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linda Coyle Jul 10th 2008 7:06 pm

House alarm costs?
 
Can anyone tell me roughly what to expect for a house alarm? If it helps there is pre-install for the alarm, house all on one level, 3 bedroom/2 bathrooms. thanks in advance for any replies

bil Jul 10th 2008 7:10 pm

Re: House alarm costs?
 
O god.

Just get a dog.

We had to have one fitted as a condition of insurance in the UK, and never have I regretted a purchase less. Complicated, needing service and checks all too often, and with a distressing habit of going off in the wee small hours for no good reason. All too often I was jerked awake after a couple of hours sleep and had to run and switch it off (such fun remembering the code and correct sequence in the middle of the night with my nervous system feeling that it had been stimulated by a cattle prod.

To this day the sound of an alarm going gets me in a cold sweat.

I can't remember the cost, but it was enough to make me wince.

linda Coyle Jul 10th 2008 7:14 pm

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Thanks Bil, don't know why you bothered to reply - I was asking for rough prices. I have an alarm in the uk - no problems - so obviously there was a fault with yours. Not much good having a dog in the house if it is lying empty for a few months!!!

jurdyr Jul 10th 2008 7:15 pm

Re: House alarm costs?
 
dog are dogs why it gose off in the middle off the night is the change off heat in the place as it cools down
wireless alrams becareful off the next door and wifi in you house aswell

WHO LET THE DOGS OUT

join loacl gun club ......! keeps all away even the mates ! :thumbsup:

jurdyr Jul 10th 2008 7:17 pm

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Originally Posted by linda Coyle (Post 6557729)
Thanks Bil, don't know why you bothered to reply - I was asking for rough prices. I have an alarm in the uk - no problems - so obviously there was a fault with yours. Not much good having a dog in the house if it is lying empty for a few months!!!

price start from 700 euros up in Alc area try get spanish guy to do it there cheaper and get Alarm Monitoring Service no good if keep going off and you next door are going mad ,,,,,

bil Jul 10th 2008 8:56 pm

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Originally Posted by linda Coyle (Post 6557729)
Thanks Bil, don't know why you bothered to reply - I was asking for rough prices. I have an alarm in the uk - no problems - so obviously there was a fault with yours. Not much good having a dog in the house if it is lying empty for a few months!!!

Well, it was partly humerous, but trying to identify a real problem with any such system. I imagine a system that goes off for any reason with you in another country could cause you a deal of grief. Unless you can of course purchase the perfect system.

I'm curious as to why your insurance system insists on one? Again, I'm unimpressed with a lot of them. A squirt of builder's foam renders a lot of them useless anyway.

Do you actually want one or are there other insurance companies that don't insist on one?

linda Coyle Jul 10th 2008 9:04 pm

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Originally Posted by bil (Post 6558122)
Well, it was partly humerous, but trying to identify a real problem with any such system. I imagine a system that goes off for any reason with you in another country could cause you a deal of grief. Unless you can of course purchase the perfect system.

I'm curious as to why your insurance system insists on one? Again, I'm unimpressed with a lot of them. A squirt of builder's foam renders a lot of them useless anyway.

Do you actually want one or are there other insurance companies that don't insist on one?

Did I say insurance had insisted on an alarm? Does it really matter why I want an alarm? I thought this site was for help and advice from people who had experiences. I simply asked a rough idea as too cost - wish I hadn't bothered now!!

bil Jul 10th 2008 9:21 pm

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Originally Posted by linda Coyle (Post 6558160)
Did I say insurance had insisted on an alarm? Does it really matter why I want an alarm? I thought this site was for help and advice from people who had experiences. I simply asked a rough idea as too cost - wish I hadn't bothered now!!

Sounds good to me.:thumbup:

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

shortcircuit Jul 10th 2008 9:36 pm

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Lynda

Is this to keep the elephants out? (Local joke that will baffell the XPs)

In Fife we charge about £300, however if you include the air fare, accomodation, etc, Im sure we could do it for about £50

linda Coyle Jul 10th 2008 9:39 pm

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Originally Posted by bil (Post 6558246)
Sounds good to me.:thumbup:

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Try using the door yourself once in a while, in fact, better still, keep it shut

Fred James Jul 10th 2008 9:51 pm

Re: House alarm costs?
 

