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SteveDW Aug 28th 2020 10:34 pm

Re: This makes grim reading
 

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 12902732)
What is white British?

Gibraltar has a very diverse population, some of whom have taken up British citizenship, they are white in appearence but are not originally from the UK

The UK census is self-identifying where ethnicity is concerned. "White British" is people who identify themselves as White British. The list of choices is here.

https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures....-ethnic-groups

bobd22 Aug 28th 2020 10:37 pm

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Originally Posted by Chipmonk (Post 12903184)
Whole thread is being trolled by one poster. Dont react. They have been doing the same on other Spanish forums for a couple of weeks and now have been removed.

Thanks, yes I guessed that

SteveDW Aug 28th 2020 10:43 pm

Re: This makes grim reading
 

Originally Posted by inbarcelona (Post 12902393)
Because there are not many of my fellow citizens left in most big cities in the UK


Originally Posted by inbarcelona (Post 12902769)
From the 2011 census...



Brent 36.3% white
Ealing 49% white
Harrow 42.2% white
Newham 29% white
Redbridge 42.5% white
Tower Hamlets 45.2% white

Gettting close.....
Barking and Dagenham 58.3%
Croydon 55.1%
Hackney 54.7%Hounslow 51.4%
Lambeth 57.1%
Lewisham 53.5%
Southwark 54.3%
Waltham Forest 52.2%

Will be interesting what the results of next years census will be.

Your original post said "most big cities". These are not cities, they are boroughs within London. London is a city, and as a whole, it does not fit you claim. So you're still wrong, unless you can give us a list of "most big cities" that fit your claim. To be fair, in my haste I used the 2001 census figures, but I've just checked the 2011 census figures, and there are no changes that fit your claim.

SteveDW Aug 28th 2020 10:47 pm

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Originally Posted by inbarcelona (Post 12902780)
So the stats are fiddled.....just like everything else the Government tells us.

Do you have any evidence at all for this? Of course you don't, so please stop making up nonsense on the forum.

SteveDW Aug 28th 2020 10:55 pm

Re: This makes grim reading
 

Originally Posted by Lynn R (Post 12902938)
The same local authority and police force who knew and covered up the child abuse perpetrated by the late Cyril Smith MP(and others) for many years when it was common knowledge what he and his well connected (and definitely not Muslim) friends got up to with young boys living in children's homes. It's about those in positions of authority being too lazy and complacent to do anything about it and not wanting to make work for themselves, not racism. and holding the view that children from less than ideal backgrounds do not make credible witnesses and actually choose to participate in their loathsome activities . Who was the pivotal figure in finally getting the abusers in Rochdale prosecuted? Nazir Afzal, former head of the Crown Prosecution Service in the North West.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...afzal-13271237

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...using-17811996

https://jordanssolicitors.co.uk/2014...as-covered-up/

Excellent post. But I don't think facts make a difference to the anti-muslim brigade on here.

SteveDW Aug 28th 2020 11:01 pm

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Originally Posted by inbarcelona (Post 12902944)
Well that´s the bleedin´heart Liberals for you.

From the man proud of being a racist.

Fredbargate Aug 28th 2020 11:19 pm

Re: This makes grim reading
 

Originally Posted by SteveDW (Post 12903204)
The UK census is self-identifying where ethnicity is concerned. "White British" is people who identify themselves as White British. The list of choices is here.

https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures....-ethnic-groups

So is a person who is in outward appearnce white and has taken up British citizenship "White British" regardless of their background?

Your link does not make this clear.

inbarcelona Aug 28th 2020 11:34 pm

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Originally Posted by SteveDW (Post 12903215)
From the man proud of being a racist.


I´m quite comfortable with my views thank you very much.

bobd22 Aug 28th 2020 11:49 pm

Re: This makes grim reading
 

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 12903221)
So is a person who is in outward appearnce white and has taken up British citizenship "White British" regardless of their background?

Your link does not make this clear.

Surely one describes themselves as they see fits the definitions given? If someone has black, Asian links from way back when then who knows? Most would know recent family history say last couple of generations but going further back? There are children from mixed race families where one sibling has the appearance of the white parent and other sibling of their black or Asian parent, not common but does occurr. Which English born and bred person knows if they have from way back, Roman, Scandinavian, French African or Caribbean in their history? We are what we are does it really make any difference what colour our dim and distant relatives were.

SteveDW Aug 29th 2020 12:41 am

Re: This makes grim reading
 

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 12903221)
So is a person who is in outward appearnce white and has taken up British citizenship "White British" regardless of their background?

Your link does not make this clear.

Do you mean you don't understand what 'self-identifying' means?

Fredbargate Aug 29th 2020 3:03 am

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Originally Posted by SteveDW (Post 12903253)
Do you mean you don't understand what 'self-identifying' means?

So being White British is solely dependent on the way someone identifies themself regardless of any othe factor?

SteveDW Aug 29th 2020 3:17 am

Re: This makes grim reading
 

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 12903303)
So being White British is solely dependent on the way someone identifies themself regardless of any othe factor?

Self identification is how your see yourself or identifying yourself with someone or something else.

https://www.yourdictionary.com/self-identification

I'm sure you're bright enough to work it out without further explanation.

jonboy Aug 29th 2020 3:48 am

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Sounds like Fredbargate would like a DNA test just to be sure, if so he might discover more than he bargained for;)

scot47 Aug 29th 2020 7:13 am

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Racism under every stone I turn !

inbarcelona Aug 29th 2020 7:18 am

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No Scot47...you can have your independence. It will save England a lot of money.


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