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lunacrout Oct 2nd 2010 6:53 pm

Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 
Our car radiator is overheating - has anyone bought Radweld out here &, if so, where?

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jdr Oct 2nd 2010 7:33 pm

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 

Originally Posted by lunacrout (Post 8891669)
Our car radiator is overheating - has anyone bought Radweld out here &, if so, where?

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It`s not radweld but they sell similar in most garages, but I would try and get it repaired properly.

lunacrout Oct 2nd 2010 7:41 pm

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 
Thanks - do you know what it's called?

jdr Oct 2nd 2010 7:50 pm

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 

Originally Posted by lunacrout (Post 8891721)
Thanks - do you know what it's called?

Not sure, but looks like you can get radweld too, HERE

lunacrout Oct 2nd 2010 8:01 pm

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 
Thanks :thumbsup:

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licinius Oct 2nd 2010 8:26 pm

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 
Overheating or leaking? Radweld won't stop your engine overheating, it just repairs leaks in your radiator.

Chances are if your overheating it's a very simple fault to repair, i.e. just bleeding the system or fitting a new thermostat.

lunacrout Oct 2nd 2010 9:29 pm

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 
Well - we did keep topping up the water for the past couple of days and after an hour's run yesterday it was empty again with steam appearing over the bonnet - so it's worth a try :)

rugbymatt Oct 2nd 2010 10:00 pm

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 
Shit in your radiator.... or crack an egg in it....

lunacrout Oct 2nd 2010 10:07 pm

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 
I think Id rather try the radweld thanks :unsure:

rugbymatt Oct 2nd 2010 10:09 pm

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 

Originally Posted by lunacrout (Post 8891910)
I think Id rather try the radweld thanks :unsure:

Thats what many of these radweld type things are. I know one of the commercial ones are human shit while the SAS use the egg method.

VFR Oct 3rd 2010 6:07 am

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 

Originally Posted by lunacrout (Post 8891850)
Well - we did keep topping up the water for the past couple of days and after an hour's run yesterday it was empty again with steam appearing over the bonnet - so it's worth a try :)

You really need to find out why its overheating !
Is it leaking out via a hose/union ?, if so easy to repair.
Is the radiator leaking ?, if so a bit more costly to repair.
Yes radweld can give you a temporary repair for the above, but its not a cure.

Thermostats are often faulty but rare to fail in the closed position.

No evidence of a leak ?, then then it may be going out via the exhaust because of a blown head gasket/cracked head/cracked block depending on just what engine type & mileage you vehicle has.
Have you checked the oil level ?, is it turning milky ?, is it rising up the dipstick ?

Bigger Jim Oct 3rd 2010 6:21 am

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 8891914)
Thats what many of these radweld type things are. I know one of the commercial ones are human shit while the SAS use the egg method.

I know people used to recommend using eggs in the 1950s but even then they weren't recommended by many as proprietary products were widely available.

They weren't "extracting the urine" were they, as squaddies do tend to do that.

However I must admit to trying eggs once. I seem to recall it doing more harm than good but then; any port in a storm.

Jim

lunacrout Oct 3rd 2010 6:58 am

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 

Originally Posted by playamonte (Post 8892353)
You really need to find out why its overheating !
Is it leaking out via a hose/union ?, if so easy to repair.
Is the radiator leaking ?, if so a bit more costly to repair.
Yes radweld can give you a temporary repair for the above, but its not a cure.

Thermostats are often faulty but rare to fail in the closed position.

No evidence of a leak ?, then then it may be going out via the exhaust because of a blown head gasket/cracked head/cracked block depending on just what engine type & mileage you vehicle has.
Have you checked the oil level ?, is it turning milky ?, is it rising up the dipstick ?

Thanks for that :thumbup:

Will get OH to go through your checklist when he finally rises from his Sunday morning lie-in - I'm not going to get my fair hands dirty ;)

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Bomber Harris Oct 3rd 2010 10:58 am

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 8891903)
Shit in your radiator........

Wouldn't you burn your bum?

bfg69bug Oct 3rd 2010 2:22 pm

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 
radweld you can get in any car spares shop, or most garages if you need it today.

but i´d try and find out where the waters going. fill it up, leave it running on the driveway, see where its coming out. if its not leaking, as said above...might be the head gasket.

to test this - there *might* be water in the oil, take the cap off and see if the oil is milky / like mayonaise. or, check the oil level after a while and see if its gone up. or, open the water bottle for the radiator and see if the water is bubbling. (do this when the car is cold! hot steam strips skin. ive seen it happen.)

Rotor Oct 4th 2010 8:10 am

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 

Originally Posted by lunacrout (Post 8891669)
Our car radiator is overheating - has anyone bought Radweld out here &, if so, where?

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Radweld and any other miricle cure is only a "get you home" fix , not permanente , if the rad is leaking visualy buy a new one or you will damage the cylinder head/ gasket , if the water is "just disapearing" the the head gasket has probabley already gone , driving the car like this will destroy the engine in a very short time.

