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georgiesgirl79 Jan 4th 2012 10:21 am

Moving to Gibraltar.........
 
Any expats that can help??
Basically our situation is this... Hubby has family out there, his Grandad is Gibitarian, they lived out there for a few years when he was little as his Dad was in the Navy and stationed there. Four years ago his Mum moved out there and now works for the MOD, last July his elder brother and son moved out there to live with his girlfriend, they are now expecting a little one :)
We have often said we'd emigrate, and Gibraltar is always coming up as he has such fond memories of his time there, he can get work as a security guard with a firm his brother runs and also as a construction worker, his brother has also said that I would find work easily as I used to run a pub (which I don't really want to do again) but also they are desperate for Admins out there, which I was doing for 12yrs, I am a Teaching Assistant also.
Anyway........ my hubby is going out next week to start looking for a house, he has a job lined up with his brother to get some income coming in while looking for more permanent work and to start saving.
We have 4 children, aged 10,8, 4 and 2. Although the 8yo unfortunately won't be coming with us as much as we want her too :(
I need help looking for schools and a house- what did you do and how easy was it???????
Many thanks
Shelley x:fingerscrossed::D:confused:

georgiesgirl79 Jan 4th 2012 10:55 am

Re: Moving to Gibraltar.........
 
Anyone? Any info would be appreciated x

Mitzyboy Jan 4th 2012 11:23 am

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Originally Posted by georgiesgirl79 (Post 9821377)
Anyone? Any info would be appreciated x

It's 1.25 in the morning in Spain at the moment ...... you have to be patient :);)

jimenato Jan 4th 2012 9:07 pm

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Hi georgiesgirl79

The good thing is that your OH has some work. The important decisions you have to make are where to live and where the children go to school. Most expat workers in Gib live in Spain and commute in and out every day - I believe that housing in Gib is expensive and you would need quite a big place for your family. The school choices are; school in Gib, Spanish school in Spain or International school in Spain. I know little of this as I have no kids, but I expect someone will be along soon who knows more.

Regards.

EllisG Jan 4th 2012 9:13 pm

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Originally Posted by georgiesgirl79 (Post 9821377)
Anyone? Any info would be appreciated x

don't upset the monkeys

bxpuser24710519 Jan 4th 2012 9:46 pm

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Originally Posted by EllisG (Post 9822261)
don't upset the monkeys

That will be really easy as there are none ..... they are Barbary Apes :)
I would suggest not upsetting them though.

I could not live there, too small, too many people, too little space and too much unrest at the border at times.

EllisG Jan 4th 2012 10:02 pm

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Originally Posted by The Capitans Wench (Post 9822302)
That will be really easy as there are none ..... they are Barbary Apes :)
I would suggest not upsetting them though.

I could not live there, too small, too many people, too little space and too much unrest at the border at times.

Actually the Barbary Macaque is 100% monkey despite being commonly referred to as the Barbary Ape

Rosemary Jan 4th 2012 10:18 pm

Re: Moving to Gibraltar.........
 

Originally Posted by georgiesgirl79 (Post 9821328)
Any expats that can help??
Basically our situation is this... Hubby has family out there, his Grandad is Gibitarian, they lived out there for a few years when he was little as his Dad was in the Navy and stationed there. Four years ago his Mum moved out there and now works for the MOD, last July his elder brother and son moved out there to live with his girlfriend, they are now expecting a little one :)
We have often said we'd emigrate, and Gibraltar is always coming up as he has such fond memories of his time there, he can get work as a security guard with a firm his brother runs and also as a construction worker, his brother has also said that I would find work easily as I used to run a pub (which I don't really want to do again) but also they are desperate for Admins out there, which I was doing for 12yrs, I am a Teaching Assistant also.
Anyway........ my hubby is going out next week to start looking for a house, he has a job lined up with his brother to get some income coming in while looking for more permanent work and to start saving.
We have 4 children, aged 10,8, 4 and 2. Although the 8yo unfortunately won't be coming with us as much as we want her too :(
I need help looking for schools and a house- what did you do and how easy was it???????
Many thanks
Shelley x:fingerscrossed::D:confused:

As Concierge for the Spanish section of BE I would like to say hello and welcome.

