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The Beast Mar 9th 2011 4:51 am

Getting rid of accumalated stuff
 
Any information on second hand markets or car boot sales on the Costa Brava?

Thanks in anticipation

alig2010 Mar 9th 2011 5:21 am

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Sorry, don't know of actual markets that you go to, I'm sure someone else will be along to help you with that. However, you might get rid of some things through segundamano.es if you can manage online listings.

paintermujer Mar 9th 2011 6:06 am

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Originally Posted by The Beast (Post 9228445)
Any information on second hand markets or car boot sales on the Costa Brava?

Thanks in anticipation

I think the further you go up the east coast the less chance of finding a really good carboot sale.

None around here and any rastro is merely a meeting place.

Theres a massive gap in the 2nd hand market.

bxpuser24710519 Mar 9th 2011 6:18 am

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From my limited experience of the spanish as a people they have nothing secondhand to pass on as they sell houses complete with furniture and anything else they use till only fit for firewood or dis assembling for useful parts then residue goes to the bins. Any market I have seen, most of the items are not fit for much if anything at all. I think the ex pats are the ones that want second hand markets.

cricketman Mar 9th 2011 6:21 am

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Originally Posted by The Capitans Wench (Post 9228591)
From my limited experience of the spanish as a people they have nothing secondhand to pass on as they sell houses complete with furniture and anything else they use till only fit for firewood.

OK you must live in a very poor rural area :)

My experience is anything of worth will be passed along the family for free. And anything else will be thrown away.

The segundamano site has been a big success though so maybe times are changing.

JLFS Mar 9th 2011 8:02 am

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Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 9228596)
OK you must live in a very poor rural area :)

My experience is anything of worth will be passed along the family for free. And anything else will be thrown away.

The segundamano site has been a big success though so maybe times are changing.

Second hand stuff is not usually sold as you say, visitors to the costas from other parts of Spain are quite surprised by carboot sales.

Most dont really like them, but think that the secondhand paperbacks is a good thing, and would buy them if they could when they go home. As there are huge savings and they would read a lot more if they could get books for 1euro each.

As for clothes, a reall no no.

bxpuser24710519 Mar 9th 2011 8:12 am

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Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 9228596)
OK you must live in a very poor rural area :)
My experience is anything of worth will be passed along the family for free. And anything else will be thrown away.

The segundamano site has been a big success though so maybe times are changing.

Your assumption of where I live is way of the mark, it is neither poor nor rural.

jdr Mar 9th 2011 8:39 am

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There are as many Spaniards as Marocs and Brits at the Torrimollinos car boot on Sundays. ;);)

JLFS Mar 9th 2011 8:46 am

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Originally Posted by jdr (Post 9228893)
There are as many Spaniards as Marocs and Brits at the Torrimollinos car boot on Sundays. ;);)

If the Spanish love car boot sales as much as the Brits then why havent they caught on in other parts of Spain where there are no British.

I dont know how long ago it was when car boot sales started in the uk but about 20ish, I think, well, the Spanish would have started them by now if they were really interested, I suppose.

But they havent....so they may attract Spanish visitors, but they can take them or leave them...

whitelinen Mar 9th 2011 9:01 am

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Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 9228905)
If the Spanish love car boot sales as much as the Brits then why havent they caught on in other parts of Spain where there are no British.

Selling in Spain is much more regulated than UK. AFAIK sellers need to be registered autonomo and/or have a licence ambulantorio (spelling?)
I remember instances of cops raiding a car boot event in a field near Lliria several arrests and fines given and site closed permanantly. When I lived in France same happened and English woman and kid chucked in cells.

Apart from that and as far as my Spanish friends tell me they think its unlucky to bring a strangers second hand goods into their home.

JLFS Mar 9th 2011 9:21 am

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Originally Posted by whitelinen (Post 9228949)
Selling in Spain is much more regulated than UK. AFAIK sellers need to be registered autonomo and/or have a licence ambulantorio (spelling?)
I remember instances of cops raiding a car boot event in a field near Lliria several arrests and fines given and site closed permanantly. When I lived in France same happened and English woman and kid chucked in cells.

Apart from that and as far as my Spanish friends tell me they think its unlucky to bring a strangers second hand goods into their home.

