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dairymaid Jul 27th 2016 8:14 pm

kindle advice
 
I´m planning on buying a new kindle but I´m not sure which is best for our usually sunny condtions here in Spain; the anti-glare one or the paperwhite.

Can anyone advise?

Thank you

Cats-R-Us Jul 27th 2016 9:02 pm

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I had a Kindle Touch and upgraded last year to a Kindle Voyage which I am very happy with. The Voyage, with automatic variable light, enables me to read without a direct reading light when my OH is watching the TV (usually things like Heartbeat for the umpteenth time around). It is also good in our garden. Only disappointing thing about it is that it says it has a battery life of around 2 months but I only found out later that they calculate this as reading for around half an hour a day - who does that! Depending on what is happening I can read for around 12 hours a day so battery needs recharging after around 2 or 3 days. On the whole though I am very pleased with it as where I live there are very few places I can buy an actual book in English.

Alectryon Jul 27th 2016 9:35 pm

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Can I digress slightly - please? I purchased a NOOK last October, it took Barnes and Noble 2 months to register it. I then bought books quite happily until B&N decided to sell their operations to Sainsbury. Once Sainsbury found out that I was not in the UK they refused to a) sell me any books, and b) refused to transfer my NOOK library. So, if I purchase a Kindle will Amazon UK still let me buy books even tho' I have a Spanish ISP address? Thank you.

Rosemary Jul 27th 2016 9:45 pm

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Originally Posted by Alectryon (Post 12014022)
Can I digress slightly - please? I purchased a NOOK last October, it took Barnes and Noble 2 months to register it. I then bought books quite happily until B&N decided to sell their operations to Sainsbury. Once Sainsbury found out that I was not in the UK they refused to a) sell me any books, and b) refused to transfer my NOOK library. So, if I purchase a Kindle will Amazon UK still let me buy books even tho' I have a Spanish ISP address? Thank you.

I have a Kindle, bought from and registered it with my Amazon UK account and happily buy books on a regular basis with no problems at all. The only account address that I have with them is in Spain.

Rosemary

Lojahome Jul 27th 2016 10:32 pm

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Originally Posted by dairymaid (Post 12013982)
I´m planning on buying a new kindle but I´m not sure which is best for our usually sunny condtions here in Spain; the anti-glare one or the paperwhite.

Can anyone advise?

Thank you

We have a classic Kindle and Paperwhite, and find they are both readable in bright sun although the Paperwhite is slightly better.

Alectryon Jul 27th 2016 11:13 pm

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Thank you Rosemary BUT this is the reply I have from Amazon with regard to purchasing Kindle e-books.

You won't be able to buy and download ebooks from the UK site. We only have ebooks for purchase by people living in the UK etc.

Back to square one, ie buying cheap, used paperbacks. Sigh!

Rosemary Jul 28th 2016 12:51 am

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Originally Posted by Alectryon (Post 12014089)
Thank you Rosemary BUT this is the reply I have from Amazon with regard to purchasing Kindle e-books.

You won't be able to buy and download ebooks from the UK site. We only have ebooks for purchase by people living in the UK etc.

Back to square one, ie buying cheap, used paperbacks. Sigh!

That is strange because if someone buys a Kindle and then moves around Europe (for example) they can still buy their e-books wherever they are.

When I had a silly little problem with my Kindle screen I even talked on the phone with one of their advisors who rang me in Spain.

Many years ago I think this was discussed and I believe that people were ordering their Kindles form the USA, registering it with them and then changing the registration to the UK.

Do you have an account with Amazon UK?

Rosemary

Alectryon Jul 28th 2016 1:11 am

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Yes, I do have an account with Amazon UK for the purchase of everything, except books, because as of now I do not own a Kindle. I m reluctant to buy a Kindle at the moment because of their response, I've already spent enough money on the bl**dy NOOK, to no avail. I know that the UK is exiting the EU, but prior to that what happened to the one-market, big happy family?

Rosemary Jul 28th 2016 3:08 am

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Originally Posted by Alectryon (Post 12014189)
Yes, I do have an account with Amazon UK for the purchase of everything, except books, because as of now I do not own a Kindle. I m reluctant to buy a Kindle at the moment because of their response, I've already spent enough money on the bl**dy NOOK, to no avail. I know that the UK is exiting the EU, but prior to that what happened to the one-market, big happy family?