BE is a very large expat website, so if you have problems finding your way around we have concierges who will try to direct you. The moderators for the Spanish forums are Mitzyboy and Fred James, moderators are there to ensure that the site runs smoothly within the rules of BE. Problems and complaints should always be addressed to a moderador who will look into the matter and deal with it efficiently and fairly. Our members who post in the Spain Forums are friendly and helpful with a wealth of knowledge of the issues of living in Spain. At the top of the page you will find a quirkily named thread called Free Beer which is full of important and useful information. Hope you enjoy your time participating in the forums.

Please let me know if you need any further help.

Rosemary

bxpuser24710519 Jan 4th 2012 11:01 pm

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Originally Posted by EllisG (Post 9822322)
Actually the Barbary Macaque is 100% monkey despite being commonly referred to as the Barbary Ape

As you say the correct name is Barbary Macque for the species on Gib but they are actually Old World Monkeys and are apes as they have no tails.

jimenato Jan 4th 2012 11:11 pm

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Originally Posted by The Capitans Wench (Post 9822413)
As you say the correct name is Barbary Macque for the species on Gib but they are actually Old World Monkeys and are apes as they have no tails.

Sorry to be pedantic but the Natural History Museum says differently.


The Barbary macaque has an extremely short vestigial tail. This tail reduction is a uniquely derived feature of the Barbary macaque and resulted in the popular misnomer of Barbary Ape.

bxpuser24710519 Jan 4th 2012 11:22 pm

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Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 9822434)
Sorry to be pedantic but the Natural History Museum says differently.

Be as pedantic as you like, I am no expert. I only know what I read on the BBC Nature site some time ago. Also when ever on the Gib I was told not to call them monkeys as they are not technically monkeys, Barbary Apes or Rock Apes.

Whatever we call them I still do not like them another reason I would not like to live near them.

Dxf Jan 5th 2012 2:00 am

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Hi

To get this back on track ........

There are quite a few people who live in Spain and cross the border daily to work in Gib. That said there are internet jobs so you can work from home and still "work" in Gib.

I would suggest that your relatives could find out more for you as they can talk to their neighbours etc.

Davexf (just a little way up the coast)

Fredbargate Jan 5th 2012 2:33 am

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A simple search for Gibraltar on this forum will throw up a lot of information.
However the best and most accurate would surely come from your family members.

georgiesgirl79 Jan 5th 2012 5:11 am

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LMAO!! Thanks for the replies and the laugh at the 'apes/monkey' debate!!
We were looking last night and it seems a lot cheaper to rent in La Linea than in Gib, which we were expecting and for the same as we pay over here we can get a 3 bed place over the border though nowhere near that in Gib, and we can make do with a 3 bed for now as our 8yo will prob be just over for holidays anyway and I'm sure when she comes over our eldest will go over his cousins to stay lol ;)
Does anyone know if the children can go to school in Gib we live over the boarder?
I spent some hours researching this site last night :typing:, found a LOT of threads that really helped. Even found the Friday ads online :lol:
Getting hold of family is sometimes a pain as its mainly online and trying to catch them between work and sleep is somewhat of a challenge. Plus I like to hear what others think, not what they think we want to hear IYKWIM??
Thanks for the replies :)

Shelley x

Fredbargate Jan 5th 2012 9:25 am

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Originally Posted by georgiesgirl79 (Post 9823010)
Does anyone know if the children can go to school in Gib we live over the boarder?

Yes they can but you will have to pay, sorry but I don't know the cost.

If you live in Gib then the schooling is free.

It has been said elsewhere on this forum that you need to consider the cost of schooling along with the rental and travel costs.

Gib = expensive rent + free schooling + free buses

Spain = cheaper rents + travel cost depends on where in Spain + free Spanish school or expensive English school.

lynnxa Jan 5th 2012 5:48 pm

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 9823494)
Yes they can but you will have to pay, sorry but I don't know the cost.