Bigger Jim Oct 4th 2010 10:49 am

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 

Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 8894229)
Radweld and any other miricle cure is only a "get you home" fix , not permanente , if the rad is leaking visualy buy a new one or you will damage the cylinder head/ gasket , if the water is "just disapearing" the the head gasket has probabley already gone , driving the car like this will destroy the engine in a very short time.

You can get them repaired or recored which is particularily useful if you have an obscure make of car, in any case they should normally be cheaper than a new one.

Jim

Rotor Oct 4th 2010 11:14 am

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Originally Posted by Bigger Jim (Post 8894476)
You can get them repaired or recored which is particularily useful if you have an obscure make of car, in any case they should normally be cheaper than a new one.

Jim


Not if it has plastic header tanks and most modern cars have.

Bigger Jim Oct 4th 2010 4:38 pm

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Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 8894525)
Not if it has plastic header tanks and most modern cars have.

Because I've never had a car with a radiator with a plastic tank I Googled away and found loads of dealers who would repair, replace and/or rebuild, There were also articles on DIY repairs which called for a measure of skill. Obviously can't comment but would certainly make some enquiries as to whether or not there were garages in my area that could make the appropriate repair.

Must be I'm a cheap old git.

Jim

Rotor Oct 5th 2010 7:50 am

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 

Originally Posted by Bigger Jim (Post 8895077)
Because I've never had a car with a radiator with a plastic tank I Googled away and found loads of dealers who would repair, replace and/or rebuild, There were also articles on DIY repairs which called for a measure of skill. Obviously can't comment but would certainly make some enquiries as to whether or not there were garages in my area that could make the appropriate repair.

Must be I'm a cheap old git.

Jim

Guess you may be:rofl::rofl:

Im in the trade and have never known any garage or mechanic to mess around with a plastic header tank as its not worth it , if it fails you can destroy an engine in around 3 minutes:eek:a new rad would only be 20 to 30 euro more if you could buy the core on its own, I`d hazard a guess that 95% of cars today use plastic headers , these crack as well as core failure.:thumbdown:

Bigger Jim Oct 5th 2010 12:01 pm

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 

Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 8896606)
Guess you may be:rofl::rofl:

Im in the trade and have never known any garage or mechanic to mess around with a plastic header tank as its not worth it , if it fails you can destroy an engine in around 3 minutes:eek:a new rad would only be 20 to 30 euro more if you could buy the core on its own, I`d hazard a guess that 95% of cars today use plastic headers , these crack as well as core failure.:thumbdown:

Just looked in Yellow Pages and there they were offering Radiator Repairs, rebuilds, core replacements etc. Googled replacement rads and found that there was some difficulty in provisioning some makes of new car rads but they could again repair same.

Honda rads were the only ones I saw advertised as non repairable.

This was nowhere near an exhaustive search on my part and I'm certainly not saying you are wrong but are they all wrong.

JIm

Rotor Oct 5th 2010 12:06 pm

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 

Originally Posted by Bigger Jim (Post 8896972)
Just looked in Yellow Pages and there they were offering Radiator Repairs, rebuilds, core replacements etc. Googled replacement rads and found that there was some difficulty in provisioning some makes of new car rads but they could again repair same.

Honda rads were the only ones I saw advertised as non repairable.

JIm



I speak from first hand experience not " I read on the internet" ;)

Bigger Jim Oct 5th 2010 12:28 pm

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 

Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 8896983)
I speak from first hand experience not " I read on the internet" ;)

Always used to teach my techs always check never assume if there is ever any doubt.

Jim

Rotor Oct 5th 2010 12:37 pm

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 

Originally Posted by Bigger Jim (Post 8897038)
Always used to teach my techs always check never assume if there is ever any doubt.

Jim

This is getting a bit boring but I can tell you when I owned a factors in the UK garages never ever asked for a rad core , just for a rad as its not viable to mess around repairing them and still have problems, the only cores that are viable to change are generally with brass headers found on larger vehicles such as trucks and heavy plant , plastic headers often fail before the core , now do you get it?

Bigger Jim Oct 5th 2010 3:42 pm

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Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 8896983)
I speak from first hand experience not " I read on the internet" ;)

Now I understand. A lot of people don't like using the internet its a sort of phobia. But many thanks anyway for your forebearance.

Jim

Casa Santo Estevo Oct 6th 2010 11:05 am

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 
Over heating could be down to the fan not working. If so it may be due to a faulty switch, fan motor, fuse blown or a poor electrical connection.
Second hand parts are always available at a breakers yard (Desguaces).

lunacrout Oct 6th 2010 11:08 am

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Hi all - thanks for all that - just read it all out to OH.

It is a Honda as it happens - a CRV - and there is a leak, but not sure just where it's coming from, I suppose it needs to go up on ramps. He's just put in some stuff he got from a petrol station called 'Tapa Fugas Radiador' - but I suppose if it's a hose leaking it won't have much effect.

