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Generators in Chiclana
Can you help?
Need advise on where to go to buy decent silent running deisel generator around 6KW output in the Chiclana area. Even better where we can buy this, some batteries and an inverter. I am sure you realise why!! Any ideas? Any assistance would be appreciated |
Re: Generators in Chiclana
Originally Posted by weemac
(Post 4480927)
Can you help?
Need advise on where to go to buy decent silent running deisel generator around 6KW output in the Chiclana area. Even better where we can buy this, some batteries and an inverter. I am sure you realise why!! Any ideas? Any assistance would be appreciated Is there a problem with supplies in Spain ? is it likely that i could be halfway through watching the classic " Trout Fishing from your armchair " and the power goes off ?.. |
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Not had power sincle last June. June the 20th at 12.05pm to be exact.
Have been trying unsuccessfully to get it re installed since then. :eek: |
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Your line could be cut just as the end is nigh and you are about to see the trout landed!!
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Re: Generators in Chiclana
Originally Posted by weemac
(Post 4481039)
Not had power sincle last June. June the 20th at 12.05pm to be exact.
Have been trying unsuccessfully to get it re installed since then. :eek: This wouldnt happen in built up areas i hope ? anybody tell me do i need to add a Generator to my new villa requirements ? |
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Very long story you need to go back and stroll through the links and you will find that there are quite a lot of expats in the Cadiz area without electricity as they have bought legally property that is deemed by the local council to be illegal
Some 15000 people allledgedly live illegally and some 3000 + without electricity. Be aware! |
Re: Generators in Chiclana
Originally Posted by weemac
(Post 4481074)
Very long story you need to go back and stroll through the links and you will find that there are quite a lot of expats in the Cadiz area without electricity as they have bought legally property that is deemed by the local council to be illegal
Some 15000 people allledgedly live illegally and some 3000 + without electricity. Be aware! |
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BigPete and Weemac it isn't just illegal properties that have no electricity.. many legal properties have problems too.. Have a search on electricity Chiclana threads. The problem is that builders are building without upgrading the transformers, then being refused meters as the transformer in that area is overloaded. Hence no supply. Have a look at previous threads.
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Re: Generators in Chiclana
Originally Posted by poollounger
(Post 4481427)
BigPete and Weemac it isn't just illegal properties that have no electricity.. many legal properties have problems too.. Have a search on electricity Chiclana threads. The problem is that builders are building without upgrading the transformers, then being refused meters as the transformer in that area is overloaded. Hence no supply. Have a look at previous threads.
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Re: Generators in Chiclana
Originally Posted by Big Pete
(Post 4481446)
i see ,i will do that thanks,
Ring Scot Walker on 0034 964 157 293, he is up to speed on what is required and supplying Generator and Battery solutions with Solar panels if required. |
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Thanks Solarwhizz we have already been in touch and have quotes for the "big fix" if required, we intend to wait until May time as we have been advised by our builder and the local community comittee that our lines/transformer should be upgraded so that we can get connected, I am still however looking for a deisel geni in the meantime as the petrol one we have is really noisy!
Thanks poolounger, I have been following the threads for some time hoping that I would read some good news from the Pago Mellillia area. Nothing so foar though. Thanks for your words of advice. |
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Still looking for a diesel geni tho, so if anyone can help it would be appreciated!
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Hi
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but "Diario de Cadiz" carried a story on Saturday of a property in Pago melilla having a destruction order and the builder being jailed (6 months I think I remember). Dave |
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Not ours, or our street, I would have heard by now.
Thanks for the notice though I will try and see if I can backtrack in the newspaper. Are you sure it isn't the other way around. I did read that some people have taken the ayuntamiento to court for not making their houses legal and the judges have gone against the ayuntamiento stating that the PGOU (town plan) is illegal? |
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Originally Posted by weemac
(Post 4482206)
Not ours, or our street, I would have heard by now.
Thanks for the notice though I will try and see if I can backtrack in the newspaper. Are you sure it isn't the other way around. I did read that some people have taken the ayuntamiento to court for not making their houses legal and the judges have gone against the ayuntamiento stating that the PGOU (town plan) is illegal? |
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Get on e-bay in UK there are a number of companies that will send to spain cost is usually around £150 to £200 but that still works out cheaper than buying one in spain. I've looked into this as i'm in the same predicament as yourself
as previous stated, scot has an agent in the area & you can get a bank of batteries & an inverter for around 5K euros i think might even be cheaper now with all the work in the area here are a few available on spanish e-bay http://search.ebay.es/diesel-generad...lQ20generators |
Re: Generators in Chiclana
Originally Posted by Solarwhizz
(Post 4481680)
www.energiass.com are carrying out a series of installations for residents in the Chiclana area, following the recent spate of problems,
Ring Scot Walker on 0034 964 157 293, he is up to speed on what is required and supplying Generator and Battery solutions with Solar panels if required. |
Re: Generators in Chiclana
Originally Posted by Big Pete
(Post 4480999)
i dont understand ..why u need one ??