If you live in Gib then the schooling is free.

It has been said elsewhere on this forum that you need to consider the cost of schooling along with the rental and travel costs.

Gib = expensive rent + free schooling + free buses

Spain = cheaper rents + travel cost depends on where in Spain + free Spanish school or expensive English school.

someone here (jojojo.....??) looked at it a few years ago & it was about 1000€ per child per term iirc- which to be fair is less than international school if you were planning on going down that route - although obviously more than 'free' spanish state school

EllisG Jan 6th 2012 4:32 am

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Originally Posted by The Capitans Wench (Post 9822453)
Be as pedantic as you like, I am no expert. I only know what I read on the BBC Nature site some time ago. Also when ever on the Gib I was told not to call them monkeys as they are not technically monkeys, Barbary Apes or Rock Apes.

Whatever we call them I still do not like them another reason I would not like to live near them.

to clear this up they are definitely monkeys

Assuming you are human you are part of the Hominidae family related to other greater apes such as chimpanzees gorillas and orangutans and a close relative of the gibbon which is a member of the same superfamily Hominoidea. Despite the fact the Macaque is tailless it is a member of the subfamily Cercopithecinae which is part of the superfamily Cercopithecoidea but if you really want to get pedantic you could then quote the Papionini tribe and the Macaca genus but the fact still remains they are monkeys and not apes!

Mitzyboy Jan 7th 2012 8:15 am

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We need Richard Attenborough on here, we do!

jojojojojo Jan 8th 2012 2:52 am

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Originally Posted by lynnxa (Post 9824035)
someone here (jojojo.....??) looked at it a few years ago & it was about 1000€ per child per term iirc- which to be fair is less than international school if you were planning on going down that route - although obviously more than 'free' spanish state school

Yes, that was the fee. There was a loop hole which has been closed now (I think) whereby people used their office addresses as home addresses in order not to have to pay the school fees. Its "swings and roundabouts", the rents are higher in Gib, but living there saves on petrol, school fees and most things are cheaper I believe

Jo xxx

Fredbargate Jan 8th 2012 3:25 am

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 9827143)
We need Richard Attenborough on here, we do!

Sorry Richard was out when I rang, but will this do for the time being?

http://www.gonhs.org/macaques.htm

helenalou78 Jan 12th 2012 1:41 am

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Hi, when i have looked into this before if you live in Spain and want to send your children to school in Gib then the fees are around £800-£1000 per term. So as the last person said it is a decision you will have to make regarding expensive rent in Gib - £700 (for a studio) upwards, or cheap rent in Spain - (£400 for one bed) + (i have a 3 bed, 2 bath for 650 euros). Good luck!

jimenato Jan 12th 2012 3:21 am

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Originally Posted by helenalou78 (Post 9837947)
Hi, when i have looked into this before if you live in Spain and want to send your children to school in Gib then the fees are around £800-£1000 per term. So as the last person said it is a decision you will have to make regarding expensive rent in Gib - £700 (for a studio) upwards, or cheap rent in Spain - (£400 for one bed) + (i have a 3 bed, 2 bath for 650 euros). Good luck!

... and depending upon where you live in Spain and what your requirements are you can do it for a lot less than that:)

georgiesgirl79 Jan 14th 2012 2:20 am

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Well we will have 3 children to send to school (youngest will be 3 in November) and we are looking at a 3 bed at least. So Gib is def looking the better option.
My hubby and I have talked about maybe a short term let in Spain while I try and get a job and also giving us time to look for accommodation in Gib.
He is also ex Army so he is going on Monday to look into joining Gib Squadron, his Mum already works for the MOD over there so she has some contacts. Thanks for al your help xx

Worried mummy Jan 15th 2012 11:28 pm

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Originally Posted by helenalou78 (Post 9837947)
Hi, when i have looked into this before if you live in Spain and want to send your children to school in Gib then the fees are around £800-£1000 per term. So as the last person said it is a decision you will have to make regarding expensive rent in Gib - £700 (for a studio) upwards, or cheap rent in Spain - (£400 for one bed) + (i have a 3 bed, 2 bath for 650 euros). Good luck!

