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lutonlad Nov 8th 2016 12:18 am

ITV Rules
 
The ITV for my Spanish car is due in early March every year and I've always been there to have it done.

However, next year I'm not able to be there until mid April.
The car is in a private driveway and not used when I'm in the UK.

If I have the ITV done as soon as I return, am I breaking any rules?

Thanks for any advice.

snikpoh Nov 8th 2016 12:56 am

Re: ITV Rules
 
I don't think so. The new ITV will run from the date it passes the new test.

dypcdiver Nov 8th 2016 1:58 am

Re: ITV Rules
 
Make an appointment online for when you get back and do not use the car for any other purpose other than going directly to the ITV station.

lutonlad Nov 8th 2016 2:56 am

Re: ITV Rules
 
Thanks for the replies.

I usually get a local garage to do it, which includes a service.

Sounds like I'll be ok if I get it done as soon as I get back.

Cllve Nov 8th 2016 9:28 am

Re: ITV Rules
 
I would look further into it if I were you as you could face fines for driving it to the test center and there is also the likely hood that the car will automatically be de-registered when a computer throws up that it has no ITV.

Please don't rely on people's opinions, mine included, get some legal advice. It's too important to take forum advice, no matter how helpful members are, as it will be you and not them who would have to pay any fines.

If you do find out the legalities, please post back.

big wheels Nov 8th 2016 10:54 am

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Is there any chance of getting it done before March?
You can have the test done any time before it expires , but your next test will be due 12 or 24 months from the new date.

The fine for driving with an expired ITV is €200

http://itvcitaprevia.es/multa-por-itv-caducada/

bobd22 Nov 8th 2016 8:18 pm

Re: ITV Rules
 

Originally Posted by big wheels (Post 12099105)
Is there any chance of getting it done before March?
You can have the test done any time before it expires , but your next test will be due 12 or 24 months from the new date.

The fine for driving with an expired ITV is €200

Multa por ITV caducada o por no pasar la inspección periódica

I was about to ask that as I may need to get mine done early. Thanks

billgates Nov 8th 2016 10:16 pm

Re: ITV Rules
 
If the ITV has expired:

Are you allowed to drive your car to a pre-arranged ITV appointment?

In the event of a ITV failure (non-serious), you get 60days to resubmit for testing, therefore can you legally drive your car home from the ITV centre?

Can you drive your car during those 60days (to take it to a garage for repairs, collect parts, test-drive, etc)?

snikpoh Nov 8th 2016 10:33 pm

Re: ITV Rules
 

Originally Posted by billgates (Post 12099760)
If the ITV has expired:

Are you allowed to drive your car to a pre-arranged ITV appointment? Yes

In the event of a ITV failure (non-serious), you get 60days to resubmit for testing, therefore can you legally drive your car home from the ITV centre?

Can you drive your car during those 60days (to take it to a garage for repairs, collect parts, test-drive, etc)?

As I understand it, you can ONLY drive it to a place of repair and then back to the ITV station. No collecting parts, no test drive etc.

Dxf Nov 9th 2016 1:44 am

Re: ITV Rules
 
Hola

From memory I believe that officially you have to take it to the ITV centre on a grua and only if it passes can you drive it away.

But I know round here that if you stopped without an ITV, the police will follow you to the ITV centre and make sure your car undergoes the test.

Davexf

Fred James Nov 9th 2016 2:32 am

Re: ITV Rules
 
No, you can drive it to and from the garage when it has been fixed. The only time you need a grua is when you have a dangerous fail and it cannot even be driven to the garage.

Loafing Along Nov 9th 2016 4:59 am

Re: ITV Rules
 

Originally Posted by lutonlad (Post 12098608)
The ITV for my Spanish car is due in early March every year and I've always been there to have it done.

However, next year I'm not able to be there until mid April.
The car is in a private driveway and not used when I'm in the UK.

If I have the ITV done as soon as I return, am I breaking any rules?

Thanks for any advice.

