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Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Hi!
My family (including dog) are thinking of moving to Spain, and love the country, but are worried about three things. Namely: 1) We will have to work and are worried about the Spanish culture of going to bed at 3 in the morning and getting up at 7! Is this a myth, and if you want more sleep do you get woken up at 3? 2) What is the aftercare like in hospitals - we have heard that they give excellent treatment but then afterwards don't give any help at all, leaving the family to look after the patient. Is this true, and/or does private exist? Also, where would be the best climate is Spain that is warm (but not boiling), not too windy, and dry all of the year round? Many many thanks!!!! |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by sachasacha
(Post 5150365)
Hi!
My family (including dog) are thinking of moving to Spain, and love the country, but are worried about three things. Namely: 1) We will have to work and are worried about the Spanish culture of going to bed at 3 in the morning and getting up at 7! Is this a myth, and if you want more sleep do you get woken up at 3? 2) What is the aftercare like in hospitals - we have heard that they give excellent treatment but then afterwards don't give any help at all, leaving the family to look after the patient. Is this true, and/or does private exist? Also, where would be the best climate is Spain that is warm (but not boiling), not too windy, and dry all of the year round? Many many thanks!!!! Yes work is something I think I'd have trouble getting used to. You'll be working for the morning, going home or for lunch from maybe two until fiveish, and then working into the evening. Therefore you won't eat until late ... maybe not go to bed until 1 or 2 Some places here don't open until 1o in the morning, some at 8. Our builder for instance only works from 7.30am until 1.30pm I heard various reports about aftercare. Certainly hospital care is centered on the medical side and I have heard of families taking in meals for patients. But further South a poster the other day was talking about after care homes. Private health care here for a couple in their early fifties is around £65 per month which covers normal GP appointments also (I have to pay a small amount of euros every time I go there) As regards area I can only tell you of CB North. Its very hot towards the end of July & through August. We've had a high of 107 so far. But my experiance of the rest of the year was good. It does rain (and when it rains it rains!) but thats good as it means we've got good greenery and lots of orange groves. Maybe an idea to rent when you get over here so then you can take some time to choose the area you like to live in |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by sachasacha
(Post 5150365)
Hi!
My family (including dog) are thinking of moving to Spain, and love the country, but are worried about three things. Namely: 1) We will have to work and are worried about the Spanish culture of going to bed at 3 in the morning and getting up at 7! Is this a myth, and if you want more sleep do you get woken up at 3? 2) What is the aftercare like in hospitals - we have heard that they give excellent treatment but then afterwards don't give any help at all, leaving the family to look after the patient. Is this true, and/or does private exist? Also, where would be the best climate is Spain that is warm (but not boiling), not too windy, and dry all of the year round? Many many thanks!!!! Work you will find difficult to find unless you are fairly fluent in Spanish or live on the costas. I am intreged by where you stayed judging by your 3 and 7 timezones, you can sleep anytime you want. You will have a job to find those weather conditions anywhere in Spain. Spain is a very family orientated, so yes they do expect family to support aftercare of patients. |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Thankyou for that advice. Actually, the CB North (Denia/Oliva/Moraira) is the area we know and like the best in Spain. We adore Denia, but apparently it's more humid because of its proximity to the Montgo. Do you think that if you wanted to go to bed early, noises in other peoples gardens and on the streets would keep you awake? And do the Brits living in Spain live on Spanish timings or British timings?
Many thanks once again, Sacha |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by sachasacha
(Post 5150365)
Hi!
My family (including dog) are thinking of moving to Spain, and love the country, but are worried about three things. Namely: 1) We will have to work and are worried about the Spanish culture of going to bed at 3 in the morning and getting up at 7! Is this a myth, and if you want more sleep do you get woken up at 3? 2) What is the aftercare like in hospitals - we have heard that they give excellent treatment but then afterwards don't give any help at all, leaving the family to look after the patient. Is this true, and/or does private exist? Also, where would be the best climate is Spain that is warm (but not boiling), not too windy, and dry all of the year round? Many many thanks!!!! Dont worry too much about the time issues, believe me you will get used to it, everyone who stays out here eventually does. As already said, if you want to sleep then just sleep, and I have to second the sentiments of Mitzy, it all depends on the type of work you do, them that work outside start early to get away from the heat. as to the weather then good luck finding somewhere like that. An island location is the obvious choice because of the cooling factor of the sea, but almost all of the islands in Spain (the Balearic's) are subject to the Tramuntana, and when that wind blows, it is bloody fierce! Ask around the forum about the children, quite a few people are parents. Good luck with everything. |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by sachasacha
(Post 5150456)
Thankyou for that advice. Actually, the CB North (Denia/Oliva/Moraira) is the area we know and like the best in Spain. We adore Denia, but apparently it's more humid because of its proximity to the Montgo. Do you think that if you wanted to go to bed early, noises in other peoples gardens and on the streets would keep you awake? And do the Brits living in Spain live on Spanish timings or British timings?
