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Old Jul 6th 2013 | 5:38 pm
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23213740

I bet he is hoping Jordan are better than Spain at honouring treaties
 
Old Jul 6th 2013 | 5:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Fredbargate
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23213740

I bet he is hoping Jordan are better than Spain at honouring treaties
Jordan must have something special .... She gets all the 'nice blokes'

Needless to say good riddance to him. All those millions spent and the publicity he got as well, as we protected his 'rights'
 
Old Jul 6th 2013 | 5:51 pm
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Will his family follow him to Jordan to support him? (As in his trial as opposed to the financial support they get here)
 
Old Jul 6th 2013 | 5:58 pm
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Originally Posted by johnnyone
Will his family follow him to Jordan to support him? (As in his trial as opposed to the financial support they get here)
Hopefully along with all his friends and admirers.
 
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About time too.

The neighbours of the family are threatening to stop paying the council tax until the whole family of his are moved.
 
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Personally, I would not care if they were waiting for him on the tarmac at Amman airport, thumbscrews at the ready. Not our problem.
 
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Yes Lynn unfortunately he and others have ran rings around our country with the assistance of the Human Rights Act and Judges. At least they have finally managed to get rid of him . She is not my favoutite Home Secretary but she has in this instance finally got rid of him, where others failed so well done to her and her advisors for that. Next problem is his hangers on.
 
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You can't argue that it was ridiculous that this affair has taken ten years, but I think it was our own appeals system to blame rather than the Human Rights Act. The Europeans gave us the right to deport the guy many years ago, but every time his lawyers found another loop hole in our system.

He seemed to have a genuine smile on his face when his plane touched down in Jordan, which makes me wonder.
 
Old Jul 7th 2013 | 7:04 pm
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Originally Posted by bobd22
Yes Lynn unfortunately he and others have ran rings around our country with the assistance of the Human Rights Act and Judges. At least they have finally managed to get rid of him . She is not my favoutite Home Secretary but she has in this instance finally got rid of him, where others failed so well done to her and her advisors for that. Next problem is his hangers on.
The goverment cant claim a win ..he left of his own accord..
 
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Originally Posted by bobd22
Yes Lynn unfortunately he and others have ran rings around our country with the assistance of the Human Rights Act and Judges. At least they have finally managed to get rid of him . She is not my favoutite Home Secretary but she has in this instance finally got rid of him, where others failed so well done to her and her advisors for that. Next problem is his hangers on.
the problem with the hangers-on is that some/most have taken advantage (or is it just plain exploited) the open handed British system for giving people nationality and are now British.

there should be a way of taking away someone's nationality but fluffy bunnies won't allow that because everyone has to have one. but then many still have valid passports for other countries which are seen with more suspicion than British in a number of states.

and then there are all the "innocent" wives, partners, children etc who are living on social security benefits who cannot be removed at all.

although there are precedents in living memory, not many of us want to go back to those days.
 
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Originally Posted by tommy.irene
The goverment cant claim a win ..he left of his own accord..
All credit to the Govt for sticking to their guns and seeing the job through.
At the end of the day he realized that his only option to avoid the humiliation of being lead away in cuffs was to leave quietly.

I don't think the Jordanians will give him kid glove treatment either, he was charged with terrorist offences within hours of his arrival.
 
Old Jul 7th 2013 | 9:11 pm
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Originally Posted by HBG
but every time his lawyers found another loop hole in our system.
To feather their own nests
 
Old Jul 7th 2013 | 9:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Fredbargate
To feather their own nests
it seems like it, but think that has to be balanced against their ensuring that they test all elements of the laws being used. hopefully people will learn from their probing.
those who have drafted some recent laws have left a few gaping holes ripe for exploitation

at least you know who to call on if you should ever end up being charged with similar offences
 
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Originally Posted by tommy.irene
The goverment cant claim a win ..he left of his own accord..
Although it was a "private" aircraft it isn't normal for people to go of their own accord from RAF Northolt under such conditions
It is unlikely he paid for the aircraft - we will get the bill especially as he had a lawyer, pshychiatrist and doctor with him as well as any police or security people.

However, it must be said that from the video footage he went calmly and with dignity with one minder rather than a phalanx of armed police.
 
Old Jul 7th 2013 | 10:15 pm
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Originally Posted by tommy.irene
The goverment cant claim a win ..he left of his own accord..
Theresa May was very quick to claim the "credit"

I thought this was interestinghttp://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/defence...ueen-hamza-bbc
 


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