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Old May 22nd 2022, 6:38 am
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I am a resident of Spain, my mum 86 years old wants to come and live with me, I own a house and she or I are not dependent on each other at the moment
what do I do

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I am a resident of Spain, my mum 86 years old wants to come and live with me, I own a house and she or I are not dependent on each other at the moment
what do I do
I have changed the title of your thread in order to gain attention. Using a name is not suitable or advisable.

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As far as I know, she will have to apply for a Non Lucrative visa - assuming she has no rights/access to an EU passport (ie Irish)

Suggest you research here and start the process.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/living-in-spain
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I am a resident of Spain, my mum 86 years old wants to come and live with me, I own a house and she or I are not dependent on each other at the moment
what do I do
As a UK passport holder your mum will need to apply for a non lucrative visa. She will need to meet the income and healthcare requirements. The income requirements are to have an income of around €28,000 per annum. She will also need full private healthcare for the first year then go onto the S1 healthcare scheme.

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Unless you were to become a Spanish citizen your mum if uk national will, as stated above need a NLV. This is possible but would require your mother to either prove she has available funds in Spain which I think is around 30,000 euros of a monthly income ( pension) of around 2,500 euros. She would need private medical insurance to obtain said visa which at 80 plus would be quite high. TBH I really don't think that moving to Spain at that age where health will be a primary concern is a good idea unless you can afford to pay for good private healthcare which will be delivered in English.
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Originally Posted by Mymum
I am a resident of Spain, my mum 86 years old wants to come and live with me, I own a house and she or I are not dependent on each other at the moment
what do I do

According to this.

https://balcellsgroup.com/residence-...tion-in-spain/

There is a family reunification visa you could apply for.

From scanning the text, you would need to be a permanent resident (i.e. over 5 years), your mother must be financially dependant on you (i.e. you transfer money regularly to her and can prove this).

But it would need looking into as there are quite a few hoops and if you are not working your mother will still need full private healthcare, which may be expensive (or not doable if she has medical issues).

Hopefully you can sort this one way or another.


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Just let her come out for 90 days at a time. More than enough time. Not a chance would i spend 30+ k on a NLV to live in Spain.
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Just let her come out for 90 days at a time. More than enough time. Not a chance would i spend 30+ k on a NLV to live in Spain.
I think you are perhaps being a bit misleading. You make it sound like it costs 30k to get a visa. The 30k is the money you are expected to live off while in Spain. I imagine the OP mum at 86 living with her daughter would probably be able to live off her UK pension in such a situation meaning the 30,000 probably wouldn't need to be touched
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Originally Posted by Ronnyone
I think you are perhaps being a bit misleading. You make it sound like it costs 30k to get a visa. The 30k is the money you are expected to live off while in Spain. I imagine the OP mum at 86 living with her daughter would probably be able to live off her UK pension in such a situation meaning the 30,000 probably wouldn't need to be touched
But would her UK government pension amount to requirement level?

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But would her UK government pension amount to requirement level?

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No what I mean is that maybe she could deposit the 30k in an account but not actually need to use it but live off the uk pension.
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No what I mean is that maybe she could deposit the 30k in an account but not actually need to use it but live off the uk pension.
Sounds like far to much messing about. As long as flights are cheap I think it would be better and easier to fly in and out Willy Nilly and keep things simple. Don’t the Spainish want to tax you on that amount of money?. Things are not what they were in Spain anymore everything is a headache. It’s lost that relaxed and care free vibe that it used to have pre brexit / covid. There are other easier and cheaper countries for this British expats/immigrants to move to in this day and age.
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Originally Posted by Stingychips
Sounds like far to much messing about. As long as flights are cheap I think it would be better and easier to fly in and out Willy Nilly and keep things simple. Don’t the Spainish want to tax you on that amount of money?. Things are not what they were in Spain anymore everything is a headache. It’s lost that relaxed and care free vibe that it used to have pre brexit / covid. There are other easier and cheaper countries for this British expats/immigrants to move to in this day and age.
Spain does not tax you on money held in the bank (unless you are over the wealth tax threshold) - only on income derived from it. We lived on our savings for the first eight years in Spain and paid no tax at all - I had an appointment with Hacienda the year after we became tax resident so that I could make a zero tax return and they told me not to bother and just to come back once we had started to receive our pensions.
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Originally Posted by Stingychips
Sounds like far to much messing about. As long as flights are cheap I think it would be better and easier to fly in and out Willy Nilly and keep things simple. Don’t the Spainish want to tax you on that amount of money?. Things are not what they were in Spain anymore everything is a headache. It’s lost that relaxed and care free vibe that it used to have pre brexit / covid. There are other easier and cheaper countries for this British expats/immigrants to move to in this day and age.
An 86 year old is hardly likely to wish to be flying to and fro willy nilly.

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Originally Posted by Stingychips
Sounds like far to much messing about. As long as flights are cheap I think it would be better and easier to fly in and out Willy Nilly and keep things simple. Don’t the Spainish want to tax you on that amount of money?. Things are not what they were in Spain anymore everything is a headache. It’s lost that relaxed and care free vibe that it used to have pre brexit / covid. There are other easier and cheaper countries for this British expats/immigrants to move to in this day and age.
Probably best that anyone who thinks it's a headache here goes to one of the other easier and cheaper countries then.
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Originally Posted by Lynn R
Spain does not tax you on money held in the bank (unless you are over the wealth tax threshold) - only on income derived from it. We lived on our savings for the first eight years in Spain and paid no tax at all - I had an appointment with Hacienda the year after we became tax resident so that I could make a zero tax return and they told me not to bother and just to come back once we had started to receive our pensions.
so do you not get taxed on money that’s needed for your NLV? Also see a lot of people on Other social media platforms that had their NLV rejected.
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