General cost of living - Living modestly
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General cost of living - Living modestly
I've been curious about possibly moving to Spain. I'd have a small fixed income from the USA. I don't know if it would be possible to do.
The main question I have is about typical rent. I don't have money to buy a home. When I try to search around the net, all I find are 'apartments' (that from my US perspective seem more like hotels) with extremely high rent costs.
I wouldn't be looking to use a car or work (at least not many hours). Nor would I eat out hardly at all, nor drink any alcohol, or buy many unnecessary things. What I'd expect to pay for are things like rent, food (I eat cheap in the US - I don't know what the food market is like throughout Spain exactly), electricity, water, tv/internet, and not much else.
I'm thinking inland, and outside of the major cities. Whatever isn't expensive. What I'm mostly looking for is climate and a nice place for road cycling.
Does anyone have a general clue as to how much it would cost per month?
Or just, cost of renting an apartment per month. Something small, halfway decent 0-1 bedroom. In an inexpensive inland location. Could anyone give me an idea? I'm completely clueless if I'm looking at like 400euro per month or 1500euro.
If anyone could give a similar answer to similar location in rural France, Italy, or Germany, that would be great too.
The main question I have is about typical rent. I don't have money to buy a home. When I try to search around the net, all I find are 'apartments' (that from my US perspective seem more like hotels) with extremely high rent costs.
I wouldn't be looking to use a car or work (at least not many hours). Nor would I eat out hardly at all, nor drink any alcohol, or buy many unnecessary things. What I'd expect to pay for are things like rent, food (I eat cheap in the US - I don't know what the food market is like throughout Spain exactly), electricity, water, tv/internet, and not much else.
I'm thinking inland, and outside of the major cities. Whatever isn't expensive. What I'm mostly looking for is climate and a nice place for road cycling.
Does anyone have a general clue as to how much it would cost per month?
Or just, cost of renting an apartment per month. Something small, halfway decent 0-1 bedroom. In an inexpensive inland location. Could anyone give me an idea? I'm completely clueless if I'm looking at like 400euro per month or 1500euro.
If anyone could give a similar answer to similar location in rural France, Italy, or Germany, that would be great too.
Last edited by Millano; Jan 14th 2006 at 4:09 am.
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Re: General cost of living - Living modestly
Originally Posted by Millano
I've been curious about possibly moving to Spain. I'd have a small fixed income from the USA. I don't know if it would be possible to do.
The main question I have is about typical rent. I don't have money to buy a home. When I try to search around the net, all I find are 'apartments' (that from my US perspective seem more like hotels) with extremely high rent costs.
I wouldn't be looking to use a car or work (at least not many hours). Nor would I eat out hardly at all, nor drink any alcohol, or buy many unnecessary things. What I'd expect to pay for are things like rent, food (I eat cheap in the US - I don't know what the food market is like throughout Spain exactly), electricity, water, tv/internet, and not much else.
I'm thinking inland, and outside of the major cities. Whatever isn't expensive. What I'm mostly looking for is climate and a nice place for road cycling.
Does anyone have a general clue as to how much it would cost per month?
Or just, cost of renting an apartment per month. Something small, halfway decent 0-1 bedroom. In an inexpensive inland location. Could anyone give me an idea? I'm completely clueless if I'm looking at like 400euro per month or 1500euro.
If anyone could give a similar answer to similar location in rural France, Italy, or Germany, that would be great too.
The main question I have is about typical rent. I don't have money to buy a home. When I try to search around the net, all I find are 'apartments' (that from my US perspective seem more like hotels) with extremely high rent costs.
I wouldn't be looking to use a car or work (at least not many hours). Nor would I eat out hardly at all, nor drink any alcohol, or buy many unnecessary things. What I'd expect to pay for are things like rent, food (I eat cheap in the US - I don't know what the food market is like throughout Spain exactly), electricity, water, tv/internet, and not much else.
I'm thinking inland, and outside of the major cities. Whatever isn't expensive. What I'm mostly looking for is climate and a nice place for road cycling.
Does anyone have a general clue as to how much it would cost per month?
Or just, cost of renting an apartment per month. Something small, halfway decent 0-1 bedroom. In an inexpensive inland location. Could anyone give me an idea? I'm completely clueless if I'm looking at like 400euro per month or 1500euro.
If anyone could give a similar answer to similar location in rural France, Italy, or Germany, that would be great too.
