ID cards in Spain
Feb 15th 2010 | 2:06 am
#106
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From: Granada Costa
Re: ID cards in Spain
Thanks Adzil - that's really good feedback.
It does seem that if you were a full time, long term resident of Spain it would be pretty difficult to blag your way through the process - and rightly so.
Thanks again.
It does seem that if you were a full time, long term resident of Spain it would be pretty difficult to blag your way through the process - and rightly so.
Thanks again.
Feb 15th 2010 | 2:09 am
#107
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From: Granada Costa
Re: ID cards in Spain
Thanks for posting that. It seems that there may be a possibility for issue to non residents in the future - they clearly haven't locked the door.
Feb 15th 2010 | 2:20 am
#108
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Re: ID cards in Spain
Yes, people here and elsewhere overseas left the UK to emigrate of their own free will.
Even if they are fleeing from the law, debt, whatever, it was their decision.
As for their children, cats, dogs, canaries etc.....I don't think I would have been consulted at the age of, say, ten,by my parents if they had decided to move from Bradford to Birmingham, let alone to Benidorm.
But of course, that was in the bad old days when parents took decisions for their young offspring.
Feb 15th 2010 | 2:30 am
#109
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Re: ID cards in Spain
Yes we live here on our own free will. Because we want to, because we like it here, because our home is here.
So why must we be discriminated against? Not by the Spanish in particular, but by our fellow Brits who seem to want us to somehow shoulder some sort of blame for, what, running away?
So why must we be discriminated against? Not by the Spanish in particular, but by our fellow Brits who seem to want us to somehow shoulder some sort of blame for, what, running away?
Do you really feel so discriminated against?
I couldn't give the monkey's proverbials as to why people are here. We're here for all sorts of reasons. I'm here because I like the climate and it's cheaper to live in some style here on the CDS than in, say, Provence or Tuscany.I'm not fleeing debt, the law or anyone that I can think of, not even Gordon Brown.I do find it odd though that some people find so much to complain about.
Frankly, I don't know any other Brits here so I'm not into putting blame on anyone.
I came to Spain to live as unobtrusively as possible, to speak Spanish and fit in as best I can, although I accept I will always be a guiri.
Some people want a British lifestyle with sun.
As someone said ealier there's no law that says you must 'integrate'.
We all make our choices. People with time on their hands will get steamed up about trivial things wherever they may be.
It's harmless.
Feb 15th 2010 | 3:41 am
#110
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Re: ID cards in Spain
Only jesting; but not about the whinging bit. I hear we are trying to introduce it into the 2012 Olympics.
Jim
Feb 15th 2010 | 8:08 am
#111
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From: Puente Esuri
Re: ID cards in Spain
Spainrico this first paragraph is a masterpiece of the drafting art is says everything and nothing. The guy probably got his annual bonus for this one.
With regard to your enquiry, identity cards will be issued to those who are legally resident in the United Kingdom. British citizens living abroad will not be required to apply for a card. Although the Identity Cards Act 2006 is sufficiently flexible to enable British citizens resident overseas to register, there are no plans to do so in the early rollout stages of the Service.
The IPS would want the roll out to be a success the Daily Mail has taken agin just that and lots of folk also did not like a) the compulsory element (now dropped) and b) the rumoured £110-170 cost.
“will not be required†but then residents are not “required†either. “sufficiently flexible†if we don’t get the take up our political masters would like we will ask those to whom they would be useful and would want them to join in. Course they will have to solve the interview in London first.
Within a year or two they will use that flexability.
With regard to your enquiry, identity cards will be issued to those who are legally resident in the United Kingdom. British citizens living abroad will not be required to apply for a card. Although the Identity Cards Act 2006 is sufficiently flexible to enable British citizens resident overseas to register, there are no plans to do so in the early rollout stages of the Service.
The IPS would want the roll out to be a success the Daily Mail has taken agin just that and lots of folk also did not like a) the compulsory element (now dropped) and b) the rumoured £110-170 cost.
“will not be required†but then residents are not “required†either. “sufficiently flexible†if we don’t get the take up our political masters would like we will ask those to whom they would be useful and would want them to join in. Course they will have to solve the interview in London first.
Within a year or two they will use that flexability.
Feb 15th 2010 | 9:12 pm
#112
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From: Costa Blanca
Re: ID cards in Spain
Yes I think they are trying to leave themselves room for manoeuvre
Feb 16th 2010 | 12:59 am
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Re: ID cards in Spain
But I have on occasion reacted quite vociferously when upset so maybe that counts???
But you are right: there seems to be a lot of miserable old -and not so old-gits here.
Feb 16th 2010 | 1:51 am
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Re: ID cards in Spain
DSB.
Apr 26th 2010 | 7:20 am
#116
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Re: ID cards in Spain
Hi Fred
Right, I took the plunge and have done the interview for the card. Actually it wasn't very much of an interview at all, but let me explain about the form first.
The application form arrived in the post with a leaflet explaining how to fill it in, and a letter saying thank you for applying. The form looked daunting at first until I realised that lots of the categories don't apply to me (and I suspect most other people applying for a card). Irrelevant things it asks for include, for example, parent's details for applicants who don't have a British passport. As you have to have a British passport to get a card this question did seem a bit odd to me. Anyhow, mostly the information is what you would expect: name, address, previous addresses if you've not lived at your current address for more than five years, nationality, date of birth, your passport details etc. It also asks for a referee, and I presume this is the person they check with to see if you are who you say you are and it asks for a number they can be contacted on. Your referee has to be a current British or Irish passport holder too. Finally it asks you to tick a box saying which supporting document you've enclosed with the application. Again, if you're a UK citizen with a valid passport then that's all you need to bring.
