Scottiedoesntknow

Hey guys, first time posting on this forum. Im from Scotland and landed in Madrid back in september. I had some savings which I have lived off for a while whilst getting to know the place. My question however is this; Is there any english bars around the madrid area you think I could apply too? My spanish is very basic at best, however I really do not mind what kind of work I get in a bar, whether it be cleaning glasses, pouring daddy pints or collecting the glasses. If anyone has any information it would be greatly appreciated!

Rosemary

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jimenato

You might have a better chance if you pretend you're Irish.

cricketman

I cant imagine a single bar in Madrid where you wont have to deal with at least some Spanish customers

The level of Spanish needed in a bar isnt that high, but you will need to be able to communicate with your work mates and of course know all the different drinks people will ask for

Domino

Scottie, not wishing to be unkind but WTF have you been doing in Madrid since you arrived in September that you have to ask us for advice on Madrid bars.?
Surely you have been looking in thru windows, walking past etc etc.

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jojojojojo

........... and lets not forget the mass unemployment in Spain. You should have started looking when you first arrived and not just British Bars - any you can find, just go in and ask

Jo xxx

steviedeluxe

Yes, it does seem a little unlikely - there are Irish bars scattered all over the place (although I think Finbars has now closed).

http://www.gomadrid.com/activity/nig...rish-pubs.html

They seem to be doing quite well too - and as Cricketman pointed out, they get Spanish customers so the language would be essential.

http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/glob...-in-madrid/810

Kayak

I frequent around some of the Irish bars in Madrid and they are mostly filled with spanish punters of course. You will need to learn Spanish. The only non speakers around here are English teachers.

The standard of spoken English in Madrid is very poor for a international city imho.... good job South America is such a emerging market to trade with

missile

Better than the level of spanish spoken in London.

Kayak

Good Point Missile,

But in the business world English is essential in europe...! Fair play for a spanish barman in madrid to speak no english!

Lucky the South Americas have a strong economy for spain to trade with

jojojojojo

But working in a bar requires the national language, to do the 'behind the scenes' stuff, such as.phoning suppliers, speaking to delivery men, sorting out local issues, speaking with the ayuntmiento.......not to mention being able to talk to regulars, most of whom will be Spanish - other nationalities who are on holiday wont expect fluency in their own language

Jo xxx

Domino

Jo, most of those things an ordinary barman serving drinks will have no contact with, just the same as in the UK, just serve drinks.
All the other bits the owner/manager will do, never even considering leaving it to a guiri with no language skills.

But many barmen in international cities such as Barcelona are multi-lingual, have uni degrees, are there for the social rather than professional aspect of the work.
Tom Cruise - Cocktail

missile

My post was in jest. I did understand your point.

jojojojojo

But how restricting. Not being able to speak or converse in the national language - even at interview level, let alone to all your colleagues. I worked in a small bar in Alhaurin el Grande {a very british bar and town} and not being fluent in Spanish was a handicap and embarrassing. In a larger bar I can only imagine how much worse it would be

Jo xxx

Domino

But Jo, someone gave you the opportunity and it improved your Spanish.

Language is only a part of the problem, bar staff are expected to be servile but strong, to have effective hygiene training - albeit limited, handling the money (that change from £ to € isnt easy) whilst being able to see beyond the limits of the bar into the gloom and foresee problems.
I don't see it as "just" a barman, but someeone who is more responsible than many want to think they are and treat in a bad way.