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Re: Global warming??
Originally Posted by Domino
(Post 11132129)
don't remember anyone shouting about Global Warming when we had the bad weather of the 63-64 winter, the year children of 10 in the Scillies had the first snow fall in their lives.
` BTW where I was at the time it was 62-63. |
Re: Global warming??
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 11132145)
No-one is suggesting that AGW is the only influence on the weather - there are many.
BTW where I was at the time it was 62-63. |
Re: Global warming??
Global warming, Climate change, Human effect on the planet.So called Experts being used on all sides of the argument, advisors turning faster than spinning tops.
Western governments telling people how to collect and seperate their rubbish, then dump it altogether on the same site.Bankers misusing/misappropiating customers funds, usually known as Fraud and getting away with it. Weird and contradictory human species turning into vegetarians.Humans unnecessarily slaughtering land and sea creatures for profit alone. Humans killing one another, indifferent to their spiritual beliefs, for power and financial gain alone.Then entertain ourselves with soaps and Big brother. Telling each other we need to secure and care for our childrens future and the planet they are to inherit. Ahhh yes where there's controversy and contradiction, generalisation,there is hope, we fool and tell ourselves. Oh I am so glad my kids were born Aliens and I will return to my home on Zod. |
Re: Global warming??
Lucky you.:cool:
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Re: Global warming??
Originally Posted by Domino
(Post 11132175)
because the parade ground was closed
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Re: Global warming??
Originally Posted by fuchs01
(Post 11132589)
Global warming, Climate change, Human effect on the planet.So called Experts being used on all sides of the argument, advisors turning faster than spinning tops.
Western governments telling people how to collect and seperate their rubbish, then dump it altogether on the same site.Bankers misusing/misappropiating customers funds, usually known as Fraud and getting away with it. Weird and contradictory human species turning into vegetarians.Humans unnecessarily slaughtering land and sea creatures for profit alone. Humans killing one another, indifferent to their spiritual beliefs, for power and financial gain alone.Then entertain ourselves with soaps and Big brother. Telling each other we need to secure and care for our childrens future and the planet they are to inherit. Ahhh yes where there's controversy and contradiction, generalisation,there is hope, we fool and tell ourselves. Oh I am so glad my kids were born Aliens and I will return to my home on Zod. Jo xxx |
Re: Global warming??
Originally Posted by fuchs01
(Post 11132589)
Global warming, Climate change, Human effect on the planet.So called Experts being used on all sides of the argument, advisors turning faster than spinning tops.
Western governments telling people how to collect and seperate their rubbish, then dump it altogether on the same site.Bankers misusing/misappropiating customers funds, usually known as Fraud and getting away with it. Weird and contradictory human species turning into vegetarians.Humans unnecessarily slaughtering land and sea creatures for profit alone. Humans killing one another, indifferent to their spiritual beliefs, for power and financial gain alone.Then entertain ourselves with soaps and Big brother. Telling each other we need to secure and care for our childrens future and the planet they are to inherit. Ahhh yes where there's controversy and contradiction, generalisation,there is hope, we fool and tell ourselves. Oh I am so glad my kids were born Aliens and I will return to my home on Zod. Just a few centuries ago, the vast majority of the population was all but impoverished. We'd hack each other to bits for the entertainment of our kings. We'd kill anything we felt like killing. We'd enslave people of another nationality, race or religion, and presumed they all were of a lesser ilk, and deserved to be treated like animals, or subject to torture... There was little, if any rule of law. Nobody ever thought about the environment, or human rights, and there was no such thing as a "middle class". You were either rich and powerful, or a peasant. And that's just how it was. ...and precious few saw it differently than that... Luckily, that's now limited to a few remaining primitive cultures who refuse to accept how humanity has advanced in the past few centuries. |
Re: Global warming??
Originally Posted by amideislas
(Post 11133410)
Well it all may seem like the end of the world, but be assured, we are far better as a species nowadays than ever before. I happen to agree with Bill Gates on this one.
Just a few centuries ago, the vast majority of the population was all but impoverished. We'd hack each other to bits for the entertainment of our kings. We'd kill anything we felt like killing. We'd enslave people of another nationality, race or religion, and presumed they all were of a lesser ilk, and deserved to be treated like animals, or subject to torture... There was little, if any rule of law. Nobody ever thought about the environment, or human rights, and there was no such thing as a "middle class". You were either rich and powerful, or a peasant. And that's just how it was. ...and precious few saw it differently than that... Luckily, that's now limited to a few remaining primitive cultures who refuse to accept how humanity has advanced in the past few centuries. In a few 100 years time, I'm sure society will have changed again - good and bad. The climate will be changing just as it always has - thats if we havent blown ourselves up with our own advances in weapons!!!!! As for the recent weather - its just more of the same. Nothing has happened that hasnt happened already in our recent past - so its not new, the only thing thats new is our feeble attempts to reclaim land that mother nature had earmarked as water - she's just proved that we're not as "big" as we like to think we are!!! I just feel deeply sorry for those who have been affected Jo xxx |
Re: Global warming??