That could be a reason for no car boot sales, I have no idea for sure.

Dick Dasterdly Mar 9th 2011 10:11 am

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Originally Posted by whitelinen (Post 9228949)
Selling in Spain is much more regulated than UK. AFAIK sellers need to be registered autonomo and/or have a licence ambulantorio (spelling?)
I remember instances of cops raiding a car boot event in a field near Lliria several arrests and fines given and site closed permanantly. When I lived in France same happened and English woman and kid chucked in cells.

Apart from that and as far as my Spanish friends tell me they think its unlucky to bring a strangers second hand goods into their home.

Yes I recall that one, and another in the area being shut down.
Seems they hit the ones the Brits use the hardest,... trouble was some stalls were selling new stuff as well as used, and the usual bunch of Africans were there with counterfeit goods.
They had a fairly clever sales scam, so it was difficult for the cops to nail them down.
There's a few very small local ones keep coming and going around here, but not a great deal of stuff there. They seem to be more of a social meeting point than anything else.
Used to be a cracking good one just out of Benidorm towards Aldea, but I don't know if its still going at present.

jdr Mar 9th 2011 9:10 pm

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Carboots are for second hand stuff and you don`t need anything but the pitch fee, at markets you need proper licence etc.

Carboots started around 1973 in the UK, we used to run one for the local school till they decided the playground was not insured for it, the cost would of been more than the takings. ;-))

Rotor Mar 9th 2011 9:24 pm

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Originally Posted by whitelinen (Post 9228949)
Selling in Spain is much more regulated than UK. AFAIK sellers need to be registered autonomo and/or have a licence ambulantorio (spelling?)
I remember instances of cops raiding a car boot event in a field near Lliria several arrests and fines given and site closed permanantly. When I lived in France same happened and English woman and kid chucked in cells.

Apart from that and as far as my Spanish friends tell me they think its unlucky to bring a strangers second hand goods into their home.

Free enterprise dose not exist in Spain hence the economy is nose diving at a frightening rate:thumbdown:

whitelinen Mar 9th 2011 9:37 pm

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Originally Posted by jdr (Post 9230211)
Carboots are for second hand stuff and you don`t need anything but the pitch fee, at markets you need proper licence etc.


Maybe in the UK but not in Spain or parts of Spain.

Apart from the reasons already mentioned I read that the Spanish Police were concerned that goods offered as second hand were actually stolen goods.

Anyhow its all academic because the car boot concept has not caught on in Spain nor many other countries come to think of it.

cricketman Mar 9th 2011 9:38 pm

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Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 9230230)
Free enterprise dose not exist in Spain hence the economy is nose diving at a frightening rate:thumbdown:

Yeah, it shrunk by -0.1% in 2010. Frightening! ;)

Rotor Mar 9th 2011 10:03 pm

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Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 9230248)
Yeah, it shrunk by -0.1% in 2010. Frightening! ;)

Yeah thats why every thing is rosey, low unemployment , low fuel prices ,low food prices ,new car sales booming , property market`s buoyent, you really believe what you want dont you dont you, open your eyes and live in the real world .

cricketman Mar 9th 2011 10:13 pm

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Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 9230283)
Yeah thats why every thing is rosey, low unemployment , low fuel prices ,low food prices ,new car sales booming , property market`s buoyent, you really believe what you want dont you dont you, open your eyes and live in the real world .

I never said everything is rosey. Things are bad of course, but that goes for most of the countries in the Western world.

And I dont expect things to be getting better soon, not in Spain, the UK or the US. We are going to have 10 years of no growth, best get used to it!

Oh and can't wait for the property to keep getting back to reasonable levels. Hopefully we can buy a nice family home with a nice bit of land in the next year or two.

Always good to look on the bright side :)

Rotor Mar 9th 2011 10:27 pm

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Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 9230299)
I never said everything is rosey. Things are bad of course, but that goes for most of the countries in the Western world.

And I dont expect things to be getting better soon, not in Spain, the UK or the US. We are going to have 10 years of no growth, best get used to it!

Oh and can't wait for the property to keep getting back to reasonable levels. Hopefully we can buy a nice family home with a nice bit of land in the next year or two.