Many thanks once again, Sacha |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
You say you love the country, so you must of been here ?
Work you will find difficult to find unless you are fairly fluent in Spanish or live on the costas. I am intreged by where you stayed judging by your 3 and 7 timezones, you can sleep anytime you want. You will have a job to find those weather conditions anywhere in Spain. Spain is a very family orientated, so yes they do expect family to support aftercare of patients. ---- Jdr - yes, we have been several times to Spain. We speak a little Spanish, but the actual business side will be for the English-speakers on the Costas - we were worried though about tax forms and employment contracts existing only in Spanish. Thanks about the sleep - actually, that came from a couple living in Denia, but they may have been in a noisy and busy area, judging by what you say. As per aftercare, what happens if there is no family to help with aftercare (there is only me and my mum, and we are concerned about what may happen if one of us needs help while the other is away, even in another country, or has to work) Thanks! |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by sachasacha
(Post 5150456)
Thankyou for that advice. Actually, the CB North (Denia/Oliva/Moraira) is the area we know and like the best in Spain. We adore Denia, but apparently it's more humid because of its proximity to the Montgo. Do you think that if you wanted to go to bed early, noises in other peoples gardens and on the streets would keep you awake? And do the Brits living in Spain live on Spanish timings or British timings?
Many thanks once again, Sacha If you live on Brit timings in Spain you will be in all kinds of sh!te :lol: You'll have to get used to all kinds of noises in Spain, dogs, bikes etc etc, but when you get here you'll realise theres a reason for everything. Its cooler late at night which is a reason why we eat so late, even at weekends. Its very hot in the afternoon, when you don't want to be working. |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by sachasacha
(Post 5150456)
Thankyou for that advice. Actually, the CB North (Denia/Oliva/Moraira) is the area we know and like the best in Spain. We adore Denia, but apparently it's more humid because of its proximity to the Montgo. Do you think that if you wanted to go to bed early, noises in other peoples gardens and on the streets would keep you awake? And do the Brits living in Spain live on Spanish timings or British timings?
Many thanks once again, Sacha Where do you live now? Country or town? |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
At the moment, just moved from outside London (in the country, but 30mins by train to the centre). We would probably prefer though somewhere quietish, but near enough to shopping and town facilities to be easily accessable.
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Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
I don't know so much about southern Spain and the costas. In Galicia they have lunch at around 3pm and then dinner between 10pm and midnight. From what I have gathered, it's quite normal even for children to be awake then as well.
Galicia is not as hot though, I guess they have evolved slightly differently :p |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by sachasacha
(Post 5150487)
At the moment, just moved from outside London (in the country, but 30mins by train to the centre). We would probably prefer though somewhere quietish, but near enough to shopping and town facilities to be easily accessable.
I live in a small modern "town" about 3 kms outside Oliva. Its relatively quiet here, but there are still a lot of fireworks on fiestas any time up till midnight or so. We live far enough away to be in a peaceful area, but close enough to the town to enjoy the fiestas and town life. However if you live in the town you will find it noisey. Spanish people go out late and especially at weekends they party all night! Motor scooters for instance have their sound supressers surgically removed at point of purchase Having said that, you get used to it! And you will probably fall into the same habits when you have been here for a while.;) |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by sachasacha
(Post 5150487)
At the moment, just moved from outside London (in the country, but 30mins by train to the centre). We would probably prefer though somewhere quietish, but near enough to shopping and town facilities to be easily accessable.
There are a few around the forum from that area. |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Ok, so then -
If we lived outside town, would we still have neighbours talking until 2 or 3 on their balconies? And, regarding aftercare in hospitals - if there is no family around to look after someone, does the hospital staff look after them? Thankyou so much for everyone's help - its very useful for us. |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by sachasacha
(Post 5150552)
Ok, so then -
If we lived outside town, would we still have neighbours talking until 2 or 3 on their balconies? And, regarding aftercare in hospitals - if there is no family around to look after someone, does the hospital staff look after them? Thankyou so much for everyone's help - its very useful for us. You may well do, look for a thread by Lynnxa on neighbours, she has had a nightmare of a time with some, but others are so happy with theirs we often wonder if there are key parties going on....... |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by sachasacha
(Post 5150552)
Ok, so then -
If we lived outside town, would we still have neighbours talking until 2 or 3 on their balconies? And, regarding aftercare in hospitals - if there is no family around to look after someone, does the hospital staff look after them? Thankyou so much for everyone's help - its very useful for us. I know there are after care homes in Spain, but thats right down South. I don't think you would be left to starve in hospital if there was no one to look after you |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
What about the smoking laws - is smoking allowed everywhere, or is it banned, and if there is a ban, is it followed?