Originally Posted by linda Coyle (Post 6557698)
Can anyone tell me roughly what to expect for a house alarm? If it helps there is pre-install for the alarm, house all on one level, 3 bedroom/2 bathrooms. thanks in advance for any replies

Linda, it will depend on whether you want a proper monitored system or just a simple alarm.

Monitored systems are more expensive because you have to pay for the monitoring service but at least you know that someone will do something if the alarm goes off.

We have a system from Prosegur who are the largest security company in Spain. For 6 detectors we paid around €500 and the service costs €30/month.

Pre installation doesn't make a lot of difference to the cost as if they use wires they push them through the existing conduit system and hang the detectors on the junction box covers. If they can't do that they use wireless detectors.

Non monitored systems can cost whatever you want to pay - some people get DIY ones and do it themselves but, frankly, they are potentially a waste of time as it is probable that no one will take much notice - a large dog is more effective. The monitored systems also have fire detectors and panic/medical buttons to summon help in an emergency. They are serviced and tested once a year. You can also have a mobile phone connection built in so that if the phone line is cut they will still work.

Hope that helps.

linda Coyle Jul 10th 2008 9:55 pm

Re: House alarm costs?
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 6558384)
Linda, it will depend on whether you want a proper monitored system or just a simple alarm.

Monitored systems are more expensive because you have to pay for the monitoring service but at least you know that someone will do something if the alarm goes off.

We have a system from Prosegur who are the largest security company in Spain. For 6 detectors we paid around €500 and the service costs €30/month.

Pre installation doesn't make a lot of difference to the cost as if they use wires they push them through the existing conduit system and hang the detectors on the junction box covers. If they can't do that they use wireless detectors.

Non monitored systems can cost whatever you want to pay - some people get DIY ones and do it themselves but, frankly, they are potentially a waste of time as it is probable that no one will take much notice - a large dog is more effective. The monitored systems also have fire detectors and panic/medical buttons to summon help in an emergency. They are serviced and tested once a year. You can also have a mobile phone connection built in so that if the phone line is cut they will still work.

Hope that helps.

Thankyou Fred, a sensible answer at last, just what i was asking for

battlezone123 Jul 11th 2008 1:36 am

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Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 6558384)
Linda, it will depend on whether you want a proper monitored system or just a simple alarm.

Monitored systems are more expensive because you have to pay for the monitoring service but at least you know that someone will do something if the alarm goes off.

We have a system from Prosegur who are the largest security company in Spain. For 6 detectors we paid around €500 and the service costs €30/month.

Pre installation doesn't make a lot of difference to the cost as if they use wires they push them through the existing conduit system and hang the detectors on the junction box covers. If they can't do that they use wireless detectors.

Non monitored systems can cost whatever you want to pay - some people get DIY ones and do it themselves but, frankly, they are potentially a waste of time as it is probable that no one will take much notice - a large dog is more effective. The monitored systems also have fire detectors and panic/medical buttons to summon help in an emergency. They are serviced and tested once a year. You can also have a mobile phone connection built in so that if the phone line is cut they will still work.

Hope that helps.

Hi Fred

Do you know if this company operates in the campo. I am about 12kms from the nearest town, and even though I have thought about an alarm system, as no one lives near me no one would hear it go off so it would have to be monitored. Also having "monitored" fire detectors would make me feel alot safer. At the moment when we go away we have friends who come and baby sit the house.

Casa Santo Estevo Jul 11th 2008 7:53 am

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Battlezone, the problem with alarms fitted to houses in the campo, like ours, is that if the line (either the electric or phone) gets hit by lighting the box blows up. This sort of damage is not covered by insurance, although ours insists we have one. So it is a big bill every time it is damaged.
Our advice is not to have one fitted unless you really need it.

Rotor Jul 11th 2008 8:19 am

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Originally Posted by Casa Santo Estevo (Post 6559473)
Battlezone, the problem with alarms fitted to houses in the campo, like ours, is that if the line (either the electric or phone) gets hit by lighting the box blows up. This sort of damage is not covered by insurance, although ours insists we have one. So it is a big bill every time it is damaged.
Our advice is not to have one fitted unless you really need it.

Yep,Alarms in the campo would be of little use in most situations, radio signals are unreliable as are land lines, if neighbors hear anything youd be lucky to get the police out in less than an hour, nasty dogs are an excellent deterrent but not for me, my trusty pump action deters any would be intruder while we are at home ,a decent safe makes it impossible to get at lesser valuables for your average thief,most banks offer a deposit box service for high value items.

Rgds

Rotor


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