Just to make an update on this topic: I recently enquired the Gibraltar Department of education and got an answer of around £1,900 a term for non residents, so very expensive. Also, I got a hint that St. Joseph school is one of the best school in GIB.

Andy.P Jan 16th 2012 1:17 am

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Hi, we're in the same boat, I have a job offer in Gibraltar but I think we'll live in Spain as Gib has much higher rental/purchase costs.

What I've found out to date:

You need to live or own property in Gib to have a residency permit which entitles you to free schooling

Spanish schools are free but if you work in Gib and live in Esp you're probably eligible to pay taxes in spain after you've lived there for around half a year, the good news is your tax liabilities can be offset against an allowance which is granted for each child.

We should be moving in April so if you've not gone by then I'll let you know how we get on, we have 4 kids age 4-8 so the school thing is a big consideration for us....

Sorry can't help you in the great ape debate!

Rosemary Jan 16th 2012 1:39 am

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Originally Posted by Andy.P (Post 9845237)
Hi, we're in the same boat, I have a job offer in Gibraltar but I think we'll live in Spain as Gib has much higher rental/purchase costs.

What I've found out to date:

You need to live or own property in Gib to have a residency permit which entitles you to free schooling

Spanish schools are free but if you work in Gib and live in Esp you're probably eligible to pay taxes in spain after you've lived there for around half a year, the good news is your tax liabilities can be offset against an allowance which is granted for each child.

We should be moving in April so if you've not gone by then I'll let you know how we get on, we have 4 kids age 4-8 so the school thing is a big consideration for us....

Sorry can't help you in the great ape debate!

As Concierge for the Spanish section of BE I would like to say hello and welcome.

BE is a very large expat website, so if you have problems finding your way around we have concierges who will try to direct you. The moderators for the Spanish forums are Mitzyboy and Fred James, moderators are there to ensure that the site runs smoothly within the rules of BE. Problems and complaints should always be addressed to a moderador who will look into the matter and deal with it efficiently and fairly. Our members who post in the Spain Forums are friendly and helpful with a wealth of knowledge of the issues of living in Spain. At the top of the page you will find a quirkily named thread called Free Beer which is full of important and useful information. Hope you enjoy your time participating in the forums.

Please let me know if you need any further help.

Rosemary

Andy108 Feb 5th 2012 11:37 pm

Re: Moving to Gibraltar.........
 

Originally Posted by georgiesgirl79 (Post 9821328)
Any expats that can help??
Basically our situation is this... Hubby has family out there, his Grandad is Gibitarian, they lived out there for a few years when he was little as his Dad was in the Navy and stationed there. Four years ago his Mum moved out there and now works for the MOD, last July his elder brother and son moved out there to live with his girlfriend, they are now expecting a little one :)
We have often said we'd emigrate, and Gibraltar is always coming up as he has such fond memories of his time there, he can get work as a security guard with a firm his brother runs and also as a construction worker, his brother has also said that I would find work easily as I used to run a pub (which I don't really want to do again) but also they are desperate for Admins out there, which I was doing for 12yrs, I am a Teaching Assistant also.
Anyway........ my hubby is going out next week to start looking for a house, he has a job lined up with his brother to get some income coming in while looking for more permanent work and to start saving.
We have 4 children, aged 10,8, 4 and 2. Although the 8yo unfortunately won't be coming with us as much as we want her too :(
I need help looking for schools and a house- what did you do and how easy was it???????
Many thanks
Shelley x:fingerscrossed::D:confused:





Hello all thinking of moving to gib, Currently working as an area manager for security firm in uk looking to find similar work in gib or join gib police any one who has knowledge of how u go about applying to gib police or a security firm what's security pay like.