Always good to look on the bright side :)

You should not belive what the crooks in Madrid tell you , also you will find that property will only get cheaper if the the economy gets worse, house prices in the UK are stable if not very slightly increasing ,sadly not the case in Spain, people need to get realistic.

cricketman Mar 9th 2011 10:34 pm

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Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 9230320)
You should not belive what the crooks in Madrid tell you , also you will find that property will only get cheaper if the the economy gets worse, house prices in the UK are stable if not very slightly increasing ,sadly not the case in Spain, people need to get realistic.

Crooks in Madrid? GDP figures are varified by a number of international organisations, economists and approved accountants!

Re, property, that is not true at all. Prices in London are down 10-20% from peak (2007), while prices in the North and less desirable parts of the South East are down by 30% from peak.

In Spain, prices are down 10-20% from peak, EXCEPT in the Costa areas where there are lots of foreigners who "Bought into the dream". Here, prices are down 50% from peak, at least!

Rotor Mar 9th 2011 10:37 pm

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Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 9230335)
Crooks in Madrid? GDP figures are varified by a number of international organisations, economists and approved accountants!

Re, property, that is not true at all. Prices in London are down 10-20% from peak (2007), while prices in the North and less desirable parts of the South East are down by 30% from peak.

In Spain, prices are down 10-20% from peak, EXCEPT in the Costa areas where there are lots of foreigners who "Bought into the dream". Here, prices are down 50% from peak, at least!

As I said believe what you want , I ve had 25 year experince in property developing and have many friends/associates in the same game :cool:

cricketman Mar 9th 2011 10:39 pm

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Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 9230339)
As I said believe what you want , I ve had 25 year experince in property developing and have many friends/associates in the same game :cool:

Yes and I regularly read the trade press, visit property websites in both countries and talk to the estate agents.

If you think property prices have increased in the past 4 years in the UK then you are deluded and obviously know nothing

Rotor Mar 9th 2011 10:42 pm

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Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 9230340)
Yes and I regularly read the trade press, visit property websites in both countries and talk to the estate agents.

If you think property prices have increased in the past 4 years in the UK then you are deluded and obviously know nothing

Thats why I semi retired in my forties and your unemployed and living off your wife in a rented apartment:p

Those who can do or have done:rofl:

cricketman Mar 9th 2011 10:49 pm

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Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 9230344)
Thats why I semi retired in my forties and your unemployed and living off your wife in a rented apartment:p

Those who can do or have done:rofl:

Well, you are wrong again. You couldnt be more wrong. Bit of a habit of yours :D

My OH and I could both retire now if we wanted, as long as we rented a cheap 2 bed flat - and we only started working 7 years ago :)

Not that we earn big money, but saying you are rich enough to be semi-retired means nothing

Rotor Mar 9th 2011 10:55 pm

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Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 9230355)
Well, you are wrong again. You couldnt be more wrong. Bit of a habit of yours :D

My OH and I could both retire now if we wanted, as long as we rented a cheap 2 bed flat - and we only started working 7 years ago :)

Not that we earn big money, but saying you are rich enough to be semi-retired means nothing

:rofl:

Rotor Mar 9th 2011 11:19 pm

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Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 9230340)
Yes and I regularly read the trade press, visit property websites in both countries and talk to the estate agents.

If you think property prices have increased in the past 4 years in the UK then you are deluded and obviously know nothing

You must read the trade press and speak to the wrong type of agent,like I said those who know......



http://www.uklandandfarms.co.uk/agri...-13pc-in-2010/

cricketman Mar 9th 2011 11:22 pm

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Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 9230402)
You must read the trade press and speak to the wrong type of agent,like I said those who know......



http://www.uklandandfarms.co.uk/agri...-13pc-in-2010/

You really have a poor sense of judgement. What does the price of farmland got to do with anything? Or the price of prime London property in Q4 2010?

You clearly do not understand how to interpret data :blink:

jimenato Mar 9th 2011 11:29 pm

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I wish someone would correct the spelling in the thread title...:(

Rotor Mar 9th 2011 11:40 pm

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Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 9230407)
You really have a poor sense of judgement. What does the price of farmland got to do with anything? Or the price of prime London property in Q4 2010?

