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Old Jan 14th 2013, 6:41 am
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Alfredo Rubalcaba, the beardy from the PSOE, wants to ask the other political parties in Spain to agree to an intention to stop corruption within their ranks. Corruption, says Rubalcaba, has opened a terrible wound in la democracia española.
An odd story as the PSOE is noted for its high levels of corruption - both nationally, regionally and (above all) at a local level. My opinion is that corruption and self-improvement are rampant in the game of politics. At least, in conservative parties (where the accent is on capital, wealth and profit) it is something to be expected. However, socialism is loosely defined as 'helping share out the riches with everyone'. Not in Spain though. How many rags to riches socialistas have there been?
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isn't "Honest Politics" a good example of an oxymoron ?
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Alfredo Rubalcaba, the beardy from the PSOE, wants to ask the other political parties in Spain to agree to an intention to stop corruption within their ranks. Corruption, says Rubalcaba, has opened a terrible wound in la democracia española.
An odd story as the PSOE is noted for its high levels of corruption - both nationally, regionally and (above all) at a local level. My opinion is that corruption and self-improvement are rampant in the game of politics. At least, in conservative parties (where the accent is on capital, wealth and profit) it is something to be expected. However, socialism is loosely defined as 'helping share out the riches with everyone'. Not in Spain though. How many rags to riches socialistas have there been?
oddly reminds me of a gangster film I recently watched.
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I've found at local level at least, politics is less about parties and ideologies, and more about personalities and what side your family was on in the war. So we get PP mayors forming coalitions with the IU and vice versa, PSOE mayors getting into bed with right wing capitalists, and so forth. There are good guys and bad guys in all parties. Normal rules don't apply!
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isn't "Honest Politics" a good example of an oxymoron ?
+1

Like the old saying, 'how can you tell a politician in lying' 'their lips move'
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Originally Posted by Domino
isn't "Honest Politics" a good example of an oxymoron ?
True,

Bit of a shock to the system to see those two words side by side so I just had to check it out.

Just more hot air and pie in the sky I fancy, though I do confess to becoming more cynical with every passing day for some strange reason.
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Spain is leaving the euro in 2014, well according to this.
http://www.elconfidencial.com/mercad...ar-empleo-8054
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It could do much worse.
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Fitch, the credit ratings agency, are saying today that unless Spain takes a bailout it will have to consider reducing its credit rating.

I guess the Christmas Break is now over.
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Originally Posted by agoreira
Spain is leaving the euro in 2014, well according to this.
http://www.elconfidencial.com/mercad...ar-empleo-8054
Here's the ENGLISH TRANSLATION.
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Interview with Rajoy in the FT. States yet again that the second half of 2013 will see the recovery, and that 2014 will be even better.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4304f0ba-5...#axzz2I7msIirr
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Interview with Rajoy in the FT. States yet again that the second half of 2013 will see the recovery, and that 2014 will be even better.

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He is a politician, his lips moved therefore it is a lie.
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Originally Posted by steviedeluxe
Interview with Rajoy in the FT. States yet again that the second half of 2013 will see the recovery, and that 2014 will be even better.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4304f0ba-5...#axzz2I7msIirr
Can't view the FT, don't have a subscription.

Better for who???
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If they do leave I hope they are made to give back all the money they have taken out.
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If they do leave I hope they are made to give back all the money they have taken out.
Ha ha, fat chance of that !
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