Is there a problem with supplies in Spain ? is it likely that i could be halfway through watching the classic " Trout Fishing from your armchair " and the power goes off ?.. |
Re: Generators in Chiclana
Originally Posted by weemac
(Post 4481074)
Very long story you need to go back and stroll through the links and you will find that there are quite a lot of expats in the Cadiz area without electricity as they have bought legally property that is deemed by the local council to be illegal
Some 15000 people allledgedly live illegally and some 3000 + without electricity. Be aware! |
Re: Generators in Chiclana
Originally Posted by sonnyc
(Post 4484067)
Living in Spain the idea is to spend much of the time outdoors, ie: in the garden-I realise the generator would be in some kind of housing, but as this generator would possibley be running for some 6-8 hours per day wouldn't the noise from it disturb one's neighbours, as many of the new properties are build on plots of approximately 500 to 800 metres?
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Re: Generators in Chiclana
Nose lifted from the grindstone of work, bad weather etc.
I will look at cadiz.biz thanks. Every other neighbours has a geni running of some description the difference is that I would like one in a deafened housing to make it a bit quieter I suppose. The petrol one really is LOUD! Our neighbour is running a very quiet diesel geni in its own brick housing that any train enthusiast would be proud of! many thanks for your help and may thanks for advising that my house may have been knocked down ....aarrgghh!! |
Re: Generators in Chiclana
Originally Posted by weemac
(Post 4485782)
Nose lifted from the grindstone of work, bad weather etc.
I will look at cadiz.biz thanks. Every other neighbours has a geni running of some description the difference is that I would like one in a deafened housing to make it a bit quieter I suppose. The petrol one really is LOUD! Our neighbour is running a very quiet diesel geni in its own brick housing that any train enthusiast would be proud of! many thanks for your help and may thanks for advising that my house may have been knocked down ....aarrgghh!! |
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Originally Posted by Douglas jack
(Post 4485819)
Dont worry you still own the land,just put a caravan on it just like North Berwick.
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Re: Generators in Chiclana
Originally Posted by steve in pago
(Post 4484051)
Get on e-bay in UK there are a number of companies that will send to spain cost is usually around £150 to £200 but that still works out cheaper than buying one in spain. I've looked into this as i'm in the same predicament as yourself
as previous stated, scot has an agent in the area & you can get a bank of batteries & an inverter for around 5K euros i think might even be cheaper now with all the work in the area here are a few available on spanish e-bay http://search.ebay.es/diesel-generad...lQ20generators Silent generators, Silence is mostly a technical definition in these cases, and refer to something like 70dba at 7 meters, which is quieter but not silent, You would have to go to the super silent range to get something that is meaningful, However there are lots of things you can do to dumb down the noise, IE put at back of house, with outward open to trees or similar, Leylandi types are very thick and provide excellent insulation. Dont buy a unit that is non diesel, a few benefits here, they are cheaper to run and you may be able to qualify for Red diesel, which is currently about 60C per litre. The expected life of a diesel unit is far in excess of petrol units. Ensure you get electric start and preferably with an Automatic electronic voltage regulator, ( these will automatically manage the voltage output and help protect your electronics as it will prevent huge jumps in voltage, and not allow power on till the unit is up to speed, producing a stable output. If you are going to buy an inverter and battery system to reduce genny run time, ensure that you do your homework and the inverter is a quality brand, pure sine wave unit, (the modified sine wave could again kill electronics in the house ,IE SKY BOX, new plasma TV). get an inverter with a high current rated bypass switch ,so that when you want to do the washing etc, youcan just switch the genny on and the inverter will switch over and allow higher current as required. Ensure that your genny is large enuff to run the washingmachine and some other bits with enough left to charge your batteries, this again will save running costs, as the batteries can be charged at the same time as you do the heavy electric load chores, again reducing running time. Buying the 2.5KW from Leroy Merlin is a false economy.. a good 5KVA silent runner, diesel unit with AVR will be about 2500€ and about 5 times as good. |
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Perfect Solarwhizz just what I wanted to know. If i am going down the route of inverter and batteries then I will call Scot without fail. He has been spot on with his quotes and info.