As for France, Italy etc I would post something similar on the site dedicated to those countries. However, before you do it may be a good idea to do a search on this subject within the specific forum.
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Re: General cost of living - Living modestly
Millano,
You may wish to check out some of those online newspapers, they contain a wealth of information on local news items, cost of living and renting etc..
www.onlinenewspapers.com/spain.htm
(just copy and paste)
I dont know your circumstances, but would respectfully suggest that you seriously thoroughly investigate "all about Spain" before thinking of emigrating.
I felt sad when I read you message because,
Life seems already hard in the US for you, I sense that emigrating to a Foreign land may not enhance your life, or be the answer that you are looking for, which, could result in being a very stressful experience.
Good luck.
You may wish to check out some of those online newspapers, they contain a wealth of information on local news items, cost of living and renting etc..
www.onlinenewspapers.com/spain.htm
(just copy and paste)
I dont know your circumstances, but would respectfully suggest that you seriously thoroughly investigate "all about Spain" before thinking of emigrating.
I felt sad when I read you message because,
Life seems already hard in the US for you, I sense that emigrating to a Foreign land may not enhance your life, or be the answer that you are looking for, which, could result in being a very stressful experience.
Good luck.
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Re: General cost of living - Living modestly
Originally Posted by Gray C
There are several threads on here covering this subject, the latest of which is titled "Monthly budget - Inland" (see next page). This should answer some of your queries.
As for France, Italy etc I would post something similar on the site dedicated to those countries. However, before you do it may be a good idea to do a search on this subject within the specific forum.
As for France, Italy etc I would post something similar on the site dedicated to those countries. However, before you do it may be a good idea to do a search on this subject within the specific forum.
Originally Posted by La Joconde
You may wish to check out some of those online newspapers, they contain a wealth of information on local news items, cost of living and renting etc..
www.onlinenewspapers.com/spain.htm
www.onlinenewspapers.com/spain.htm
I dont know your circumstances, but would respectfully suggest that you seriously thoroughly investigate "all about Spain" before thinking of emigrating.
I felt sad when I read you message because,
Life seems already hard in the US for you, I sense that emigrating to a Foreign land may not enhance your life, or be the answer that you are looking for, which, could result in being a very stressful experience.
Life seems already hard in the US for you, I sense that emigrating to a Foreign land may not enhance your life, or be the answer that you are looking for, which, could result in being a very stressful experience.
Thanks again for both of your replies.
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Re: General cost of living - Living modestly
Rental costs really vary depending where you go. We rented when we first moved to Spain and we were paying 900 Euros per month for a 3 bed townhouse. This is in a relatively up an coming area. We then rented an apartment near Marbella and that was 800 Euros per month. If you go inland I suppose you could find something in the region of 400 Euros per month...but you'd really need to look around.
Have a look at Kyero which has a wide range of long term rentals all over Spain:
Long term lets in Spain
In terms of living on a budget, we recently did an article on this which you may find or interest:
Living on a budget in Spain
Good luck!
Have a look at Kyero which has a wide range of long term rentals all over Spain:
Long term lets in Spain
In terms of living on a budget, we recently did an article on this which you may find or interest:
Living on a budget in Spain
Good luck!
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Re: General cost of living - Living modestly
I would say minimum 1,500 euros a month to cover rent, electric, water, food and have something left over.
If you are serious about moving, look carefully at the area you are moving to and don't just think "cheap rent, I'm off".
Good luck
If you are serious about moving, look carefully at the area you are moving to and don't just think "cheap rent, I'm off".
Good luck
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Re: General cost of living - Living modestly
Originally Posted by svenskidoo
I would say minimum 1,500 euros a month to cover rent, electric, water, food and have something left over.
If you are serious about moving, look carefully at the area you are moving to and don't just think "cheap rent, I'm off".
Good luck
If you are serious about moving, look carefully at the area you are moving to and don't just think "cheap rent, I'm off".
Good luck
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Hi.
We have lived here for two and a half years and live comfortably under £10,000 I see included in that is £140 a month to go out, (we have a small boat on a hard mooring for diving) take that out of the equation and you are already down to £8320. Depends how much or where you wish to go out, we go to a local bar ie tonight will cost us well under £15 to incude food and drinks.
But here is the crux we are away from the costa's and do not pay inflated prices. Depends upon the area you choose to relocate to.
I spoke to a lady leaving from Almeria airport on the same flight as me, she commented how expensive her area is,( Vera/ Garrucha) .
