Learning the Language
#31
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Re: Learning the Language
Originally Posted by poollounger
I remember some 15 years or so ago signing up for a Spanish course at the City Lit in London.. a large centre for a variety of FE courses. The Spanish guy teaching was very funny, and on the first day he said the biggest hurdle Brits had to overcome was that Spanish needs to be spoken very loudly, with a huge opening to one's mouth, which he proceeded to demonstrate with a series of facial contortions. Sadly work intervened and I never finished the course.
#32
Re: Learning the Language
Originally Posted by Unexpat
...Common Spanish uses about half the vocubulary that we commonly use in English, so it becomes a neccessity to get more words in per minute, to avoid loss of interest from your audience. Then there is the added factor that the Spanish like a good conversation, for its own sake.
Yes, & very interesting, too! It made me chuckle to think of doing facial exercises before going on holiday this summer, but I think that might do the trick!
Regards,
Carol
#33
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Re: Learning the Language
Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
Its not his voice that irritates me so much, its that picture of him on the CD packet
'im in the office' has come on in leaps and bounds listening the the CDs in the car on the way to work, although he does have a talent for languages I suspect. I find it a good method but can't keep up concentration because of the silly man getting it wrong.
I still think its the best course I have tried so far.
#34
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Re: Learning the Language
I've tried watching and listening to the tv in Spain, but I find it a bit disasterous, unfortunately. Horses for courses, and all that!
Does anyone else have that perculiar thing that the minute you land in Spain, the only language you can speak (apart from English, obviously!) is French? Likewise, landing in Paris, suddenly all you can think of is Spanish? Life is very perverse ... Or perhaps it's just me.
Does anyone else have that perculiar thing that the minute you land in Spain, the only language you can speak (apart from English, obviously!) is French? Likewise, landing in Paris, suddenly all you can think of is Spanish? Life is very perverse ... Or perhaps it's just me.
#35
Re: Learning the Language
Originally Posted by un-mundo
...Does anyone else have that perculiar thing that the minute you land in Spain, the only language you can speak (apart from English, obviously!) is French? Likewise, landing in Paris, suddenly all you can think of is Spanish? Life is very perverse ... Or perhaps it's just me.
Could it be the "If it's Tuesday, it must be Belgium..." syndrome?
A bientot,
Carol
#36
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Re: Learning the Language
Originally Posted by Carol&John
Hola,
Could it be the "If it's Tuesday, it must be Belgium..." syndrome?
A bientot,
Carol
Could it be the "If it's Tuesday, it must be Belgium..." syndrome?
A bientot,
Carol
I don't do this deliberately, it's really a subconscious thing and deeply tiresome.
#37
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Re: Learning the Language
Interesting article on the BBC news today about language learning:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4883418.stm
At least I may now have an excuse for why Spanish words seem to vanish from my memory minutes after I close the text book!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4883418.stm
At least I may now have an excuse for why Spanish words seem to vanish from my memory minutes after I close the text book!
#38
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Re: Learning the Language
Originally Posted by dennis
I have been struggling with the language, someone suggested that Linkword Languages provide really good language learning material, has anyone used them.
Many thanks, Dennis
Many thanks, Dennis
To get back to the original question, yes I tried Linkword Languages. It is quite fun for vocabulary but Im not sure about the rest. I'm afraid I didn't pursue it.
Having said that I think I might have another bash, I have been listening to my Michel Thomas CD again this week. A change is as good as a rest, they say.
#39
Re: Learning the Language
Originally Posted by susique
For me its the idiotic man who gets it wrong all the time, he is really off putting! Surely no-one would really be so hopeless.....
'im in the office' has come on in leaps and bounds listening the the CDs in the car on the way to work, although he does have a talent for languages I suspect. I find it a good method but can't keep up concentration because of the silly man getting it wrong.
I still think its the best course I have tried so far.
'im in the office' has come on in leaps and bounds listening the the CDs in the car on the way to work, although he does have a talent for languages I suspect. I find it a good method but can't keep up concentration because of the silly man getting it wrong.
I still think its the best course I have tried so far.
if both pupils were smart a***S some people would feel as if they were being left behind. It is all about trying to keep everyone's confidence up.
I have listened to the Spanish, French and German courses and there is always an "idiot" pupil, thankfully not always a man.
Listen to the advanced course and there is no "idiot", but there is still one slightly brighter than the other for the reasons mentioned. Still a good course to listen to in the car!