I just don't want to go the whole hog and find that we get two wires shoved into the back of the house within 3 months or so. Very frustrating for me but worse for those living with it every day. Off to leroy merlin on next visit then. Caravan, North Berwick?? Far too warm around there!! Rdioactive fallout from the power station at Torness fumes from Portobello station, the smell of Kirkcaldy linoleum plant over the water!! I'll bring a tent. many thanks:D |
Re: Generators in Chiclana
Originally Posted by Solarwhizz
(Post 4486046)
I wouldn't advise buying gennies off E-bay, unless it is a seller who can guarantee and support with spares and service if necessary, This all costs extra money and therefore why you will need to pay a bit more! also shipping costs will be in the region of £100 to UK if the unit has to go back under guarantee.
Silent generators, Silence is mostly a technical definition in these cases, and refer to something like 70dba at 7 meters, which is quieter but not silent, You would have to go to the super silent range to get something that is meaningful, However there are lots of things you can do to dumb down the noise, IE put at back of house, with outward open to trees or similar, Leylandi types are very thick and provide excellent insulation. Dont buy a unit that is non diesel, a few benefits here, they are cheaper to run and you may be able to qualify for Red diesel, which is currently about 60C per litre. The expected life of a diesel unit is far in excess of petrol units. Ensure you get electric start and preferably with an Automatic electronic voltage regulator, ( these will automatically manage the voltage output and help protect your electronics as it will prevent huge jumps in voltage, and not allow power on till the unit is up to speed, producing a stable output. If you are going to buy an inverter and battery system to reduce genny run time, ensure that you do your homework and the inverter is a quality brand, pure sine wave unit, (the modified sine wave could again kill electronics in the house ,IE SKY BOX, new plasma TV). get an inverter with a high current rated bypass switch ,so that when you want to do the washing etc, youcan just switch the genny on and the inverter will switch over and allow higher current as required. Ensure that your genny is large enuff to run the washingmachine and some other bits with enough left to charge your batteries, this again will save running costs, as the batteries can be charged at the same time as you do the heavy electric load chores, again reducing running time. Buying the 2.5KW from Leroy Merlin is a false economy.. a good 5KVA silent runner, diesel unit with AVR will be about 2500€ and about 5 times as good. |
Re: Generators in Chiclana
Originally Posted by Solarwhizz
(Post 4486046)
I wouldn't advise buying gennies off E-bay, unless it is a seller who can guarantee and support with spares and service if necessary, This all costs extra money and therefore why you will need to pay a bit more! also shipping costs will be in the region of £100 to UK if the unit has to go back under guarantee.
Silent generators, Silence is mostly a technical definition in these cases, and refer to something like 70dba at 7 meters, which is quieter but not silent, You would have to go to the super silent range to get something that is meaningful, However there are lots of things you can do to dumb down the noise, IE put at back of house, with outward open to trees or similar, Leylandi types are very thick and provide excellent insulation. Dont buy a unit that is non diesel, a few benefits here, they are cheaper to run and you may be able to qualify for Red diesel, which is currently about 60C per litre. The expected life of a diesel unit is far in excess of petrol units. Ensure you get electric start and preferably with an Automatic electronic voltage regulator, ( these will automatically manage the voltage output and help protect your electronics as it will prevent huge jumps in voltage, and not allow power on till the unit is up to speed, producing a stable output. If you are going to buy an inverter and battery system to reduce genny run time, ensure that you do your homework and the inverter is a quality brand, pure sine wave unit, (the modified sine wave could again kill electronics in the house ,IE SKY BOX, new plasma TV). get an inverter with a high current rated bypass switch ,so that when you want to do the washing etc, youcan just switch the genny on and the inverter will switch over and allow higher current as required. Ensure that your genny is large enuff to run the washingmachine and some other bits with enough left to charge your batteries, this again will save running costs, as the batteries can be charged at the same time as you do the heavy electric load chores, again reducing running time. Buying the 2.5KW from Leroy Merlin is a false economy.. a good 5KVA silent runner, diesel unit with AVR will be about 2500€ and about 5 times as good. |
Re: Generators in Chiclana
Originally Posted by steve in pago
(Post 4487615)
Totally agree with all above but you can still get a decent geni if you do some research on the net & use a company that carry spares etc, you will also find that most geni's only come with a short gaurantee usually 6months on certain bits of the it.
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hmmmm....quite right!
been away for a few days thank you for your advice cheers fi jockland |
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