I have sent you a PM with info from my friend that may help you.

Rosemary

Alectryon Jul 28th 2016 3:52 am

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Originally Posted by Rosemary (Post 12014296)
I have sent you a PM with info from my friend that may help you.

Rosemary

I have received your PM's but I am not sure if you have received my replies! This site is so difficult as I receive no confirmation that my replies to PM's have been sent/received. Why can't we go back to postcards? (showing my age I know).

Rosemary Jul 28th 2016 4:11 am

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Originally Posted by Alectryon (Post 12014334)
I have received your PM's but I am not sure if you have received my replies! This site is so difficult as I receive no confirmation that my replies to PM's have been sent/received. Why can't we go back to postcards? (showing my age I know).

I received them.

If you want to double check whether your reply has gone successfully all you have to do is look in sent messages which is in the drop down in Folder control just above your list of messages.

Rosemary

rachelk Jul 28th 2016 6:49 am

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Originally Posted by Alectryon (Post 12014089)
Thank you Rosemary BUT this is the reply I have from Amazon with regard to purchasing Kindle e-books.

You won't be able to buy and download ebooks from the UK site. We only have ebooks for purchase by people living in the UK etc.

Back to square one, ie buying cheap, used paperbacks. Sigh!

Go into your account, and choose Manage content and devices (or something)

In there you can change your kindle registration to the UK Mine's in spanish so I don't know exactly what it says in english but there are three tabs across the page, something like Content, Devices and Settings. Go into the third one and you will see an option to change country.

Your kindle doesn't have to be registered to the same country as your postal address - I know this because I've moved a few times but kept my kindle registered to spain.

Fred James Jul 28th 2016 8:48 am

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Yes, that's correct. I have a Spanish address, but I have changed my Kindle country to the UK and can download Kindle books with no problem.

Alectryon Jul 28th 2016 6:15 pm

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Thank you all very much. Give me something to do on Sunday. First of all I have to get on to Amazon and buy a Kindle.

MikeJ Jul 28th 2016 6:37 pm

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Originally Posted by Alectryon (Post 12014189)
Yes, I do have an account with Amazon UK for the purchase of everything, except books, because as of now I do not own a Kindle. I m reluctant to buy a Kindle at the moment because of their response, I've already spent enough money on the bl**dy NOOK, to no avail. I know that the UK is exiting the EU, but prior to that what happened to the one-market, big happy family?

Download the Kindle app to your PC (its free) and try it out ;)


I bought the Kindle with Whispernet and it allows me to download wherever I am - (so far Europe, Asia and Caribbean)

Rosemary Jul 28th 2016 7:19 pm

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Originally Posted by Alectryon (Post 12014779)
Thank you all very much. Give me something to do on Sunday. First of all I have to get on to Amazon and buy a Kindle.

Amazon UK will not post it to Spain, you will need to order it from Amazon.es.

Rosemary

Mark604 Jul 28th 2016 10:11 pm

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I prefer the Paperwhite though the battery doesn't quite last as long as the basic Kindle. Though it is easy enough to turn the brightness down to compensate.
I also have a UK account but have no problems downloading books in any country I've been in.

Dick Dasterdly Jul 29th 2016 11:27 am

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I have an old kindle e reader from Amazon UK which is getting a bit long in the tooth.
Is there any problem transferring the books in its memory to a new device if I replace it ?

Bo-Jangles Jul 29th 2016 3:06 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12015456)
I have an old kindle e reader from Amazon UK which is getting a bit long in the tooth.
Is there any problem transferring the books in its memory to a new device if I replace it ?


Your books are 'in the cloud' as it were and will remain available on your Amazon account and can be delivered to multiple devices. I just got a new one and it was automatically registered to my account with the same kindle e-mail address etc.

quiltman Jul 29th 2016 5:20 pm

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Well, i'm in the Philippines and have absolutely no problem getting books from Amazon UK. Admittedly 90% are the free ones , but they download via wifi with no problem. My wife has a paperwhite which I logged onto my account and same there. There are thousands of free books available on the web - Project Guttenberg or library genus are just two. Download Calibre and you can convert ebooks into the kindle specific format. If you want more info on getting free books then please PM me.

dairymaid Aug 4th 2016 3:53 am

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Thank you all for your advice. I think I´m going to go for the paperwhite.

mikelincs Aug 4th 2016 4:08 am

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Originally Posted by dairymaid (Post 12019856)
Thank you all for your advice. I think I´m going to go for the paperwhite.

