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bil Mar 31st 2011 7:17 am

Re: The Future King Charles in Spain
 

Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 9277613)
I'm no Royalist, personally I wouldn't go down the back garden to see any of them, but many do, and we have that scrounger Phil the Greek, at 89 years old, still having around 350 engagements a year, I don't know too many people at that age doing the work he does. