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cricketman Dec 27th 2009 10:41 pm

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 8200701)
I go along with Alexandra Dumas, "Africa begins at the pyrenees" :rofl:

Given that Spain is rated higher on the quality of life indexes, what does that make the UK? A fourth world country?!

Btw, it does seem that Spain's harshest critics on this forum dont even live in the country. Why do you spend your days doing this?

HBG Dec 28th 2009 1:01 am

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 8200712)
If you seriously believe that Spain is no more corrupt than UK, this is about the right time of year for you, I bet you still believe in Father Christmas!:)

Of course I believe. In the UK I used to give presents (bribes if you like) to the postman, dustman, newspaper boy, and take yearly parcels to the council and police.

Here in Spain I don’t give anything to the newspaper boy.

Lenox Dec 28th 2009 3:22 am

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Fascinating. London, eh, full of foreigners. Cor! Meanwhile, eight elderly retired British families were visited by the Guardia Civil over Christmas (no doubt with candles and the odd wassail) with final demolition orders.
Remember how much fuss one unjust demolition (the Priors in Vera) caused? Now we are looking at eight, and the 'delegado provincial' is glibly talking about 11,000 illegal homes in Almería.
What was he doing when they were building them?

jackytoo Dec 29th 2009 7:13 am

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Daily Mail has the story, great publicity isn't it:(

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...bulldozed.html

Casa Santo Estevo Dec 29th 2009 8:19 am

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I said this before and say it again...It is not only the British caught up in these scams.
Here in Galicia, apart form the Chalets they are now knocking down on the coast here is the latest bit of news about illegally built and sold buildings.
http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/galicia...6306518300.htm
It seems the only real way to protect yourself form this is to purchase an older property.

Fredbargate Dec 29th 2009 9:09 am

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Originally Posted by Casa Santo Estevo (Post 8204473)
I said this before and say it again...It is not only the British caught up in these scams.
Here in Galicia, apart form the Chalets they are now knocking down on the coast here is the latest bit of news about illegally built and sold buildings.
http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/galicia...6306518300.htm
It seems the only real way to protect yourself form this is to purchase an older property.

From further South it's Spanish houses

http://www.cadiznews.co.uk/info2.cfm?info_id=24362

Lenox Dec 29th 2009 9:26 am

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A further story doing the rounds here in Almería. Another house will be demolished on Tuesday January 12th, this time in Las Lomas, Vera (near the Priors). I've seen the paperwork. The Junta de Andalucia has gone raving mad!

HBG Dec 29th 2009 5:20 pm

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Taking aboard the valid point that Spanish houses have been demolished too, why have the regional governments in Andalucia and Valencia adopted such a ridiculous attitude towards illegal houses?

Could it be that they have seen many of their party members, of either political divide, mostly the mayors at local level, arrested and put in prison? That’s where the regional politicians have come from, they all started off at local level, as town mayors themselves, before progressing to the higher, regional level.

Apart from the more obvious ones lining their own pockets, a lot of them have acted in the belief that they were helping their own, Spanish population, by raising monies then used by the town hall to improve local infrastructures.

It would all have gone on happily for ever more, if it hadn’t been for those pesky foreigners starting to complain about something that didn’t concern them. Instead of complaining, shouldn’t they have been grateful that they were allowed to build their mansions on Spanish land in the first place?

I watched an interview with such a former local mayor, who is obviously waiting for the Guardia to knock on his door, where he explained that everyone knew the houses were illegal, especially the foreigners who were buying houses for four million Pesetas, where everyone knew they should have been 40 million Pesetas – those were his exact words.

He finished off by saying that the new town hall administration should have collected the fines at the time, as they had always done, and the regional government would have got their share.

lynnxa Dec 29th 2009 7:16 pm

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Originally Posted by HBG (Post 8205286)
Taking aboard the valid point that Spanish houses have been demolished too, why have the regional governments in Andalucia and Valencia adopted such a ridiculous attitude towards illegal houses?

Could it be that they have seen many of their party members, of either political divide, mostly the mayors at local level, arrested and put in prison? That’s where the regional politicians have come from, they all started off at local level, as town mayors themselves, before progressing to the higher, regional level.

Apart from the more obvious ones lining their own pockets, a lot of them have acted in the belief that they were helping their own, Spanish population, by raising monies then used by the town hall to improve local infrastructures.

It would all have gone on happily for ever more, if it hadn’t been for those pesky foreigners starting to complain about something that didn’t concern them. Instead of complaining, shouldn’t they have been grateful that they were allowed to build their mansions on Spanish land in the first place?

I watched an interview with such a former local mayor, who is obviously waiting for the Guardia to knock on his door, where he explained that everyone knew the houses were illegal, especially the foreigners who were buying houses for four million Pesetas, where everyone knew they should have been 40 million Pesetas – those were his exact words.

He finished off by saying that the new town hall administration should have collected the fines at the time, as they had always done, and the regional government would have got their share.

I think you might well have a point


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