.
Simple answer is "Yes" . The question is whether or not you get caught. I had a similar problem and rang the ITV centre explaining I would be a few days late due to travelling and they said , in the politest possible way, "That is your problem".

snikpoh Nov 9th 2016 6:02 pm

Re: ITV Rules
 

Originally Posted by Loafing Along (Post 12100280)
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Simple answer is "Yes" . The question is whether or not you get caught. I had a similar problem and rang the ITV centre explaining I would be a few days late due to travelling and they said , in the politest possible way, "That is your problem".

Why? If it's off road, do you still need an ITV? Imagine a vehicle that is in an accident and is unroadworthy - does it need an ITV? It might not yet be in a garage for repair until the insurance underwriter has been to assess it.

We were in that situation recently. Couldn't repair the bike until the assessor had been, in the meantime, the ITV ran out. It took nearly 6 months before the bike could be fixed.

Loafing Along Nov 9th 2016 7:42 pm

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Originally Posted by snikpoh (Post 12100874)
Why? If it's off road, do you still need an ITV? Imagine a vehicle that is in an accident and is unroadworthy - does it need an ITV? It might not yet be in a garage for repair until the insurance underwriter has been to assess it.

We were in that situation recently. Couldn't repair the bike until the assessor had been, in the meantime, the ITV ran out. It took nearly 6 months before the bike could be fixed.

Obviously while off the road not a problem but driving it even to the ITV centre without valid ITV means insurance is also invalid. Also arrival day " Must pop to supermarket" same scenario.

snikpoh Nov 9th 2016 8:08 pm

Re: ITV Rules
 

Originally Posted by Loafing Along (Post 12100950)
Obviously while off the road not a problem but driving it even to the ITV centre without valid ITV means insurance is also invalid. Also arrival day " Must pop to supermarket" same scenario.

So the answer to the OP is actually NO not yes.

If it's on a private driveway and he get's an ITV as soon as he returns, then he's OK.


I'm not sure that insurance is invalidated for not having an ITV. I think this is the same in UK regarding the MOT.

Cllve Nov 9th 2016 8:43 pm

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Originally Posted by snikpoh (Post 12100969)
So the answer to the OP is actually NO not yes.

If it's on a private driveway and he get's an ITV as soon as he returns, then he's OK.


I'm not sure that insurance is invalidated for not having an ITV. I think this is the same in UK regarding the MOT.

The problem is he won't be on a private driveway when he drives to the ITV center.

bobd22 Nov 9th 2016 8:50 pm

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Originally Posted by snikpoh (Post 12100969)
I'm not sure that insurance is invalidated for not having an ITV. I think this is the same in UK regarding the MOT.

Vehicle insurance in the uk is not invalidated by having no MOT. Insurance once issued is validated untill notice is given by the insurer that it is not validated. It could be that if insurance company believe car is in unroadworthy condition etc they could decline to pay out fully comp for any damage to your own vehicle, but they must honour their 3rd party commitment.

snikpoh Nov 9th 2016 11:26 pm

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Originally Posted by Cllve (Post 12101002)
The problem is he won't be on a private driveway when he drives to the ITV center.

But going directly to the ITV station is not a problem - quite allowable in Spain.

Dxf Nov 10th 2016 12:28 am

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Originally Posted by snikpoh (Post 12101088)
But going directly to the ITV station is not a problem - quite allowable in Spain.

Hola

Can you quote the law on that? I have been told by ITV that if you fail the ITV and don't have it retested within the 30 day limit, then you must use a grua. Also was told that in theory, if you fail to renew your ITV, then once more you must use a grua.

It could of course be "local practice" but at the time I thought it was Spain wide.

Davexf

lutonlad Nov 10th 2016 2:19 am

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Thanks for the comments. Maybe I should have a chat with my local garage. They're Spanish so hopefully they will Know :fingerscrossed:

davidinspain Nov 10th 2016 4:43 am

Re: ITV Rules
 

Originally Posted by snikpoh (Post 12100969)
So the answer to the OP is actually NO not yes.

If it's on a private driveway and he get's an ITV as soon as he returns, then he's OK.


I'm not sure that insurance is invalidated for not having an ITV. I think this is the same in UK regarding the MOT.

It is the same,as the UK,if it's in a "roadworthy condition" you are covered third party.