thankyou all once more! |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by sachasacha
(Post 5150831)
What about the smoking laws - is smoking allowed everywhere, or is it banned, and if there is a ban, is it followed?
thankyou all once more! |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by sachasacha
(Post 5150552)
Ok, so then -
If we lived outside town, would we still have neighbours talking until 2 or 3 on their balconies? And, regarding aftercare in hospitals - if there is no family around to look after someone, does the hospital staff look after them? Thankyou so much for everyone's help - its very useful for us. in the summer months mostly, you will see the Spanish older folke sitting outside on their chairs nattering away til the early hours but I think thats a great thing that they can do that without being beaten up or mugged!!!!!! if you buy on an urbanisation that has rental places you will probably be disturbed a lot more by holiday makers coming and going at all hours - something you may want to consider when house hunting most people agree, rent before you buy - you will never get a a feel for an area properly until you have lived in it |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by sachasacha
(Post 5150552)
Ok, so then -
If we lived outside town, would we still have neighbours talking until 2 or 3 on their balconies? And, regarding aftercare in hospitals - if there is no family around to look after someone, does the hospital staff look after them? Thankyou so much for everyone's help - its very useful for us. Noise to the Spanish people denotes life so therefore they glory in it and the only time it is almost guaranteed to be quiet is between 2 and 4 p.m. for siesta but this may vary from area to area. Rosemary |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by sachasacha
(Post 5150456)
Thankyou for that advice. Actually, the CB North (Denia/Oliva/Moraira) is the area we know and like the best in Spain. We adore Denia, but apparently it's more humid because of its proximity to the Montgo. Do you think that if you wanted to go to bed early, noises in other peoples gardens and on the streets would keep you awake? And do the Brits living in Spain live on Spanish timings or British timings?
Many thanks once again, Sacha we have been here nearly 4 years, and yes, we work, and yes, you do gradually get used to the spanish way of life we eat much later than most brits, but not quite as late as the spanish, especially when the kids are at school, as we still like them to go to bed at a reasonable hour - in fact, the teachers at school are trying to get the spanish parents to adopt english ways! during the 3 month summer hols though, it is not unknown for them to be in the communal garden with all their spanish friends until 1am this is hard for our english neighbours who holiday here to understand, (20+ very noisy kids playing outside thier door!:eek:) but I explained that it really is too hot for the kids to play outside during the day, so the night is their playtime. they don't like it, but are, I think beginning to understand & accept it I hope................ |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by spain
(Post 5150853)
are these questions for real ?? seriously neighbours chatting should be th last of your worries
in the summer months mostly, you will see the Spanish older folke sitting outside on their chairs nattering away til the early hours but I think thats a great thing that they can do that without being beaten up or mugged!!!!!! if you buy on an urbanisation that has rental places you will probably be disturbed a lot more by holiday makers coming and going at all hours - something you may want to consider when house hunting most people agree, rent before you buy - you will never get a a feel for an area properly until you have lived in it we don't get many problems - & anyway, it's for maybe 6 weeks a year! |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by The Oddities
(Post 5151061)
If you have real issues with the amount of noise levels then Spain may not be for you. The Spanish people talk fairly loudly, dogs bark incessantly, and the motorbikes as Mitzy says are loud. There are fireworks very regualrly and not just the pretty ones as they use huge banger type fireworks to celebrate just about everything, often these are used to wake the town up on important Saints days so that people do not miss any of the fun. Children play outside until quite late in the evening.
Noise to the Spanish people denotes life so therefore they glory in it and the only time it is almost guaranteed to be quiet is between 2 and 4 p.m. for siesta but this may vary from area to area. Rosemary |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by lynnxa
(Post 5153925)
very good point, and one which I wish more people reaslised before buying holiday homes/moving here:thumbsup:
Love it Rosemary |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by The Oddities
(Post 5153972)
Actually I think I was being too polite when I said that the Spanish talk fairly loudly, they talk very loudly and it really amuses me when 5 or 6 are having a conversation because they all talk at once so the noise level can be quite high.
Love it Rosemary and me too - I love the way they really get excited over the smallest things it is the one thing that annoys most of the brits who holiday here:blink: |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by lynnxa
(Post 5153993)
it amuses you:)
and me too - I love the way they really get excited over the smallest things it is the one thing that annoys most of the brits who holiday here:blink: Rosemary |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by The Oddities
(Post 5154001)
They do not need things to be hugely hyped up to appreciate things. As you say they get excited over small things and I think they glory in life itself and that is why they are so lovely to live amongst.