Apologies for the layout of the text on a phone.
Thank u in advance for any replies:D

Rosemary Feb 5th 2012 11:47 pm

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Originally Posted by Andy108 (Post 9886519)
Hello all thinking of moving to gib, Currently working as an area manager for security firm in uk looking to find similar work in gib or join gib police any one who has knowledge of how u go about applying to gib police or a security firm what's security pay like.

Apologies for the layout of the text on a phone.
Thank u in advance for any replies:D

As Concierge for the Spanish section of BE I would like to say hello and welcome.

BE is a very large expat website, so if you have problems finding your way around we have concierges who will try to direct you. The moderators for the Spanish forums are Mitzyboy and Fred James, moderators are there to ensure that the site runs smoothly within the rules of BE. Problems and complaints should always be addressed to a moderador who will look into the matter and deal with it efficiently and fairly. Our members who post in the Spain Forums are friendly and helpful with a wealth of knowledge of the issues of living in Spain. At the top of the page you will find a quirkily named thread called Free Beer which is full of important and useful information. Hope you enjoy your time participating in the forums.

Please let me know if you need any further help.

Rosemary

Kraz Feb 6th 2012 1:06 am

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Hi Everyone,

I'm also looking at moving to Gibralter. I work from home now in the UK for a US company and this would remain the same. The wife and I don't have any kids...yet. How do I start even trying to move there? Are there any special visas or paperwork I need to do? Sorry but I don't have a clue about any of this and any help would be great.

Thanks

Rosemary Feb 6th 2012 1:18 am

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Originally Posted by Kraz (Post 9886648)
Hi Everyone,

I'm also looking at moving to Gibralter. I work from home now in the UK for a US company and this would remain the same. The wife and I don't have any kids...yet. How do I start even trying to move there? Are there any special visas or paperwork I need to do? Sorry but I don't have a clue about any of this and any help would be great.

Thanks

As Concierge for the Spanish section of BE I would like to say hello and welcome.

BE is a very large expat website, so if you have problems finding your way around we have concierges who will try to direct you. The moderators for the Spanish forums are Mitzyboy and Fred James, moderators are there to ensure that the site runs smoothly within the rules of BE. Problems and complaints should always be addressed to a moderador who will look into the matter and deal with it efficiently and fairly. Our members who post in the Spain Forums are friendly and helpful with a wealth of knowledge of the issues of living in Spain. At the top of the page you will find a quirkily named thread called Free Beer which is full of important and useful information. Hope you enjoy your time participating in the forums.

Please let me know if you need any further help.

Rosemary

jimenato Feb 6th 2012 2:35 am

Re: Moving to Gibraltar.........
 

Originally Posted by Kraz (Post 9886648)
Hi Everyone,

I'm also looking at moving to Gibralter. I work from home now in the UK for a US company and this would remain the same. The wife and I don't have any kids...yet. How do I start even trying to move there? Are there any special visas or paperwork I need to do? Sorry but I don't have a clue about any of this and any help would be great.

Thanks

Gibraltar is a member of the EU so if you are a citizen of an EU country you wouldn't need a visa or anything special. Search this forum for threads about Gibraltar - there are loads.

Kraz Feb 6th 2012 7:52 am

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Hi, I can't seem to find anything on the moving process. It seems to be all about schooling fees. Is it as simple as finding a place to rent and then getting on a plane. Do I have to do anything with banking? Tax?

Mitzyboy Feb 6th 2012 9:29 am

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Originally Posted by Kraz (Post 9887358)
Hi, I can't seem to find anything on the moving process. It seems to be all about schooling fees. Is it as simple as finding a place to rent and then getting on a plane. Do I have to do anything with banking? Tax?

If you read the threads on GIB you will find schooling and accommodation is expensive on Gib, and most people seem to choose to live in Spain and commute over the border. However this isnt without problems either.

Fredbargate Feb 6th 2012 5:35 pm

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 9887527)
If you read the threads on GIB you will find schooling and accommodation is expensive on Gib, and most people seem to choose to live in Spain and commute over the border. However this isnt without problems either.

