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Re: Jerez is burning

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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10400843)

see its got you confused

we have gone from Jerez to Thatcher to Mineworkers, its so easy in BES

mining machines have to have a man to operate them, they are not yet fully automatic and can't tell when the seam alters course.
that is why all the cries about the amount of coal left in closed UK mines falls on deaf ears.
and I know I wouldn't want to travel 5miles out under the North Sea to a coal face, where the water dripping in is pure North Sea.

To give just one example, only guys at the face can check the roof for safety and see what supports are required or even if it's safe to continue.
Roof falls are only one of the many risks down below.

When the last underground mines closed round my way back in the 60s guys were lying in water trying to hack coal out of seams less than 2 feet high.

Still have surface or opencast mining even now, been going strong since about 1950 on my place.
Even been back and ripped the same land up on three seperate occasions, taking out a deeper seam each time with improved equipment.

Re: Jerez is burning

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10400882)

To give just one example, only guys at the face can check the roof for safety and see what supports are required or even if it's safe to continue.

Well, I'd have thought that if they can invent unmanned drones they can kill people with from thousands of miles away, they can devise and install some equipment that would check this?

But miners' lives in developing countries are cheaper, I suppose. :thumbdown:

Re: Jerez is burning

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Originally Posted by Pocaloca (Post 10402068)

Such as the US I suppose ?

I recently watched a documentary series about present day underground coal mining in the US.

Despite the fact that they were continually bringing in new equipment, most of the same dangers and health risks still clearly exist, many things can only be done and checked out manually and it is still a very hazardous occupation.

Also I spent some time in the company of some of these guys when I was over there a few years back and it was surprising how similar their outlook and experiences were to the locals from my own area from many years previously.

Re: Jerez is burning

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Originally Posted by Pocaloca (Post 10402068)

Not just miners lives, all lives of ordinary people are cheap in many countries. They are being killed by fellow muslims because they are Shia, Sufi. They are being killed because they come from another village in the next valley. Life is cheap. For how long has Sudan been a killing ground for those born in the right or wrong place

Unless it is you or I that should kill one by accident, then see how cheap life is.
:eek:

so have things settled down in Jerez now ??
Presumably there will be major changes at the next local elections.
:fingerscrossed:

Re: Jerez is burning

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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10402551)

I spent much of the late 70s and 80s in West Africa, and can never dismiss from my mind the high sided Motorway trucks heading up the appalling roads to the latest stage of work on new roads to nowhere.
Labourers and other workers sitting perched 20 feet up above the bouncing empty metal body. Many were injured, some killed, a risk they all knew. But the alternatives were not working, walking (for a day) or travelling in the metal body with temperatures of 100 degrees.
We have easy choices in the developed world.