Fred James Nov 10th 2016 5:16 am

Re: ITV Rules
 

Originally Posted by Dxf (Post 12101148)
Hola

Can you quote the law on that? I have been told by ITV that if you fail the ITV and don't have it retested within the 30 day limit, then you must use a grua. Also was told that in theory, if you fail to renew your ITV, then once more you must use a grua.

It could of course be "local practice" but at the time I thought it was Spain wide.

Davexf

It's actually 60 days and the law clearly states that you can drive it to and from the garage unless it is a dangerous failure.

La tarjeta ITV será devuelta al titular del vehículo o persona que lo haya presentado a la inspección, concediéndole un plazo inferior a
dos meses, contados desde la primera inspección, para la subsanación de los defectos y la presentación a nueva inspección en la
misma estación ITV. El vehículo inspeccionado quedará inhabilitado para la circulación por las vías públicas, excepto para su traslado al
taller y vuelta a la estación, o regularización de su situación, en su caso.


Or in English, courtesy of Google

"The ITV card will be returned to the owner of the vehicle or person who submitted it to the inspection, granting it a term shorter than
Two months, counted from the first inspection, for the correction of defects and the presentation to a new inspection in the
Same ITV station. The vehicle inspected shall be disabled for traffic on public roads, except for
Workshop and return to the station, or regularization of their situation, if any."

Cllve Nov 10th 2016 7:15 am

Re: ITV Rules
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 12101473)
It's actually 60 days and the law clearly states that you can drive it to and from the garage unless it is a dangerous failure.

La tarjeta ITV será devuelta al titular del vehículo o persona que lo haya presentado a la inspección, concediéndole un plazo inferior a
dos meses, contados desde la primera inspección, para la subsanación de los defectos y la presentación a nueva inspección en la
misma estación ITV. El vehículo inspeccionado quedará inhabilitado para la circulación por las vías públicas, excepto para su traslado al
taller y vuelta a la estación, o regularización de su situación, en su caso.


Or in English, courtesy of Google

"The ITV card will be returned to the owner of the vehicle or person who submitted it to the inspection, granting it a term shorter than
Two months, counted from the first inspection, for the correction of defects and the presentation to a new inspection in the
Same ITV station. The vehicle inspected shall be disabled for traffic on public roads, except for
Workshop and return to the station, or regularization of their situation, if any."

But surely if it hasn't passed the ITV those rules apply, but not if you have failed to present the vehicle in the first place?

Fred James Nov 10th 2016 8:38 am

Re: ITV Rules
 

Originally Posted by Cllve (Post 12101642)
But surely if it hasn't passed the ITV those rules apply, but not if you have failed to present the vehicle in the first place?

That has nothing to do with the question I replied to.

If you fail to present your vehicle when the ITV is due, you are liable to a fine.

lutonlad Nov 10th 2016 9:28 am

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Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 12101757)
That has nothing to do with the question I replied to.

If you fail to present your vehicle when the ITV is due, you are liable to a fine.

So if I'm not in Spain when the ITV is due, I am subject to a fine even if I get it done as soon as I return?

snikpoh Nov 10th 2016 5:57 pm

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Also, as I said earlier, if the vehicle is undriveable due to an accident, I can be fined for not having an ITV?

There must be more to it than that.

bobd22 Nov 11th 2016 1:15 am

Re: ITV Rules
 

Originally Posted by lutonlad (Post 12101851)
So if I'm not in Spain when the ITV is due, I am subject to a fine even if I get it done as soon as I return?

I would imagine that is possible. I am in similar situation next year not knowing if when itv due I will be in Spain. I will look at getting it done when I am over a bit before itv is due all being well. UK system does seem fairer where by so long as MOT is booked you are ok for the journey to andc from test.

Fred James Nov 11th 2016 2:46 am

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So long as you are driving to a pre-booked appointment at the ITV centre, you can drive without a valid ITV.

bobd22 Nov 11th 2016 4:18 am

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Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 12102372)
So long as you are driving to a pre-booked appointment at the ITV centre, you can drive without a valid ITV.

So same as uk the which makes sense. Cheers Fred

lutonlad Nov 12th 2016 1:06 am

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Originally Posted by bobd22 (Post 12102437)
So same as uk the which makes sense. Cheers Fred

Also thanks from me.


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