled clock to Spain and found it didn´t work. Since then I´ve bought two Radio Controlled clocks here in Spain and think they´re wonderful at least twice a year as they change to the correct time automatically
Davexf
Back in 2003, I brought my Rugby controlled clock to Spain and found it didn´t work. Since then I´ve bought two Radio Controlled clocks here in Spain and think they´re wonderful at least twice a year as they change to the correct time automatically
Davexf
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Re: MSF Frequency Controlled Clock
Thanks for the input guys - for those who have expressed doubt as to my knowledge of these things just re-read the carefull wording of my original post.
So it would appear that an MSF at 60khz is out of the question, which is what I thought as I cannot receive BBC on long wave (199khz) which has a similar propagation path. This must be due to the mountains of the Spanish mainland as I used to listen to BBC (lw) from up to 4 days out of Gib from the South during a radio room night shift on the haul from Cape Town...
So will have to look into this more closely as the German transmitter (DCF77 on 77khz) is surely subject to the same problems. And I have seen a clock that claims to operate at 433mhz - and really don't think that is appropriate if the transmitter is anywhere much beyond line of site.
will advise my findings
rgds
So it would appear that an MSF at 60khz is out of the question, which is what I thought as I cannot receive BBC on long wave (199khz) which has a similar propagation path. This must be due to the mountains of the Spanish mainland as I used to listen to BBC (lw) from up to 4 days out of Gib from the South during a radio room night shift on the haul from Cape Town...
So will have to look into this more closely as the German transmitter (DCF77 on 77khz) is surely subject to the same problems. And I have seen a clock that claims to operate at 433mhz - and really don't think that is appropriate if the transmitter is anywhere much beyond line of site.
will advise my findings
rgds
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Re: MSF Frequency Controlled Clock
Of course, if you only want an accurate reference time, then your PC is probably the best bet.
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Re: MSF Frequency Controlled Clock
Chill out folks. What is so important that a couple of minutes makes a difference