Michel Thomas' life story is a good read, especially about his time during the war. He died last year aged 90.
#40
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Re: Learning the Language
Originally Posted by Gray C
The "idiot" one is probably not an idiot really. In fact it is very clever the way the course is conducted. When learning a language, we all learn at different speeds and for some it will take longer than others. For the more gifted language learner they will relate to the clever one on the CD and others will relate to the "idiot".
if both pupils were smart a***S some people would feel as if they were being left behind. It is all about trying to keep everyone's confidence up.
I have listened to the Spanish, French and German courses and there is always an "idiot" pupil, thankfully not always a man.
Listen to the advanced course and there is no "idiot", but there is still one slightly brighter than the other for the reasons mentioned. Still a good course to listen to in the car!
Michel Thomas' life story is a good read, especially about his time during the war. He died last year aged 90.
if both pupils were smart a***S some people would feel as if they were being left behind. It is all about trying to keep everyone's confidence up.
I have listened to the Spanish, French and German courses and there is always an "idiot" pupil, thankfully not always a man.
Listen to the advanced course and there is no "idiot", but there is still one slightly brighter than the other for the reasons mentioned. Still a good course to listen to in the car!
Michel Thomas' life story is a good read, especially about his time during the war. He died last year aged 90.
Sorry I did not mean to be rude, I know he is an actor and what he is trying to do is difficult, but the script makes such a meal of getting it wrong that it ends up being totally unconvincing and therefore an irritation. No-one would continue to make the mistakes he does so consistently by CD No. 5.
Perhaps others find it helpful, Im afraid I find it a hindrance. You translate the phrase and by the time the 'dunce' has had it sorted out you find you have forgotten your own translation or got totally confused again.
Nevertheless, it is still the best language teaching system I have come across, and over many years, I have tried quite a few.
My husband (who does have a language friendly brain) is on the advanced course, having streaked ahead of me. But then he does have an hour's journey to work every day and the opportunity to get on with it.
My vocabulary and comprehension are still better than his, so I listen, translate into English and he replies in spanish. What a team!
#41
Re: Learning the Language
Originally Posted by susique
Hi GrayC
Sorry I did not mean to be rude, I know he is an actor and what he is trying to do is difficult, but the script makes such a meal of getting it wrong that it ends up being totally unconvincing and therefore an irritation. No-one would continue to make the mistakes he does so consistently by CD No. 5.
Perhaps others find it helpful, Im afraid I find it a hindrance. You translate the phrase and by the time the 'dunce' has had it sorted out you find you have forgotten your own translation or got totally confused again.
Nevertheless, it is still the best language teaching system I have come across, and over many years, I have tried quite a few.
My husband (who does have a language friendly brain) is on the advanced course, having streaked ahead of me. But then he does have an hour's journey to work every day and the opportunity to get on with it.
My vocabulary and comprehension are still better than his, so I listen, translate into English and he replies in spanish. What a team!
Sorry I did not mean to be rude, I know he is an actor and what he is trying to do is difficult, but the script makes such a meal of getting it wrong that it ends up being totally unconvincing and therefore an irritation. No-one would continue to make the mistakes he does so consistently by CD No. 5.
Perhaps others find it helpful, Im afraid I find it a hindrance. You translate the phrase and by the time the 'dunce' has had it sorted out you find you have forgotten your own translation or got totally confused again.
Nevertheless, it is still the best language teaching system I have come across, and over many years, I have tried quite a few.
My husband (who does have a language friendly brain) is on the advanced course, having streaked ahead of me. But then he does have an hour's journey to work every day and the opportunity to get on with it.
My vocabulary and comprehension are still better than his, so I listen, translate into English and he replies in spanish. What a team!
Cheers
Graham
#42
Mark and Christine
Joined: Apr 2006
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Re: Learning the Language
I have been subscribing to a couple of excellent podcasts from itunes, namely
"notes from spain" - an expat (Ben)and his spanish wife(Marina) chatting about all things spanish and
"notes in spain" - spoken in Spanish.
I thoroughly recommend them, easy listening, very relevant and the couple are delightful and obviously very committed to their broadcasts.
Try it.
"notes from spain" - an expat (Ben)and his spanish wife(Marina) chatting about all things spanish and
"notes in spain" - spoken in Spanish.
I thoroughly recommend them, easy listening, very relevant and the couple are delightful and obviously very committed to their broadcasts.
Try it.