Heating Pool
#31
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I reckon it's more like €0.25kWh if I include the standing and other charges. Nowhere near €0.12kWh, which is aboutwhat I pay in the UK.
Before we moved electricty (water, heating and cooking) for our 2 bed apartment in winter was always never less than €100 a month
Before we moved electricty (water, heating and cooking) for our 2 bed apartment in winter was always never less than €100 a month
€0.18 Spain
€0.17 uk
The 12p rate quoted above almost certainly doesn't include standing charge and VAT and as the fixed contracts expire the new rates are 15p(€0.18) plus, so very similar price spain- UK now.
#32
Just checked European wide energy prices and net cost equals
€0.18 Spain
€0.17 uk
The 12p rate quoted above almost certainly doesn't include standing charge and VAT and as the fixed contracts expire the new rates are 15p(€0.18) plus, so very similar price spain- UK now.
€0.18 Spain
€0.17 uk
The 12p rate quoted above almost certainly doesn't include standing charge and VAT and as the fixed contracts expire the new rates are 15p(€0.18) plus, so very similar price spain- UK now.
The rate I have UK is 11.11p per kw inc VAT with a £5.40 per month standing charge - I took that out over the last few months
Based on 500 kw pm - £60.95
The last rate with Iberdrola (2012) was €16.77 per kw
Then you pay your meter hire €0.60 a month
Standing charge €11.01 per month
Based on 500 kw pm - £78.24
Our usage was almost always around 800 kw per month
If you have a higher potencia, then the rates are higher. Ours was 5.75. I'm guessing rates have gone up since summer 2012
As I said before, you then have to take into consideration that heating a house in winter in Spain is a lot more of a challenge than in the UK. The houses a built to keep out heat, not to to keep heat in.
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I'm not sure where you checked them
The rate I have UK is 11.11p per kw inc VAT with a £5.40 per month standing charge - I took that out over the last few months
Based on 500 kw pm - £60.95
The last rate with Iberdrola (2012) was €16.77 per kw
Then you pay your meter hire €0.60 a month
Standing charge €11.01 per month
Based on 500 kw pm - £78.24
Our usage was almost always around 800 kw per month
If you have a higher potencia, then the rates are higher. Ours was 5.75. I'm guessing rates have gone up since summer 2012
As I said before, you then have to take into consideration that heating a house in winter in Spain is a lot more of a challenge than in the UK. The houses a built to keep out heat, not to to keep heat in.
The rate I have UK is 11.11p per kw inc VAT with a £5.40 per month standing charge - I took that out over the last few months
Based on 500 kw pm - £60.95
The last rate with Iberdrola (2012) was €16.77 per kw
Then you pay your meter hire €0.60 a month
Standing charge €11.01 per month
Based on 500 kw pm - £78.24
Our usage was almost always around 800 kw per month
If you have a higher potencia, then the rates are higher. Ours was 5.75. I'm guessing rates have gone up since summer 2012
As I said before, you then have to take into consideration that heating a house in winter in Spain is a lot more of a challenge than in the UK. The houses a built to keep out heat, not to to keep heat in.
A lot are just slabs of concrete, with no layers of insulation
You freeze or fry!
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I'm not sure where you checked them
The rate I have UK is 11.11p per kw inc VAT with a £5.40 per month standing charge - I took that out over the last few months
Based on 500 kw pm - £60.95
The last rate with Iberdrola (2012) was €16.77 per kw
Then you pay your meter hire €0.60 a month
Standing charge €11.01 per month
Based on 500 kw pm - £78.24
Our usage was almost always around 800 kw per month
If you have a higher potencia, then the rates are higher. Ours was 5.75. I'm guessing rates have gone up since summer 2012
As I said before, you then have to take into consideration that heating a house in winter in Spain is a lot more of a challenge than in the UK. The houses a built to keep out heat, not to to keep heat in.
The rate I have UK is 11.11p per kw inc VAT with a £5.40 per month standing charge - I took that out over the last few months
Based on 500 kw pm - £60.95
The last rate with Iberdrola (2012) was €16.77 per kw
Then you pay your meter hire €0.60 a month
Standing charge €11.01 per month
Based on 500 kw pm - £78.24
Our usage was almost always around 800 kw per month
If you have a higher potencia, then the rates are higher. Ours was 5.75. I'm guessing rates have gone up since summer 2012
As I said before, you then have to take into consideration that heating a house in winter in Spain is a lot more of a challenge than in the UK. The houses a built to keep out heat, not to to keep heat in.
I don't understand the Spanish billing do they charge by the kWh?
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Coincidentally, I had my renewal through yesterday from SSE in the UK.
Electric 11.82 per KWh and 23.02 a day charge.
Gas 3.88 per KWH and 23.02 a day charge.
That is a 12 month contract with an exit fee of £25 for each supply, 2 year one would be a bit cheaper but I may not be in the Uk in 2 years fingers crossed.
Electric 11.82 per KWh and 23.02 a day charge.
Gas 3.88 per KWH and 23.02 a day charge.
That is a 12 month contract with an exit fee of £25 for each supply, 2 year one would be a bit cheaper but I may not be in the Uk in 2 years fingers crossed.
#36
Purely for comparison of charges :-
Gibraltar
Electricity
Meter £4.00 per month
Electric 8.80p / Kwh
FCA 4.00p / Kwh
FCA is fuel charge adjustment and allows the company to change the price of electricity without applying to the Government for an increase in charges
However it has remained at £04.00 for many years.
Therefore electric is actually 12.80p / Kwh
My last bill total was £50.98 for 367 Kwh or 13.89p /Kwh, there is no tax.
Water,
Water in Gib is made by desalination, an expensive process.
Meter £3.00 per month
Water 24.90p per 100 litres equals £2.49 per cubic meter.
My last bill total £13.21 for 41 units or 4.1 cubic meters or £3.22 per cubic meter no tax.
Please also note swimming pools require their own meter and the charges are 3 times the normal domestic rate, so rather expensive.
A recent leak returned a bill in excess of £10,000
Gibraltar
Electricity
Meter £4.00 per month
Electric 8.80p / Kwh
FCA 4.00p / Kwh
FCA is fuel charge adjustment and allows the company to change the price of electricity without applying to the Government for an increase in charges

However it has remained at £04.00 for many years.
Therefore electric is actually 12.80p / Kwh
My last bill total was £50.98 for 367 Kwh or 13.89p /Kwh, there is no tax.
Water,
Water in Gib is made by desalination, an expensive process.
Meter £3.00 per month
Water 24.90p per 100 litres equals £2.49 per cubic meter.
My last bill total £13.21 for 41 units or 4.1 cubic meters or £3.22 per cubic meter no tax.
Please also note swimming pools require their own meter and the charges are 3 times the normal domestic rate, so rather expensive.
A recent leak returned a bill in excess of £10,000
#37
Yes, they charge per kw, just like the UK, but you can choose your potencia, depending on what your requirements are ... a higher potencia = higher kw charges iirc.
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Yes, but then my Spanish account charges would (a) increase when I built in the standing charge also (thats why I put them both separately) and (b) those are Spanish 2012 rates, two years increases to go on that against up to date UK.
Yes, they charge per kw, just like the UK, but you can choose your potencia, depending on what your requirements are ... a higher potencia = higher kw charges iirc.
Yes, they charge per kw, just like the UK, but you can choose your potencia, depending on what your requirements are ... a higher potencia = higher kw charges iirc.
I need to investigate current prices when I'm over in a few weeks
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