http://live-blog.uk.msn.com/Event/Massacre_in_the_Alps

Seems to be a nasty business, possibly involving Brits ?

A four yr old girl just been found alive after lying undiscovered underneath three dead bodies for eight hours in the car.

That's absolutely shocking, the police nowadays seem to concentrate on preserving a scene for forensic examination, to the detriment of preserving life which should be their main priority.

How can you not notice a child under two bodies in the back seat of the car? You've got to move the bodies somewhat to make sure they really are dead, surely.

It makes you wonder how many times an area has been taped off to wait for the forensic people while people inside are still alive.

Sounds a terrible situation, they are indicating its some Brits on holiday, but the facts are sketchy, it's really shocking and sad, there's crime everywhere.

There was a case in the UK some time ago where a car in a ditch was labelled with a 'Police Aware' sticker. When the grua came to take it away some days later they discovered that it contained a body.

Quite a lot of speculation on the BBC that the cyclist may have been shot because he was an unfortunate witness.
Also that possibly the Mother laid over the child to try and protect her.
According to the report,the police left the car sealed up without even checking the dead bodies at all, so whose to say they were all dead when first discovered ?

and.....heaven forbid, but it does happen....

who died first, husband or wife.?
some wills and insurance policies are very pernickety over this

or died when they could have been saved.

emergency services isnt a nice job, I know we knock the police etc for speeding fines and so on, but the initial investigation and the inspection of the vehicle(s) as well as the clear up isnt a job everyone wants.
for that they deserve every penny they get, and more.

Makes you wonder if there isn't some vendetta or politics behind this?

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...n-8112462.html

Possibly - but from the same article

Whatever - it is a horrible incident.

Word going around elsewhere that the murdered driver was a well known drugs baron.

Looks a bit like a planned hit with an automatic weapon.

The car engine was still running when the cops got there.

I've just watched an hour of the live press conference given by the French police. Amazingly, the senior officers still insist that their main task at the scene is the preservation of forensic evidence, and they had to wait for the scientists to arrive from Paris, many hours drive away.

I don't know the French system, but I'm sure it's the same as the UK's and the rest of the world's, the first objective is to preserve life, and if that disturbs forensic evidence then it's just too bad.

Mind you, the rest of the revelations are intriguing. An Iraqi born man with a Swedish wife and mother-in-law, living in posh Claygate in Surrey. 15 shots fired at the car from the outside with each adult shot neatly in the head, and a witness, a passing cyclist also shot at the scene; a posse of Special Brach officers searching the house in the UK . . .

It's like reading John Le Carre.

indicates the shooter(s) got up close, so cannot see why 15 shots fired, and how did they miss the daughter.?

oh where is Jethro..........

Possible clue. Apparently the shooter made no attempt to recover the ejected casings from the murder weapon, and left them all around before fleeing.

The latest count is twenty shots.
May have been a professional hit, but there again not so very professional.
There's been mention on the news that they think the 4yr old was hiding under her Mothers skirt, but the injured one outside the car seems a mystery unless the guy ran out of ammo to kill her and tried to batter her to death.