Schooling is free whilst accommodation is expensive in Gibraltar

Fredbargate Feb 6th 2012 5:37 pm

Re: Moving to Gibraltar.........
 

Originally Posted by Kraz (Post 9887358)
Hi, I can't seem to find anything on the moving process. It seems to be all about schooling fees. Is it as simple as finding a place to rent and then getting on a plane. Do I have to do anything with banking? Tax?

If you look in the Free Beer thread you will find at the bottom lots of links to Gibraltar including Tax

Fredbargate Feb 6th 2012 5:40 pm

Re: Moving to Gibraltar.........
 

Originally Posted by Kraz (Post 9887358)
Hi, I can't seem to find anything on the moving process. It seems to be all about schooling fees. Is it as simple as finding a place to rent and then getting on a plane. Do I have to do anything with banking? Tax?

If you are an EU citizen then yes you can can just get on a plane.
Gibraltar banks are mostly offshoots of UK High St banks.

Bella-40 Jul 25th 2012 12:12 am

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Originally Posted by Andy.P (Post 9845237)
Hi, we're in the same boat, I have a job offer in Gibraltar but I think we'll live in Spain as Gib has much higher rental/purchase costs.

What I've found out to date:

You need to live or own property in Gib to have a residency permit which entitles you to free schooling

Spanish schools are free but if you work in Gib and live in Esp you're probably eligible to pay taxes in spain after you've lived there for around half a year, the good news is your tax liabilities can be offset against an allowance which is granted for each child.

We should be moving in April so if you've not gone by then I'll let you know how we get on, we have 4 kids age 4-8 so the school thing is a big consideration for us....

Sorry can't help you in the great ape debate!

Hi Andy I would be interested in where you are now, with the moving to Gib etc and what you decided.:) Are you staying in Gib and schooling children there or was Spain your option.

Have the offer to move over with my partner and two children age 7 and 12, just wish a guide of costs etc and what you have found to be the best way to live a comfortable life over there.

If anyone else wishes to get back to me that would be great, but really looking for information from someone living there, with children about the same age. To give me a guide on schooling and what my role would be getting them there and back. As it may take me time to get a part-time job to fit in with the kids etc and looking at the cost of everything we may need my part-time wage sooner than later.

Rosemary Jul 25th 2012 2:30 am

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Originally Posted by Bella-40 (Post 10192144)
Hi Andy I would be interested in where you are now, with the moving to Gib etc and what you decided.:) Are you staying in Gib and schooling children there or was Spain your option.

Have the offer to move over with my partner and two children age 7 and 12, just wish a guide of costs etc and what you have found to be the best way to live a comfortable life over there.

If anyone else wishes to get back to me that would be great, but really looking for information from someone living there, with children about the same age. To give me a guide on schooling and what my role would be getting them there and back. As it may take me time to get a part-time job to fit in with the kids etc and looking at the cost of everything we may need my part-time wage sooner than later.

As Concierge for the Spanish section of BE I would like to say hello and welcome.

BE is a very large expat website, so if you have problems finding your way around we have concierges who will try to direct you. The moderators for the Spanish forums are Mitzyboy and Fred James, moderators are there to ensure that the site runs smoothly within the rules of BE. Problems and complaints should always be addressed to a moderador who will look into the matter and deal with it efficiently and fairly. Our members who post in the Spain Forums are friendly and helpful with a wealth of knowledge of the issues of living in Spain. At the top of the page you will find a quirkily named thread called Free Beer which is full of important and useful information. Hope you enjoy your time participating in the forums.

Please let me know if you need any further help.

Rosemary

Fredbargate Jul 25th 2012 7:10 am

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Originally Posted by Bella-40 (Post 10192144)

If anyone else wishes to get back to me that would be great, but really looking for information from someone living there, with children about the same age. To give me a guide on schooling and what my role would be getting them there and back. As it may take me time to get a part-time job to fit in with the kids etc and looking at the cost of everything we may need my part-time wage sooner than later.

I live in Gib but luckily have never been cursed with children.

Everywhere in Gib is within walking distance so getting kids to school is no problem.


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