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Re: I dont believe it
Originally Posted by steviedeluxe
(Post 8503003)
I'm not so sure that the election result will change the value of the pound in the long run. I remember the early 80s when the stock exchange used to surge whenever the Tories won an election, but then slumped again a few weeks later when it became apparent the economy was still struggling.
Edit: the next government (even if it's Conservative) may try to keep the pound at a low level to help the economy. All those tourists flying over (volcanoes permitting) to shop in London may stop doing so if the exchange rate suddenly changes I am quite sure that these 3 are not the only examples of Brits, who would vote against all their principles, bacause they can ·gain" in some way, and not care about their countrymen back in the UK. From what I can gather these were high earners and stauch Tory voters, when they lived in the UK. And probably would still vote Tory if they still lived there. It seems such a shame to me that they are willing to sell their soul for money. |
Re: I dont believe it
Originally Posted by JLFS
(Post 8503015)
The point I was trying to make, was that some voters who live outside the UK have the right to decide on who governs the UK, a country that they have left behind.
I am quite sure that these 3 are not the only examples of Brits, who would vote against all their principles, bacause they can ·gain" in some way, and not care about their countrymen back in the UK. From what I can gather these were high earners and stauch Tory voters, when they lived in the UK. And probably would still vote Tory if they still lived there. It seems such a shame to me that they are willing to sell their soul for money. |
Re: I dont believe it
Maybe they should only allow people who pay taxes to have a vote...what do you think:huh:
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Re: I dont believe it
Originally Posted by steviedeluxe
(Post 8503024)
Well you have a point, but if people have British citizenship, and have paid taxes there (even if no longer) then they have the right to vote. To a certain extent I think most people vote according to whether they think they, and their families, are going to be better off, or not.
But to me is seems a tragedy, that a Brit living abroad would vote for a party that they think is bad for the country on the whole, but because they can get some financial gain, they adopt the "-I am alright Jack" attitude. People can do the wrong things for the right reason, but this is doing the worng thing for the wrong reason, a world of difference. |
Re: I dont believe it
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 8503041)
Maybe they should only allow people who pay taxes to have a vote...what do you think:huh:
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Re: I dont believe it
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 8503041)
Maybe they should only allow people who pay taxes to have a vote...what do you think:huh:
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Re: I dont believe it
Talking about the exchange rate again, I can’t remember exactly why it fell from 1.50 to 1.10 against the pound. On that basis, and it was at 1.50 for many years, why hasn’t it gone up again?
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Re: I dont believe it
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 8503041)
Maybe they should only allow people who pay taxes to have a vote...what do you think:huh:
Originally Posted by steviedeluxe
(Post 8503056)
Everyone in the country pays taxes - every time they buy something in the shops, have a beer in a pub, or put petrol in the car.
Of course everybody who spends a penny in the UK pays tax, Like peole do all over the world, in America if I buy something I pay the equivalent of their VAT, but I would not dream of suggesing that I should be entitled to vote there. It is just splitting hairs, we all know what the post meant, or should know... |
Re: I dont believe it
Originally Posted by JLFS
(Post 8503107)
I think you have missed the point Jackytoo was making,
Of course everybody who spends a penny in the UK pays tax, Like peole do all over the world, in America if I buy something I pay the equivalent of their VAT, but I would not dream of suggesing that I should be entitled to vote there. It is just splitting hairs, we all know what the post meant, or should know... |
Re: I dont believe it
Originally Posted by HBG
(Post 8503133)
I pay all sorts of taxes in Spain, wealth, suma, car tax, Vado, and I have a local vote which I’ve used.
It makes sense to have a vote in the country that you live, because that vote ccan affect the way you live, voting in a country you no longer inhabit affect the lives of others. |
Re: I dont believe it
Originally Posted by JLFS
(Post 8503107)
I think you have missed the point Jackytoo was making,
Of course everybody who spends a penny in the UK pays tax, Like peole do all over the world, in America if I buy something I pay the equivalent of their VAT, but I would not dream of suggesing that I should be entitled to vote there. It is just splitting hairs, we all know what the post meant, or should know... |
Re: I dont believe it
Originally Posted by steviedeluxe
(Post 8503163)
Tell us then, the point Jackytoo is making, if it's not restricting the vote to someone who "pays taxes"? Seemed fairly straightforward to me, but I accept I'm missing something here.
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Re: I dont believe it
Well I still think that having the vote in national elections, should be restricted to citizens of that country. If your allegiance to a country doesn't stretch to taking up citizenship, you shouldn't be entitled to vote for their government. In the opposite case, where someone is out of the country, it does get a little hazier. There again they are still bound to their country, and I assume that they (for example) would have to fight for their country if there was conscription in war-time, so yes they should keep the right to vote. I admit I'm not 100% convinced of this however, but I don't see a better way. How do you monitor if someone's made enough contribution to vote? That Ashcroft fella (chairman of the Conservatives) doesn't pay any UK taxes, but I don't see why his vote should be taken away from him, unless he did something that harmed Britain.
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Re: I dont believe it
Originally Posted by steviedeluxe
(Post 8503203)
Well I still think that having the vote in national elections, should be restricted to citizens of that country. If your allegiance to a country doesn't stretch to taking up citizenship, you shouldn't be entitled to vote for their government. In the opposite case, where someone is out of the country, it does get a little hazier. There again they are still bound to their country, and I assume that they (for example) would have to fight for their country if there was conscription in war-time, so yes they should keep the right to vote. I admit I'm not 100% convinced of this however, but I don't see a better way. How do you monitor if someone's made enough contribution to vote? That Ashcroft fella (chairman of the Conservatives) doesn't pay any UK taxes, but I don't see why his vote should be taken away from him, unless he did something that harmed Britain.
I feel that only citizens living in the úk should have a right to vote in elections. I dont think it is right for a preson who has moved on to pastures new, has a say in how the folks left behind should live. If you move back there, then you get the vote again. |
Re: I dont believe it
Originally Posted by JLFS
(Post 8503213)
I feel that only citizens living in the úk should have a right to vote in elections.
I dont think it is right for a preson who has moved on to pastures new, has a say in how the folks left behind should live. If you move back there, then you get the vote again. |
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