Going along to the interview at the passport office was much less worry than I thought it would be. You go to the Passport Office in Victoria, and they direct you upstairs. I sat at reception with a pleasant woman, who checked I'd filled in my form properly and entered the details on her computer, and then she took my passport to check it. I then paid my 30 quid and was given a sheet of secret questions to choose answers from, so they can verify who I am if I lose my card. Next, after a short wait, it was into the enrollment room. That was a fairly quick process: they entered my secret answer questions and then I 'enrolled my biometrics' as the lady put it. In a nutshell this involved staring at a camera and a computer screen while it took my photo, and then putting my fingers and thumbs onto a scanner which copied my fingerprints. And that was it. Pretty painless. Back at reception they told me to expect my card in around ten days. I was in and out in about 20 mins.
I did ask about using it as a passport and they were very informative, as you might expect. It can be used instead of a passport in and EU or EEA country, and they said they had had a couple of problems with airlines not recognising them at first because they were so new, but they were all OK with it now.
All very efficient really.
Adzil
Right, I took the plunge and have done the interview for the card. Actually it wasn't very much of an interview at all, but let me explain about the form first.
The application form arrived in the post with a leaflet explaining how to fill it in, and a letter saying thank you for applying. The form looked daunting at first until I realised that lots of the categories don't apply to me (and I suspect most other people applying for a card). Irrelevant things it asks for include, for example, parent's details for applicants who don't have a British passport. As you have to have a British passport to get a card this question did seem a bit odd to me. Anyhow, mostly the information is what you would expect: name, address, previous addresses if you've not lived at your current address for more than five years, nationality, date of birth, your passport details etc. It also asks for a referee, and I presume this is the person they check with to see if you are who you say you are and it asks for a number they can be contacted on. Your referee has to be a current British or Irish passport holder too. Finally it asks you to tick a box saying which supporting document you've enclosed with the application. Again, if you're a UK citizen with a valid passport then that's all you need to bring.
Going along to the interview at the passport office was much less worry than I thought it would be. You go to the Passport Office in Victoria, and they direct you upstairs. I sat at reception with a pleasant woman, who checked I'd filled in my form properly and entered the details on her computer, and then she took my passport to check it. I then paid my 30 quid and was given a sheet of secret questions to choose answers from, so they can verify who I am if I lose my card. Next, after a short wait, it was into the enrollment room. That was a fairly quick process: they entered my secret answer questions and then I 'enrolled my biometrics' as the lady put it. In a nutshell this involved staring at a camera and a computer screen while it took my photo, and then putting my fingers and thumbs onto a scanner which copied my fingerprints. And that was it. Pretty painless. Back at reception they told me to expect my card in around ten days. I was in and out in about 20 mins.
I did ask about using it as a passport and they were very informative, as you might expect. It can be used instead of a passport in and EU or EEA country, and they said they had had a couple of problems with airlines not recognising them at first because they were so new, but they were all OK with it now.
All very efficient really.
Adzil
Apr 26th 2010 | 7:30 am
#117
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From: Costa Blanca
Re: ID cards in Spain
So - just to clarify - you qualified for getting cards by virtue of living in the Manchester 'trial' area then (sorry if this was mentioned earlier)
Apr 26th 2010 | 7:31 am
#118
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From: Benalmadena Pueblo,Spain
Re: ID cards in Spain
Well we have just received our new UK ID Cards process was just as described above having registered online for updates from the interview took about 6 days and they were delivered by courier. Fantastic they fit neatly in that clear film pocket in most wallets. No Pasports needed now from Iceland to Cape Verde, ROI to Ukraine what a bargin at £30 and will satisfy the GC in Spain and the GNR in Portugal!
Apr 26th 2010 | 7:32 am
#119
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From: Puente Esuri
Re: ID cards in Spain
No look at my Avatar it says Milton Keynes but if you register for more info regardless of your UK address you cn apply.
Dec 23rd 2010 | 9:01 am
#120
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From: Puente Esuri
Re: ID cards in Spain
Spainrico this first paragraph is a masterpiece of the drafting art is says everything and nothing. The guy probably got his annual bonus for this one.
With regard to your enquiry, identity cards will be issued to those who are legally resident in the United Kingdom. British citizens living abroad will not be required to apply for a card. Although the Identity Cards Act 2006 is sufficiently flexible to enable British citizens resident overseas to register, there are no plans to do so in the early rollout stages of the Service.
The IPS would want the roll out to be a success the Daily Mail has taken agin just that and lots of folk also did not like a) the compulsory element (now dropped) and b) the rumoured £110-170 cost.
“will not be required†but then residents are not “required†either. “sufficiently flexible†if we don’t get the take up our political masters would like we will ask those to whom they would be useful and would want them to join in. Course they will have to solve the interview in London first.
Within a year or two they will use that flexability.
With regard to your enquiry, identity cards will be issued to those who are legally resident in the United Kingdom. British citizens living abroad will not be required to apply for a card. Although the Identity Cards Act 2006 is sufficiently flexible to enable British citizens resident overseas to register, there are no plans to do so in the early rollout stages of the Service.
The IPS would want the roll out to be a success the Daily Mail has taken agin just that and lots of folk also did not like a) the compulsory element (now dropped) and b) the rumoured £110-170 cost.
“will not be required†but then residents are not “required†either. “sufficiently flexible†if we don’t get the take up our political masters would like we will ask those to whom they would be useful and would want them to join in. Course they will have to solve the interview in London first.
Within a year or two they will use that flexability.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/t...cards-RIP.html
so endeth our daliance with ID cards. Wonder how long it will take for our little corner of Andalucia to become aware that the card which I can keep is no longer valid. Years I would think so except for really official stuff I think I shall get my £30's worth.
