KIT re reg in Spain and insurence.
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I have a Kit car on a UK Q plate and it is nearing completion, again, after restoration. It is on a 1966 VW beetle chassis with a two door body, (gull wing). It is fully registered in the UK as an Eagle and has been road legal in the past but now I will need to register it here in Spain and because it is not IN THE BOOK, I am having problems as there has only been one other registered in Spain, in Oviedo.
I know I will need a special ITV but it seems the normally straight forward re-registering procedure I used on my Suzuki scooter (which didn't have a homogenization number, which cause a bit of a kerfuffle) doesn't apply as it is a Q plate and a "vehicle of unknown origin, manufacture or date".
I also will need insurance. Now Adrian Flux in the UK will insure it fully comp for 130 pounds but that is no good as I have to register it in Spain. I can't even get a quote here but there must be one company as I know O4706BU has insurance. Any ideas anyone?
I know I will need a special ITV but it seems the normally straight forward re-registering procedure I used on my Suzuki scooter (which didn't have a homogenization number, which cause a bit of a kerfuffle) doesn't apply as it is a Q plate and a "vehicle of unknown origin, manufacture or date".
I also will need insurance. Now Adrian Flux in the UK will insure it fully comp for 130 pounds but that is no good as I have to register it in Spain. I can't even get a quote here but there must be one company as I know O4706BU has insurance. Any ideas anyone?
#2
Reading this thread on this forum you do not stand a chance of registering the car.
and a few more.
El tema de los kitcar esta muerto en este pais, nuestra legislacion es muy muy restrictiva y se hace demasiado caro para homologar cualquier kitcar...burocracia y mas burocracia....
Por desgracia, si. En Reino Unido tienen una normativa bastante más permisiva y los Kit Car son más comunes. Pero, desgraciadamente, aquà tenemos una legislación que hace que se te quiten las ganas de intentar cualquier cosa.
Como leà por el foro, si ya es difÃcil homologar un alerón ya homologado, pues como para conseguir matricular un vehÃculo montado en casa.
Como leà por el foro, si ya es difÃcil homologar un alerón ya homologado, pues como para conseguir matricular un vehÃculo montado en casa.
#3
I've registered a grey import here, but I'm really not sure you will be able to do this for a Q plate kit car easily in Spain. Also, UK insurance companies wont normally insure a car that has been exported abroad, and especially as presumably you are no longer a UK resident
#4
I don't think it is impossible to register a kit car in Spain, take a look at the number of Trikes around.
I had one ( kit car ) on Gibraltar plates and gave up due to other pressures, I sold it on Ebay to a Spaniard
I had one ( kit car ) on Gibraltar plates and gave up due to other pressures, I sold it on Ebay to a Spaniard
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I know it is possible as another Eagle SS has been registered in Oviedo but..... things change and rarely for the better. If only Spain had the same as the V5c all in one low cost document.
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Form the forums I have found the Eagle in Asturias was sold around 2008. It seems to be registered under the older system where the cities letter was the first part of the number. The poster had a lot of links to various club websites and all of them are not no longer on line. I cannot find anything else about the car after it was sold.
I have also found this from the English forum on the cars. It is a different model, but again the owner was having difficulty in getting it "homologated".
(I assume the Nova and the SS are basically the same car and beetle based).
Further information: Here
This also suggests it is not going to be easy or possible.
Note added: Just found this. Read the page from paragraph 3. If you want to go through all of that then you will deserve a drink.
I have also found this from the English forum on the cars. It is a different model, but again the owner was having difficulty in getting it "homologated".
(I assume the Nova and the SS are basically the same car and beetle based).
Further information: Here
This also suggests it is not going to be easy or possible.
Note added: Just found this. Read the page from paragraph 3. If you want to go through all of that then you will deserve a drink.
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What was possible yesterday may not be possible today and even dependent on where you are!!!
I'm not saying it is impossible, but my grey import that I bought in back in 2007 would be a different challenge now ... because it was never manufactured in Europe and has no COC. Maybe there are ways you can get around COC requirements etc, but all I am saying is dont presume because there is one in Spain already that it means it is possible now
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Having read many forums and threads therein I think I have the RIGHT to have my British registered car re-registered here with a special ITV, (150€) and tax etc paid as it is already on the road in another EU country, (as in, not Japan). Anyway, here is hoping.
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I have a Kit car on a UK Q plate and it is nearing completion, again, after restoration. It is on a 1966 VW beetle chassis with a two door body, (gull wing). It is fully registered in the UK as an Eagle and has been road legal in the past but now I will need to register it here in Spain and because it is not IN THE BOOK, I am having problems as there has only been one other registered in Spain, in Oviedo.
I know I will need a special ITV but it seems the normally straight forward re-registering procedure I used on my Suzuki scooter (which didn't have a homogenization number, which cause a bit of a kerfuffle) doesn't apply as it is a Q plate and a "vehicle of unknown origin, manufacture or date".
I also will need insurance. Now Adrian Flux in the UK will insure it fully comp for 130 pounds but that is no good as I have to register it in Spain. I can't even get a quote here but there must be one company as I know O4706BU has insurance. Any ideas anyone?
I know I will need a special ITV but it seems the normally straight forward re-registering procedure I used on my Suzuki scooter (which didn't have a homogenization number, which cause a bit of a kerfuffle) doesn't apply as it is a Q plate and a "vehicle of unknown origin, manufacture or date".
I also will need insurance. Now Adrian Flux in the UK will insure it fully comp for 130 pounds but that is no good as I have to register it in Spain. I can't even get a quote here but there must be one company as I know O4706BU has insurance. Any ideas anyone?
