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Jon-Bxl Oct 15th 2012 7:55 pm

Malala Yousufzai - miracle or not?
 
This amazing girl has taken bullets, point blank, from a 9mm to the head and neck. She survived it, she then survived initial medical care, a long flight to Birmingham and the doctors are hopeful as well.

I'm not very religious - but the Taliban claim to be. Surely this survival is (to religious people) a modern day miracle .... and therefore the 'will of God?' Shouldn't they be backing off and realising that they were hopelessly in error - and changing their policies? They clearly don't have the backing of their God - who decided - against them - that she should live?

Does that make theological sense - or am I just talking rubbish?

Fredbargate Oct 15th 2012 8:10 pm

Re: Malala Yousufzai - miracle or not?
 
Assuming she survives and has the willpower she could become a leading figure in the fight for women's liberation in Afghanistan.

Whoever shot her may live to regret their action.

me me Oct 15th 2012 8:53 pm

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What a terrible story about poor Malala, she has to make it, she is what is needed in the world to help change the future for those living under oppression.

I don't know of anyone who is not wishing her all the best.

It brings home to people how lucky we are to be able to have an education no matter what sex we are.

Also it brings home how great the NHS is, when a terribly injured young girl has been flown on a long journey to receive medical care that is not available in her own country, nor from what I suppose, in the neighbouring country of India.


The fact that she has made such a long flight and treatment is being sought is surely the best indication of her state of health, I think it is a very hopeful sign.

Domino Oct 15th 2012 10:40 pm

Re: Malala Yousufzai - miracle or not?
 

Originally Posted by me me (Post 10333267)
What a terrible story about poor Malala, she has to make it, she is what is needed in the world to help change the future for those living under oppression.

I don't know of anyone who is not wishing her all the best.

It brings home to people how lucky we are to be able to have an education no matter what sex we are.

Also it brings home how great the NHS is, when a terribly injured young girl has been flown on a long journey to receive medical care that is not available in her own country, nor from what I suppose, in the neighbouring country of India.


The fact that she has made such a long flight and treatment is being sought is surely the best indication of her state of health, I think it is a very hopeful sign.

yes it is a case where some people in Pakistan are wishing she had died instantly.

but as to the medical facilities in the UK, it should be remembered that there is alot of experience gained in gunshot trauma to British servicemen in neighbouring Afghanistan who were trained in ..........
Pakistan.

perhaps alot of good is going to come from this for the future.

rugbymatt Oct 16th 2012 3:31 am

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This is rattling around the interweb at the moment, seems pretty spot on to me.

"Dear Religion, This week I safely dropped a man from space while you shot a child in the head for wanting to go to school. Yours, Science. - Ricky Gervais"

Pocaloca Oct 16th 2012 3:49 am

Re: Malala Yousufzai - miracle or not?
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 10333904)
This is rattling around the interweb at the moment, seems pretty spot on to me.

"Dear Religion, This week I safely dropped a man from space while you shot a child in the head for wanting to go to school. Yours, Science. - Ricky Gervais"

:thumbsup:

petew Oct 17th 2012 1:15 am

Re: Malala Yousufzai - miracle or not?
 
The mind set of the people who shot this girl is completely incomprehensible to me and yet I share the same planet as them. That's what I find scary - how will it be possible to reach any accommodation with these people?

nogard Oct 17th 2012 5:26 am

Re: Malala Yousufzai - miracle or not?
 

Originally Posted by Jon-Bxl (Post 10333202)
This amazing girl has taken bullets, point blank, from a 9mm to the head and neck. She survived it, she then survived initial medical care, a long flight to Birmingham and the doctors are hopeful as well.

I'm not very religious - but the Taliban claim to be. Surely this survival is (to religious people) a modern day miracle .... and therefore the 'will of God?' Shouldn't they be backing off and realising that they were hopelessly in error - and changing their policies? They clearly don't have the backing of their God - who decided - against them - that she should live?

Does that make theological sense - or am I just talking rubbish?

Rubbish!

Jon-Bxl Oct 17th 2012 5:45 am

Re: Malala Yousufzai - miracle or not?
 

Originally Posted by nogard (Post 10335885)
Rubbish!

Why?

rugbymatt Oct 17th 2012 7:38 am

Re: Malala Yousufzai - miracle or not?
 
The gunman got on the bus, walked up to her and said "Which one of you is Malala? Speak up, otherwise I will shoot you all,"


I'd say that was pretty point blank to me.

Jon-Bxl Oct 17th 2012 6:52 pm

Re: Malala Yousufzai - miracle or not?
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 10336045)
The gunman got on the bus, walked up to her and said "Which one of you is Malala? Speak up, otherwise I will shoot you all,"


I'd say that was pretty point blank to me.

We agree, I was just wondering about the theological argument. Clearly they were unsuccessful even at point blank, and so can't say that the were doing the work of God. 'Inshallah' is used all over the Arab world. I have no religion so wonder what people think, that do.

The good news is that the Pakistani government is really going after this .. and once again :fingerscrossed: for a full recovery for her and her 2 friends.

Domino Oct 17th 2012 7:39 pm

Re: Malala Yousufzai - miracle or not?
 
obviously not the same gunman in France.

nogard Oct 17th 2012 8:24 pm

Re: Malala Yousufzai - miracle or not?
 

Originally Posted by Jon-Bxl (Post 10335909)
Why?

Will of God? There is no God!

nogard Oct 17th 2012 8:26 pm

Re: Malala Yousufzai - miracle or not?
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 10336045)
The gunman got on the bus, walked up to her and said "Which one of you is Malala? Speak up, otherwise I will shoot you all,"


I'd say that was pretty point blank to me.

He must have been a crap shot.

Jon-Bxl Oct 17th 2012 8:27 pm

Re: Malala Yousufzai - miracle or not?
 

Originally Posted by nogard (Post 10336963)
Will of God? There is no God!

OK thanks for that detailed explanation. I have no religion either. Looks like a tough question... I'm happy to withdraw it....


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