This programme will convert most formats to other formats, however you do have to be online to use it, it isn't a downloadable app.

Online ebook converter

Maur-Ross Aug 4th 2016 8:58 am

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My OH has paperwhite. He lost it and got a new one. Deregistered th old one, reregistered the new one with same email address in UK. He has downloaded books in different countries whilst on holiday no bother. The kindle justs acts as if he is in UK

Loafing Along Aug 4th 2016 9:21 am

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Originally Posted by Alectryon (Post 12014089)
Thank you Rosemary BUT this is the reply I have from Amazon with regard to purchasing Kindle e-books.

You won't be able to buy and download ebooks from the UK site. We only have ebooks for purchase by people living in the UK etc.

Back to square one, ie buying cheap, used paperbacks. Sigh!

If you register on the Spanish site ( Amazon.es ) and go to books in foreign languages you can get everything you want without any problem. Give it a go

Brano77 Aug 16th 2016 8:50 pm

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We have happily been downloading books from Amazon UK for years until last week. We could download samples but not books. Contacted the Kindle Help people and they said a recent software update to certain Kindles was causing a problem. They sent me an Amazon Refurbished Paperwhite (our Paperwhite is 4 years out of warranty) free of charge - impressed with service. However the replacement exhibits the same problem - books queue. I am now being told it may be a "region" problem - see below.

"Is it possible that the real problem is that you are trying to buy and download books from the wrong region?
This is the UK help center and supports ebook sales to the UK
Your, your account, your bank, your card and your kindle must be in the UK to use it.

If you are overseas then you need to be using the relevant Amazon portal (france, italy, germany, spain, etc.) or the www.amazon.com site for rest of world.

{Note: If you are overseas and have been purchasing from the UK up until now one of the security updates of the new software will be what is blocking your purchases.}"

Anyone else experiencing this problem?

Thanks

Fred James Aug 16th 2016 9:10 pm

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You could try buying the book direct from the Amazon site on your PC, or using the Kindle app on a phone or tablet. Once it is in your Kindle library, you should be able to access from any device.

I don't use a Kindle, but I buy from the Amazon site and have it delivered to my iPad.

quiltman Aug 16th 2016 9:13 pm

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I did have a problem with my kindle keyboard due to amazon changing the way their online security works. They issued an update a little while ago which has cured it. Never had a problem with my wifes paperwhite - bought locally and is US version. Registered it on my amazon UK account and everything works fine. To be fair . 99% of the books I get are either the freebies from amazon or from library genesis - just download, add to Calibre and transfer to kindle.I haven't bought an ebook from amazon for 4 years! I've downloaded free books from amazon whilst in Dubai, hong kong , France, Canada and USA with no problems.

quiltman Aug 16th 2016 9:14 pm

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Oh, heres a link re the update.
How To Manually Update Your Kindle If You Miss the Deadline | The Digital Reader

MikeJ Aug 16th 2016 10:39 pm

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If being able to download books wherever you are without geoblocking associated with WiFi & Internet then buy the option which includes free 3G. It's a bit more expensive but I've certainly found it worry free downloading wherever I've been using the Whispernet over 3G

quiltman Aug 16th 2016 11:10 pm

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Originally Posted by MikeJ (Post 12028466)
If being able to download books wherever you are without geoblocking associated with WiFi & Internet then buy the option which includes free 3G. It's a bit more expensive but I've certainly found it worry free downloading wherever I've been using the Whispernet over 3G

Well , I use my UK registered kindle over the house wifi here and have no problem getting books via whispernet. Maybe it's because my amazon account is linked to a UK address - my friends - and to a UK debit card. #G here is far to slow.

Brano77 Aug 17th 2016 12:39 am

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Thanks for the replies.

UPDATE.

I received this via the UK Amazon Community Forum

"Amazon UK can only legally sell ebooks to UK accounts.
As their software gets better they can and will cut off "externals" since Amazon can not break the law. What individuals do is up to them.

If you are downloading via a pc then there are lots of ways that a computer can "hide" where it is through legal and illegal software. It does not change the simple situation that you can and must do whatever you choose to do. Amazon can and must comply with the law.