Originally Posted by amideislas
(Post 11133410)
Well it all may seem like the end of the world, but be assured, we are far better as a species nowadays than ever before. I happen to agree with Bill Gates on this one.
Just a few centuries ago, the vast majority of the population was all but impoverished. We'd hack each other to bits for the entertainment of our kings. We'd kill anything we felt like killing. We'd enslave people of another nationality, race or religion, and presumed they all were of a lesser ilk, and deserved to be treated like animals, or subject to torture... There was little, if any rule of law. Nobody ever thought about the environment, or human rights, and there was no such thing as a "middle class". You were either rich and powerful, or a peasant. And that's just how it was. ...and precious few saw it differently than that... Luckily, that's now limited to a few remaining primitive cultures who refuse to accept how humanity has advanced in the past few centuries. the western world, it lies true, but then again we are only 5-8% of the world inhabitants,who incidently are not the bees knees, and all types of corruption is rife. Including promotion of self importance. The rest of our fellow humans still live in the mayhem and degradation explained, posted in the above quote. I dont believe the end of the world because we humans tend to be nobheads, but I dont believe in patting ourselves on the back in support of some sort of human patronisation. I am neither sinic,optimist, or pessemist in my beliefs, I just observe and opinionate my thoughts on what present characteristics as a species we negatively or possitively allow to forge our lives. As corny as it sounds, I belief hope is eternal, our children and theirs after ride the waves of future hope. so humans as a species can always expand. Evolution is a permanent path that nature builds and extends. We are part of and not the whole of natures designs. So at present as a species we are still at the punk and dictator phase. So like our wise teachers write on our behalf...'room for improvement' is a continous relevant 'dictate'. So grasshopper do not believe the blade of grass you decide to land on is the only one suitable or available, because its the field itself that can mask the choices. |
Re: Global warming??
This chap is saying what I think.
There are many interesting questions one can raise about how climate scientists and economists model both climate change and the human contribution to it. But I’m not going to discuss any of those here. I’m going to take as a given that global warming does exist and has many accepted, worrying effects – and try to argue that we should not be attempting to prevent it, but instead be looking to adapt to it. |
Re: Global warming??
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 11135245)
This chap is saying what I think.
There is no way we can stop AGW if it is happening. There is no point in stopping using electricity, cars and anything that increases your "carbon footprint". Better to adapt to what might happen. Of course that depends upon us being able to predict what might happen. |
Re: Global warming??
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 11135245)
This chap is saying what I think.
There is no way we can stop AGW if it is happening. There is no point in stopping using electricity, cars and anything that increases your "carbon footprint". Better to adapt to what might happen. Of course that depends upon us being able to predict what might happen. Even a bottle of water is "contaminated" because it has been put into the bottle using fossil fuels to pump the water and fill the bottles and move them from A to B to C etc so you can buy in the supermarket. It is a vicious circle and you would really have to live "off the grid" to have at best a neutral situation. But as i say - who is going to be the first, and will it turn from one snowflake into a blizzard, or just melt on the tarmac ??? Everyone from the 3rd World wants all the advantages we have, and it is too late to stop it all. Just have to see if The Old Girl can make the necessary adjustments........ |
Re: Global warming??
Originally Posted by Domino
(Post 11135405)
well who is going to be the first to stop using electricity, burning fossil fuels, only buying things that are not processed ???
Even a bottle of water is "contaminated" because it has been put into the bottle using fossil fuels to pump the water and fill the bottles and move them from A to B to C etc so you can buy in the supermarket. It is a vicious circle and you would really have to live "off the grid" to have at best a neutral situation. But as i say - who is going to be the first, and will it turn from one snowflake into a blizzard, or just melt on the tarmac ??? Everyone from the 3rd World wants all the advantages we have, and it is too late to stop it all. Just have to see if The Old Girl can make the necessary adjustments........ |
Re: Global warming??
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 11135245)
This chap is saying what I think.
There is no way we can stop AGW if it is happening. There is no point in stopping using electricity, cars and anything that increases your "carbon footprint". Better to adapt to what might happen. Of course that depends upon us being able to predict what might happen. |
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