We got home from a motorway drive last night & could see steam rising from the bonnet - there was also a very strong smell of curry - which is a bit of a mystery :eek:

Fredbargate Oct 6th 2010 11:11 am

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Honda built in India?

lunacrout Oct 6th 2010 11:20 am

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 8899247)
Honda built in India?

Possibly - all I know is it gave me a craving for a chicken madras & wished they did home delivery out to the campo :rofl:

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Rotor Oct 6th 2010 11:22 am

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 
Whilst we are on this subject its worth noting many guiris think because we dont get frosts on the costas you dont need anti freeze in your car and tap water will do, wrong, tap water causes headgasket failure, core plugs to rot and also blocks up the rad with limescale!

Rotor Oct 6th 2010 11:24 am

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 

Originally Posted by lunacrout (Post 8899241)
Hi all - thanks for all that - just read it all out to OH.

It is a Honda as it happens - a CRV - and there is a leak, but not sure just where it's coming from, I suppose it needs to go up on ramps. He's just put in some stuff he got from a petrol station called 'Tapa Fugas Radiador' - but I suppose if it's a hose leaking it won't have much effect.

We got home from a motorway drive last night & could see steam rising from the bonnet - there was also a very strong smell of curry - which is a bit of a mystery :eek:

Get it fixed professionally imediatley or you will soon be buying a new cylinder head or complete engine:eek: mimnimum 500 euro using a s/h head!!!:eek:

lunacrout Oct 6th 2010 11:45 am

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Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 8899267)
Whilst we are on this subject its worth noting many guiris think because we dont get frosts on the costas you dont need anti freeze in your car and tap water will do, wrong, tap water causes headgasket failure, core plugs to rot and also blocks up the rad with limescale!

Actually - we do get frost where we are (just 20 miles inland, but quite high up), it was down to minus 5 a couple of years ago!

Dick Dasterdly Oct 6th 2010 11:48 am

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Some of these anti-leak additives can gunge up the fine pipework in your radiator and in themselves can eventually cause overheating even after your leak is repaired.

Rotor Oct 6th 2010 11:50 am

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 8899332)
Some of these anti-leak additives can gunge up the fine pipework in your radiator and in themselves can eventually cause overheating even after your leak is repaired.

Yep they are ALL just a get you home temp cure , best not used at all if possible.only for chapuza`s:rofl:

lunacrout Oct 6th 2010 11:51 am

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 8899332)
Some of these anti-leak additives can gunge up the fine pipework in your radiator and in themselves can eventually cause overheating even after your leak is repaired.

Oops - too late now :ohmy:

He's just took it into the village to have a word with the local mechanic!



Errrmmm - what's a chapuza? :o

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Rotor Oct 6th 2010 11:58 am

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Originally Posted by lunacrout (Post 8899340)
Oops - too late now :ohmy:

He's just took it into the village to have a word with the local mechanic!



Errrmmm - what's a chapuza? :o

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Bodger:rofl:

lunacrout Oct 6th 2010 12:29 pm

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Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 8899360)
Bodger:rofl:

Ha-ha - OK :)

Bigger Jim Oct 6th 2010 2:04 pm

Re: Help - is it possible to buy Radweld out here?
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 8899332)
Some of these anti-leak additives can gunge up the fine pipework in your radiator and in themselves can eventually cause overheating even after your leak is repaired.

You are quite right they can.

Have just spent some time Googling round the world and most, if not all, parts making up a "Plastic" radiator can be replaced or repaired by a reasonably competent garage with access to a plastic welder.

The plastic tanks can fail routinely after about 4 to 6 years. Replacing a tank can take a competent mechanic about an hour.

I'm sure that if you take your car to your usually efficient garage they will know where to get it done.

NB I was shown how to weld plastic in Berlin so its not a recent innovation.1972.

Rotor Oct 6th 2010 2:47 pm

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Originally Posted by Bigger Jim (Post 8899648)
You are quite right they can.

Have just spent some time Googling round the world and most, if not all, parts making up a "Plastic" radiator can be replaced or repaired by a reasonably competent garage with access to a plastic welder.
The plastic tanks can fail routinely after about 4 to 6 years. Replacing a tank can take a competent mechanic about an hour.

I'm sure that if you take your car to your usually efficient garage they will know where to get it done.

NB I was shown how to weld plastic in Berlin so its not a recent innovation.1972.


:rofl::rofl::rofl:Dose not happen. ,you seem to be missing the point of garages, they are there to make a living , not save customers a few euros for an unreliable repair , all garages know if they fit a new rad it comes with a gaurantee for at least 12 months , a repair has no guarantee as its a bodge ,
an hours labour in Spain is around 35 euros, a core without headers will only be around 20 to 30 euro cheaper ,obviously the used header you fit wont have any warranty, not a smart move.

Suggest you give up trying to be an armchair mechanic and leave to those who do it for a living;)

Dick Dasterdly Oct 6th 2010 2:47 pm

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Originally Posted by lunacrout (Post 8899416)
Ha-ha - OK :)

Never mind,
At least I learned a new word today.

CHAPUZA ! lol. :rofl: ;)


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