At least it is clear what the problem is now. You can solve it very easily or find alternative ways of conducting your account.

Please be aware - and this is not meant in anything other than a helpful way - If amazon read your posts they will be obliged to take action. You may wish to delete your posts and continue doing whatever you are doing. You may also wish to go to the HELP pages and look at MIGRATION to see how you can legitimately migrate your account to www.amazon.es or www,amazon.com"

FURTHER UPDATE.

Took our Paperwhite to an internet cafe - all worked fine! So the problem seems to be local to the 3G Wireless Modem in the house and has started following the recent software update on the Paperwhite.

I have a Kindle Touch and that still works fine in the house. We have no landline but a reasonably good wireless signal from Orange and use a TP Link TL MR3420 3G Wireless modem for internet using Masmovil. So I assume the recent software update has some conflict with the modem? I can of course download the books to the PC and transfer them but I would be interested to know if anyone can suggest a possible solution by a change to the configuration of the modem.

Thanks

Rosemary Aug 17th 2016 1:26 am

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Originally Posted by Brano77 (Post 12028433)
We have happily been downloading books from Amazon UK for years until last week. We could download samples but not books. Contacted the Kindle Help people and they said a recent software update to certain Kindles was causing a problem. They sent me an Amazon Refurbished Paperwhite (our Paperwhite is 4 years out of warranty) free of charge - impressed with service. However the replacement exhibits the same problem - books queue. I am now being told it may be a "region" problem - see below.

"Is it possible that the real problem is that you are trying to buy and download books from the wrong region?
This is the UK help center and supports ebook sales to the UK
Your, your account, your bank, your card and your kindle must be in the UK to use it.

If you are overseas then you need to be using the relevant Amazon portal (france, italy, germany, spain, etc.) or the www.amazon.com site for rest of world.

{Note: If you are overseas and have been purchasing from the UK up until now one of the security updates of the new software will be what is blocking your purchases.}"

Anyone else experiencing this problem?

Thanks

I have only ever downloaded to my Kindle from Amazon UK, the only address they have for me is a Spanish address, I do pay with a UK credit card but only because it is the card that was registered with them years ago.

I downloaded the update that occurred several weeks ago and have bought several books since but I decided in the light of your post to check that it was still alright. Successfully downloaded a book a few minutes ago.

Rosemary

Loafing Along Aug 17th 2016 1:36 am

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Originally Posted by Rosemary (Post 12028567)
I have only ever downloaded to my Kindle from Amazon UK, the only address they have for me is a Spanish address, I do pay with a UK credit card but only because it is the card that was registered with them years ago.

I downloaded the update that occurred several weeks ago and have bought several books since but I decided in the light of your post to check that it was still alright. Successfully downloaded a book a few minutes ago.

Rosemary

Sometime ago whenever I shopped on Amazon UK , including Kindle, I got a message at the top of the Amazon page "noticing" I am in Spain and suggesting I switched to Amazon.es. Followed the advice and ever since have always shopped across the whole range of Amazon stores startting from the Amazon.es base.
Yes my address is in Spain and stopped using a UK credit card as my bank offered a "Cybershopping" card, much more secure as I leave it charged with only a small balance, topping it up if I buy any big items.

Rosemary Aug 17th 2016 1:43 am

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Originally Posted by Loafing Along (Post 12028579)
Sometime ago whenever I shopped on Amazon UK , including Kindle, I got a message at the top of the Amazon page "noticing" I am in Spain and suggesting I switched to Amazon.es. Followed the advice and ever since have always shopped across the whole range of Amazon stores startting from the Amazon.es base.
Yes my address is in Spain and stopped using a UK credit card as my bank offered a "Cybershopping" card, much more secure as I leave it charged with only a small balance, topping it up if I buy any big items.

I have bought quite a lot of things from Amazon.es and have my Spanish card registered with them to save hassle with exchange rates. All is completed using my normal Amazon account number. Never thought to look for Kindle books on there though.

Rosemary

Loafing Along Aug 17th 2016 1:46 am

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There are two options : "Tienda Kindle" or "Livros en idiomas extranjeros " which also includes Kindle books.

moneypenny20 Aug 17th 2016 1:46 am

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Don't know if this helps you guys but I'm in Aus and used to have major problems buying books for my Kindle from Amazon UK. I only ever use Amazon US now with no problem whatsoever.


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