You probably need to come over and visit the area's of interest to you, It does depend on what you are looking for, ie night life around the costa's or more rural Spain with local bars.
by the way our last electric bill just came in for 80 euro's, this covers two months, but our rates are (we have another smaller property and that is 38 euro a year) and this place is 125 euro's.
Best of luck in your search
pwwm
We have lived here for two and a half years and live comfortably under £10,000 I see included in that is £140 a month to go out, (we have a small boat on a hard mooring for diving) take that out of the equation and you are already down to £8320. Depends how much or where you wish to go out, we go to a local bar ie tonight will cost us well under £15 to incude food and drinks.
But here is the crux we are away from the costa's and do not pay inflated prices. Depends upon the area you choose to relocate to.
I spoke to a lady leaving from Almeria airport on the same flight as me, she commented how expensive her area is,( Vera/ Garrucha) .
You probably need to come over and visit the area's of interest to you, It does depend on what you are looking for, ie night life around the costa's or more rural Spain with local bars.
by the way our last electric bill just came in for 80 euro's, this covers two months, but our rates are (we have another smaller property and that is 38 euro a year) and this place is 125 euro's.
Best of luck in your search
pwwm
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Re: General cost of living - Living modestly
Originally Posted by pwwm
Hi.
We have lived here for two and a half years and live comfortably under £10,000 I see included in that is £140 a month to go out, (we have a small boat on a hard mooring for diving) take that out of the equation and you are already down to £8320. Depends how much or where you wish to go out, we go to a local bar ie tonight will cost us well under £15 to incude food and drinks.
But here is the crux we are away from the costa's and do not pay inflated prices. Depends upon the area you choose to relocate to.
I spoke to a lady leaving from Almeria airport on the same flight as me, she commented how expensive her area is,( Vera/ Garrucha) .
You probably need to come over and visit the area's of interest to you, It does depend on what you are looking for, ie night life around the costa's or more rural Spain with local bars.
by the way our last electric bill just came in for 80 euro's, this covers two months, but our rates are (we have another smaller property and that is 38 euro a year) and this place is 125 euro's.
Best of luck in your search
pwwm
We have lived here for two and a half years and live comfortably under £10,000 I see included in that is £140 a month to go out, (we have a small boat on a hard mooring for diving) take that out of the equation and you are already down to £8320. Depends how much or where you wish to go out, we go to a local bar ie tonight will cost us well under £15 to incude food and drinks.
But here is the crux we are away from the costa's and do not pay inflated prices. Depends upon the area you choose to relocate to.
I spoke to a lady leaving from Almeria airport on the same flight as me, she commented how expensive her area is,( Vera/ Garrucha) .
You probably need to come over and visit the area's of interest to you, It does depend on what you are looking for, ie night life around the costa's or more rural Spain with local bars.
by the way our last electric bill just came in for 80 euro's, this covers two months, but our rates are (we have another smaller property and that is 38 euro a year) and this place is 125 euro's.
Best of luck in your search
pwwm
My place is near Denia.I did add loads to this cost breakdown.Haircuts and clothes budgets and take out meal 2 times a month.Even added car devaluation and car parts and birthdays and Xmas budget for pressies.My breakdown was all inclusive cost.Even added about 200 a year towards new decor etc.But all these costs are hidden costs and have to be paid at some point.
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Re: General cost of living - Living modestly
Originally Posted by Rachels2000
Hello
My place is near Denia.I did add loads to this cost breakdown.Haircuts and clothes budgets and take out meal 2 times a month.Even added car devaluation and car parts and birthdays and Xmas budget for pressies.My breakdown was all inclusive cost.Even added about 200 a year towards new decor etc.But all these costs are hidden costs and have to be paid at some point.
My place is near Denia.I did add loads to this cost breakdown.Haircuts and clothes budgets and take out meal 2 times a month.Even added car devaluation and car parts and birthdays and Xmas budget for pressies.My breakdown was all inclusive cost.Even added about 200 a year towards new decor etc.But all these costs are hidden costs and have to be paid at some point.