There are many openings in the registration docs for ticking the box for "non-standard" or "not known". This could also be applied to trailers, which are individually registered, but still get through.
Suggest you endeavour to discuss with the ITV station that would be carrying out the testing and giving the mechanical approval certificate. Hacienda are only interested in receiving the relevant taxation for an approved vehicle as are Traffico. The ITV approval is the over-riding factor
rgds
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Hola,
I´m not sure but since caravans are classed as one off specials, and have to have a very special ITV test in either Barcelona or Madrid - I wouldn´t be surprised if the same applied to a kit car. Last time I asked the cost had risen from 1,400€ to 1,800€ - and that was a few years ago.
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I´m not sure but since caravans are classed as one off specials, and have to have a very special ITV test in either Barcelona or Madrid - I wouldn´t be surprised if the same applied to a kit car. Last time I asked the cost had risen from 1,400€ to 1,800€ - and that was a few years ago.
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Hola,
I´m not sure but since caravans are classed as one off specials, and have to have a very special ITV test in either Barcelona or Madrid - I wouldn´t be surprised if the same applied to a kit car. Last time I asked the cost had risen from 1,400€ to 1,800€ - and that was a few years ago.
Davexf
I´m not sure but since caravans are classed as one off specials, and have to have a very special ITV test in either Barcelona or Madrid - I wouldn´t be surprised if the same applied to a kit car. Last time I asked the cost had risen from 1,400€ to 1,800€ - and that was a few years ago.
Davexf
Even my local main dealer was perplexed at the ITV attitude but was an enormous help.
#13
I think you will find the Eagle owners Club (www.eagleownersclub.org.uk) is very much alive. I know It's mine.
Form the forums I have found the Eagle in Asturias was sold around 2008. It seems to be registered under the older system where the cities letter was the first part of the number. The poster had a lot of links to various club websites and all of them are not no longer on line.
all I am saying is dont presume because there is one in Spain already that it means it is possible now
Those links I gave in Spain are written by Spanish and they do not think it is worth it. But please promise to start a blog if you decide to do this I would be interested to read how you get on.
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In the UK you have the IVA test by VOSA and it cost 450 pounds but at least you know exactly what is required as it is clearly stated on the DVLA site, what it costs and there is no other requirement to get a reg number on a KIT or rebuilt car.
Mine is built on a 1966 VW chassis and running gear with an air cooled VW 1600 engine so could be said to be a re-bodied VW beetle.
Here in Spain it seems there is no federal standard for these things and even in Andalusia it varies from ITV station to another.
Whilst THEY insist on conformity they do not themselves conform and it is that that makes it all so difficult.
If I knew that I had to do , A, B and C and I would get a Spanish plate I would do it but it seems I end up going around in a loop, being told different things by people even in the same office sometimes, where there are two officials there seems to be three opinions. Spanish bureaucracy with mountains of paperwork in multiple copies is a international joke and it is getting worse, I have lost track of the number of times I have been told to go away with my heap of papers because they want another form or certificate only to have it dismissed by another person in the same office on my return as not necessary. Grrrrr1
Mine is built on a 1966 VW chassis and running gear with an air cooled VW 1600 engine so could be said to be a re-bodied VW beetle.
Here in Spain it seems there is no federal standard for these things and even in Andalusia it varies from ITV station to another.
Whilst THEY insist on conformity they do not themselves conform and it is that that makes it all so difficult.
If I knew that I had to do , A, B and C and I would get a Spanish plate I would do it but it seems I end up going around in a loop, being told different things by people even in the same office sometimes, where there are two officials there seems to be three opinions. Spanish bureaucracy with mountains of paperwork in multiple copies is a international joke and it is getting worse, I have lost track of the number of times I have been told to go away with my heap of papers because they want another form or certificate only to have it dismissed by another person in the same office on my return as not necessary. Grrrrr1
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In the UK you have the IVA test by VOSA and it cost 450 pounds but at least you know exactly what is required as it is clearly stated on the DVLA site, what it costs and there is no other requirement to get a reg number on a KIT or rebuilt car.
Mine is built on a 1966 VW chassis and running gear with an air cooled VW 1600 engine so could be said to be a re-bodied VW beetle.
Here in Spain it seems there is no federal standard for these things and even in Andalusia it varies from ITV station to another.
Whilst THEY insist on conformity they do not themselves conform and it is that that makes it all so difficult.
If I knew that I had to do , A, B and C and I would get a Spanish plate I would do it but it seems I end up going around in a loop, being told different things by people even in the same office sometimes, where there are two officials there seems to be three opinions. Spanish bureaucracy with mountains of paperwork in multiple copies is a international joke and it is getting worse, I have lost track of the number of times I have been told to go away with my heap of papers because they want another form or certificate only to have it dismissed by another person in the same office on my return as not necessary. Grrrrr1
Mine is built on a 1966 VW chassis and running gear with an air cooled VW 1600 engine so could be said to be a re-bodied VW beetle.
Here in Spain it seems there is no federal standard for these things and even in Andalusia it varies from ITV station to another.
Whilst THEY insist on conformity they do not themselves conform and it is that that makes it all so difficult.
If I knew that I had to do , A, B and C and I would get a Spanish plate I would do it but it seems I end up going around in a loop, being told different things by people even in the same office sometimes, where there are two officials there seems to be three opinions. Spanish bureaucracy with mountains of paperwork in multiple copies is a international joke and it is getting worse, I have lost track of the number of times I have been told to go away with my heap of papers because they want another form or certificate only to have it dismissed by another person in the same office on my return as not necessary. Grrrrr1
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