monitored alarms (CDS)
#16
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I'd agree with your first sentence but certainly not your second.
If your security system does not deter thieves from entering the property then basically it has failed and you have already lost, at least in 9 cases out of 10.
Once they are inside they'll take whatever they can within a reasonable timescale regardless of alarms and cameras which will by then make little difference anyway.
If they are professionals they'll be wearing masks and gloves and have a good idea how long they can hang around before there's any response, if indeed there's any response at all.
If your security system does not deter thieves from entering the property then basically it has failed and you have already lost, at least in 9 cases out of 10.
Once they are inside they'll take whatever they can within a reasonable timescale regardless of alarms and cameras which will by then make little difference anyway.
If they are professionals they'll be wearing masks and gloves and have a good idea how long they can hang around before there's any response, if indeed there's any response at all.
It's all down to personal choice.
#17










Joined: Jun 2011
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From: In the middle of 10million Olive Trees











therefore it will work by regular polling as with a mobile.
that means it is a low level signal which could be blocked out by another on the same frequency
we don't have a landline either as we use a wireless dish for our broadband etc.
those really clever professionals who go for the high end will have researched the types of control systems on the market and as so many people will have a box with name on it, or a plate to advertise the company concerned.
otherwise it is just snip a wire here and the thingy is dead.
#18
The control box / mobile phone unit is inside the house.
It will be tripped before anyone can get to it to tamper.
It has a battery backup which lasts many hours.
From experience the response from Securitas is from instant to 30 minutes +
It will be tripped before anyone can get to it to tamper.
It has a battery backup which lasts many hours.
From experience the response from Securitas is from instant to 30 minutes +
#19










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http://www.globalgadgetuk.com/personal.html
they are talking about having similar devices in prisons to stop use of mobiles there.
seem to remember that night patrols are the lightest manned, all you need is to trip an alarm or two at the other end of town and the world is your oyster.
in response to Abyss, AFAIK not many low level video recordings on such systems are suitable for evidence in a (British) court. The approved software costs much much more than a house alarm. That is why so few video recordings from shop raids can be used, even though they make for good video on the tele.
and to billgates - your alarm system should be sophisticated (or basic) enough to have zones and you switch on the outer (door/window) zone only when you go to bed - and who would want to watch you having a pee ?
#20
don't need to tamper,
http://www.globalgadgetuk.com/personal.html :
http://www.globalgadgetuk.com/personal.html :
#21










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From: In the middle of 10million Olive Trees












Fred, you probably have thought about possible holes in your system(s)
but I wouldnt want anyone to think that buying an alarm from Brico would be the answer to all their prayers, and probably wouldnt cut much ice with the insurance company either.
Like some other things, it isnt what you have its how you use it.
#22
You mention insurance. I know some companies may insist on it but if you tell them you have an alarm you may have difficulty claiming if for some reason you hadn't turned it on, particularly if they gave you a discount.
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the insurance didnt pay out.
#25
Simple, it even showed a 15 yr old starting one up in a couple of minutes on Watchdog the other day.
Simply order a spare key fob readily available on the internet, sit in the car a couple of minutes, programme it, then drive off.
Some insurance companies are still not willing to pay out despite a mass of available evidence proving just how easy it is.