Here is my breakdown
food- £200 a month
Take out- £20 a month
Elect-£20 a month
Water £25 a month
Sky tv -£10 a month
Ibi tax- £5 a month
Gas or heating £20 a month
Phone £13 a month
Broadband £20 a month
Fiscal Rep £8 a month
House and contents insurance £14 a month
Travel Insurance £5 a month
Medical Private healthcare £60 a month
Car Insurance £14 a month
Car Tax £4 a month
Car Parts £8 a month
Petrol £50 a month
Car Devalue £50 a month
Hair Cut £3 a month
Dentist £5 a month
Vet £3 a month
Car Mot £3 a month
Clothes £15 a month
Xmas budget £17 a month
Birthday budget for gifts £17 a month
Pc Software and hardware £9 a month
Spending £160 a month
Wealth Tax £40 a month
Decor budget(new household items, decoration etc) £15 a month
Flights back to Uk once a year £25 a month
Cattery while on holiday £20 a month
= £883 a month. Just over £10,000 a year.
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Hiya
I think it is slightly more where you are, but as you said you have added everything, mind you I save on hair cuts have a friend. I know someone your neck of the woods, loves it.
Re car, good thing here is that second hand cars seem to hold their value, (unless you are trying to buy one) but we bought ours over and will keep until they literally fall apart.
Still think there is a lot in the area chosen. Also if people want the coast or inland, lot of factors to be taken into account.
Keep well
pwwm
I think it is slightly more where you are, but as you said you have added everything, mind you I save on hair cuts have a friend. I know someone your neck of the woods, loves it.
Re car, good thing here is that second hand cars seem to hold their value, (unless you are trying to buy one) but we bought ours over and will keep until they literally fall apart.
Still think there is a lot in the area chosen. Also if people want the coast or inland, lot of factors to be taken into account.
Keep well
pwwm
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Re: General cost of living - Living modestly
Originally Posted by pwwm
Hiya
I think it is slightly more where you are, but as you said you have added everything, mind you I save on hair cuts have a friend. I know someone your neck of the woods, loves it.
Re car, good thing here is that second hand cars seem to hold their value, (unless you are trying to buy one) but we bought ours over and will keep until they literally fall apart.
Still think there is a lot in the area chosen. Also if people want the coast or inland, lot of factors to be taken into account.
Keep well
pwwm
I think it is slightly more where you are, but as you said you have added everything, mind you I save on hair cuts have a friend. I know someone your neck of the woods, loves it.
Re car, good thing here is that second hand cars seem to hold their value, (unless you are trying to buy one) but we bought ours over and will keep until they literally fall apart.
Still think there is a lot in the area chosen. Also if people want the coast or inland, lot of factors to be taken into account.
Keep well
pwwm
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Hi Racheal
What a breakdown I am impressed, Get out as soon as you can, sooooo much more relaxing as I am sure you know. I feel the "pressure" when in the UK, so many taxes to pay etc, and the price of fuel as you know we pay in cents what Brits pay in pennies.
But as you know we could go on re cost of living here and back in UK. Sounds like you are ready to come over full time asap.
All the best
pwwm
What a breakdown I am impressed, Get out as soon as you can, sooooo much more relaxing as I am sure you know. I feel the "pressure" when in the UK, so many taxes to pay etc, and the price of fuel as you know we pay in cents what Brits pay in pennies.
But as you know we could go on re cost of living here and back in UK. Sounds like you are ready to come over full time asap.
All the best
pwwm
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Originally Posted by pwwm
Hi Racheal
What a breakdown I am impressed, Get out as soon as you can, sooooo much more relaxing as I am sure you know. I feel the "pressure" when in the UK, so many taxes to pay etc, and the price of fuel as you know we pay in cents what Brits pay in pennies.
But as you know we could go on re cost of living here and back in UK. Sounds like you are ready to come over full time asap.
All the best
pwwm
What a breakdown I am impressed, Get out as soon as you can, sooooo much more relaxing as I am sure you know. I feel the "pressure" when in the UK, so many taxes to pay etc, and the price of fuel as you know we pay in cents what Brits pay in pennies.
But as you know we could go on re cost of living here and back in UK. Sounds like you are ready to come over full time asap.
All the best
pwwm
We are similar in many ways to Rachel and her hubby. Can bring about £10k to £12k pa with us for a family of 3. Likewise we want to live off the coast to maximise our money.
Good luck
Graham & Pauline
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Re: General cost of living - Living modestly
Originally Posted by Gray C
We are similar in many ways to Rachel and her hubby. Can bring about £10k to £12k pa with us for a family of 3. Likewise we want to live off the coast to maximise our money.
Good luck
Graham & Pauline
Good luck
Graham & Pauline