Rosemary |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
(Post 5150478)
Denia is very busy in the holiday season and some of the areas towards Montgo can be a bit shaded in the winter
If you live on Brit timings in Spain you will be in all kinds of sh!te :lol: You'll have to get used to all kinds of noises in Spain, dogs, bikes etc etc, but when you get here you'll realise theres a reason for everything. Its cooler late at night which is a reason why we eat so late, even at weekends. Its very hot in the afternoon, when you don't want to be working. It is typically spanish where I am and the noise used to keep me awake as I sleep with the windows open. Now, though, I just sleep through it all.:) |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by montgomail
(Post 5155188)
I overlook Montgo but have no probs with damp or shade. However my friend´s villa is very high up the Montgo and her house gets very damp and has no sunshine for 3 months of the year.
It is typically spanish where I am and the noise used to keep me awake as I sleep with the windows open. Now, though, I just sleep through it all.:) I do get pi$$ed off with the fireworks sometimes - when they go on all night til 5am, and then start again at 8am!!:curse: |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by montgomail
(Post 5155188)
I overlook Montgo but have no probs with damp or shade. However my friend´s villa is very high up the Montgo and her house gets very damp and has no sunshine for 3 months of the year.
It is typically spanish where I am and the noise used to keep me awake as I sleep with the windows open. Now, though, I just sleep through it all.:) The original poster asked the same question in the Canada expats at 2.21 p.m. yesterday and has not been on here since. Rosemary |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by The Oddities
(Post 5155994)
The original poster asked the same question in the Canada expats at 2.21 p.m. yesterday and has not been on here since.
Rosemary |
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Originally Posted by lynnxa
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actually I've just noticed that I had replied to her/him in the lounge:blink::confused:
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Originally Posted by rugbymatt
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I wondered what one would look like! |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
I am a him, and i don't think I look like that!
Perhaps I should explain - we are in a particular situation: A while ago we decided that we ought to move because of health problems that my Mum was having in the winter in the UK. So we did some preliminary travelling, starting with a map of the world! We went to the US, Aus, Canada, France and Spain (which we already knew quite well). We had some ideas about where to go,and narrowed it down to the CB North in Spain, Cannes and Sydney (as family ties don't mean we have to be near the UK). Spain was always high on our list, but those two nagging worries I asked about kept on nagging! It also slightly depended on business issues. its also taken us a rather long time to sell our house in the uk so we've had a long time to think about things! but that, to cut a long story even longer, is why i am asking the same question on different forums! btw lynnxa, re your previous posts - have you had many mozzies this year? thankyou all!!! |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by sachasacha
(Post 5156273)
I am a him, and i don't think I look like that!
Perhaps I should explain - we are in a particular situation: A while ago we decided that we ought to move because of health problems that my Mum was having in the winter in the UK. So we did some preliminary travelling, starting with a map of the world! We went to the US, Aus, Canada, France and Spain (which we already knew quite well). We had some ideas about where to go,and narrowed it down to the CB North in Spain, Cannes and Sydney (as family ties don't mean we have to be near the UK). Spain was always high on our list, but those two nagging worries I asked about kept on nagging! It also slightly depended on business issues. its also taken us a rather long time to sell our house in the uk so we've had a long time to think about things! but that, to cut a long story even longer, is why i am asking the same question on different forums! btw lynnxa, re your previous posts - have you had many mozzies this year? thankyou all!!! actually, hardly any! strangely though dh is the one getting bitten whereas usually he isn't! |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by sachasacha
(Post 5156273)
I am a him, and i don't think I look like that!
Perhaps I should explain - we are in a particular situation: A while ago we decided that we ought to move because of health problems that my Mum was having in the winter in the UK. So we did some preliminary travelling, starting with a map of the world! We went to the US, Aus, Canada, France and Spain (which we already knew quite well). We had some ideas about where to go,and narrowed it down to the CB North in Spain, Cannes and Sydney (as family ties don't mean we have to be near the UK). Spain was always high on our list, but those two nagging worries I asked about kept on nagging! It also slightly depended on business issues. its also taken us a rather long time to sell our house in the uk so we've had a long time to think about things! but that, to cut a long story even longer, is why i am asking the same question on different forums! btw lynnxa, re your previous posts - have you had many mozzies this year? thankyou all!!! Now I am really confused because you are saying here that you took some time to sell your house but in The Lounge you said that it sold overnight. Rosemary |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by The Oddities
(Post 5157510)
Now I am really confused because you are saying here that you took some time to sell your house but in The Lounge you said that it sold overnight.
Rosemary |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by lynnxa
(Post 5157514)
well spotted:D
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Originally Posted by rugbymatt
(Post 5156011)
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that's one of those her/hims that live under bridges, isn't it;) |
Re: Help please - advice about moving to Spain!!!
Originally Posted by rugbymatt
(Post 5157519)
Have you not left yet?
had shower need to get dressed |
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