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Maybe1day Apr 11th 2014 7:18 pm

Illegal Immigration
 
The leader of the Italian centre right party has said this week that there are between 300,000 and 600,000 individuals waiting on the N.African to enter EU by any means. Should we provide ferries for them so that there is no further loss of lives. 15K have already come to Italy this year, or should we tow the boats back to Libia or wherever and sink them as they beach?
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me me Apr 11th 2014 7:34 pm

Re: Illegal Immigration
 

Originally Posted by Maybe1day (Post 11215588)
The leader of the Italian centre right party has said this week that there are between 300,000 and 600,000 individuals waiting on the N.African to enter EU by any means. Should we provide ferries for them so that there is no further loss of lives. 15K have already come to Italy this year, or should we tow the boats back to Libia or wherever and sink them as they beach?
M

Isn't this thread more appropriate to the Italian section?

rugbymatt Apr 11th 2014 7:49 pm

Re: Illegal Immigration
 
Where's "Libia"?

mikelincs Apr 11th 2014 7:53 pm

Re: Illegal Immigration
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 11215605)
Where's "Libia"?

Maybe the first 'i' should have been an 'a' :rofl::rofl:

Maybe1day Apr 11th 2014 7:54 pm

Re: Illegal Immigration
 
Maybe but with what is happening in Melilla and Ceuta, Certainly Italy gets the Syrian/Somali immigrants but the bulk is Sub Saharan and East African. This is a European problem that isn't going away and with the forced softening of the Spanish attitude there will be a shift here especially as the distances/risks involved are much smaller.
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Rugbymatt
So I got a letter wrong should there be an "a" or a "y" ?

Maybe1day Apr 11th 2014 7:55 pm

Re: Illegal Immigration
 

Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 11215606)
Maybe the first 'i' should have been an 'a' :rofl::rofl:

Crossed in the post...

mikelincs Apr 11th 2014 7:57 pm

Re: Illegal Immigration
 

Originally Posted by Maybe1day (Post 11215607)
Maybe but with what is happening in Melilla and Ceuta, Certainly Italy gets the Syrian/Somali immigrants but the bulk is Sub Saharan and East African. This is a European problem that isn't going away and with the forced softening of the Spanish attitude there will be a shift here especially as the distances/risks involved are much smaller.
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Rugbymatt
So I got a letter wrong should there be an "a" or a "y" ?

Spain can accept as many as it likes, but please stop the bas*ards then coimg here to the UK. Moat countries would say the same, NIMBY.

rugbymatt Apr 11th 2014 7:57 pm

Re: Illegal Immigration
 

Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 11215606)
Maybe the first 'i' should have been an 'a' :rofl::rofl:

I still wouldn't know where that was..... Ahem.....

Domino Apr 11th 2014 9:05 pm

Re: Illegal Immigration
 

Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 11215609)
Spain can accept as many as it likes, but please stop the bas*ards then coimg here to the UK. Moat countries would say the same, NIMBY.

thats the problem - you can't stop them going to the UK once they have been allowed to land on mainland Europe.

last year there were really emotive pictures of young (20-40) men (no women, no children) with placards demanding that Cameron let them in. This was at Lampedusa and Sangatte, which shows their intent.

The Channel managed to keep the Germans at bay, just not so sure at these people who will travel all the way across the Med and Europe to claim Asylum when arriving in the UK.
The UK needs to start reading on the measures that have been put in place by other EU countries which are effective.

But remember, that at the other end of the world Australia has its own similar problems. They put all their EyeEye's onto an island for processing, causing all sorts of problems with the fluffy bunnies and their Human Rights twaddle.
:frown:

lutonlad Apr 11th 2014 10:59 pm

Re: Illegal Immigration
 

Originally Posted by Domino (Post 11215651)
thats the problem - you can't stop them going to the UK once they have been allowed to land on mainland Europe.

last year there were really emotive pictures of young (20-40) men (no women, no children) with placards demanding that Cameron let them in. This was at Lampedusa and Sangatte, which shows their intent.

The Channel managed to keep the Germans at bay, just not so sure at these people who will travel all the way across the Med and Europe to claim Asylum when arriving in the UK.
The UK needs to start reading on the measures that have been put in place by other EU countries which are effective.

But remember, that at the other end of the world Australia has its own similar problems. They put all their EyeEye's onto an island for processing, causing all sorts of problems with the fluffy bunnies and their Human Rights twaddle.
:frown:

I always chuckle at the UK's pathetic attempt to act macho at ports and airports. You know, the big UK BORDER signs and warnings that no doubt send shivers down the spine of any potential wrongdoer.

The fact remains - the UK is an attractive proposition for anyone planning to claim benefits, immigrants and Brits alike. How stupid for the EU to allow freedom of residence before ensuring that all countries welfare systems are in sync.

jackytoo Apr 12th 2014 12:36 am

Re: Illegal Immigration
 

Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 11215609)
Spain can accept as many as it likes, but please stop the bas*ards then coimg here to the UK. Moat countries would say the same, NIMBY.




Hey how did you get away with this:eek:

Some of us had a visit from the 3 stooges for milder posts than that.;):lol:...and I don't mean the Mods!

agoreira Apr 12th 2014 12:44 am

Re: Illegal Immigration
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 11215817)
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Hey how did you get away with this:eek:

Some of us had a visit from the 3 stooges for milder posts than that.;):lol:

:rofl: I think the three stooges has increased in numbers the last year, must be five or six now surely!;)
They probably worry you as much as they do me, not that I read many of them.

jackytoo Apr 12th 2014 12:50 am

Re: Illegal Immigration
 
I did think of another 2 as I clicked:D

EMR Apr 12th 2014 12:51 am

Re: Illegal Immigration
 
It is a serious issue, with 100, thousands of refugees from Syria, other conflicts and famines in Africa desperate to get into Europe.
Honestly unless the EU uses the miltary to close its borders in Southern Europe there is abolutley nothing anyone can do to prevent it.
Popularist politicians can rage against those in power but should even they be elected they will be just as helpless.

rugbymatt Apr 12th 2014 12:53 am

Re: Illegal Immigration
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 11215817)
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Hey how did you get away with this:eek:

Some of us had a visit from the 3 stooges for milder posts than that.;):lol:...and I don't mean the Mods!

You're not the brightest bulb in the box are you Jacky?


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