You clearly do not understand how to interpret data :blink:

You really are a nob:rofl: it got everything to do with it , thats where my investments are :rofl::rofl: I posted the link to educate you but then I realised you know everything:rofl:

jay01 Mar 10th 2011 12:07 am

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With all due respect what has your play ground squabble have to do with the thread, I think we all understand the concept of economics although interpretations of it can be very different.

As the thread is about getting rid of accumulated stuff not how screwed up the world is why not make suggestions as has been mentioned. Hold a garden sale, friday ads or classifieds in Brit papers they may not be very successful depends on how much you want, how much people will pay and what condition it is in.

People seem to want something for nothing but are not willing to give it away themselves, swings and roundabouts. Ask a fair price and do not haggle, pay a fair price and stop being a cheap skate and both parties will be happy, but then again maybe I am away with the fairies:D, but at least I am happy with my lot in life and can sleep at night.

Grebo Mar 10th 2011 12:09 am

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Meanwhile back on the subject.....................

I have had some success using specific forums ie: I had some camping stuff & joined up on a Spanish camping forum, sold a tent & bought a few bits & bobs :o Made a few 'e' friends in the process.
:thumbup:
And look around your area, we have a local 'Brit' shop that also takes secondhand stuff to sell for you, they put their 10% on top & every one's happy.

jay01 Mar 10th 2011 12:16 am

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Originally Posted by Grebo (Post 9230469)
Meanwhile back on the subject.....................

I have had some success using specific forums ie: I had some camping stuff & joined up on a Spanish camping forum, sold a tent & bought a few bits & bobs :o Made a few 'e' friends in the process.
:thumbup:
And look around your area, we have a local 'Brit' shop that also takes secondhand stuff to sell for you, they put their 10% on top & every one's happy.

Never thought of that what a good idea might mention it to our local Brit shop, never hurts to mention it the worst they can say is NO! but people would need to be realistic as to it's condition, never sell anything that you would not be prepared to buy yourself I have seen some crap being sold at carboots and such like, I have thrown away stuff in better condition would rather sell it than take it home again.

The Beast Mar 10th 2011 12:55 am

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Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 9230411)
I wish someone would correct the spelling in the thread title...:(

Accumulated stuff!

Apologies mate.....Slip of the digit methinks?:rofl:

I see that this has sparked off somewhat of a discussion, albeit on nothing to do with my question.....Anyway....Onwards....Anyone want a couple of thousand used but excellent condition... paperback novels? Thousands of golfballs.....Dozens of clubs/putters/drivers. ( New )...Thousands of music cassettes....Hundreds of original music DVD's.....Was just looking for perhaps a local place to flog em off cheaply....Oh! And the latest gist on the property market and its future in Spain.....

Be safe!:thumbup
:

jdr Mar 10th 2011 1:24 am

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Originally Posted by whitelinen (Post 9230246)
Maybe in the UK but not in Spain or parts of Spain.

Apart from the reasons already mentioned I read that the Spanish Police were concerned that goods offered as second hand were actually stolen goods.

Anyhow its all academic because the car boot concept has not caught on in Spain nor many other countries come to think of it.

The guy is asking if it is possible to sell stuff at markets, I think he has got his answer. ;);)
I go to four rastros every week, three run by Spaniards, Fuengirola, Arroya, and Torri, one by Brits at Mijas horse race track, I have seen new stock taken from some Brit sellers at Fuengirola on Saturdays by the police, but the carboots have been going for years.

whitelinen Mar 10th 2011 4:28 am

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Originally Posted by jdr (Post 9230607)
The guy is asking if it is possible to sell stuff at markets, I think he has got his answer. ;);)
I go to four rastros every week, three run by Spaniards, Fuengirola, Arroya, and Torri, one by Brits at Mijas horse race track, I have seen new stock taken from some Brit sellers at Fuengirola on Saturdays by the police, but the carboots have been going for years.

No, he actually asked if there were any on the Costa Brava!

jdr Mar 10th 2011 5:17 am

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Originally Posted by whitelinen (Post 9230957)
No, he actually asked if there were any on the Costa Brava!

I am just telling him it is possible, if there are boot sales there ;);)


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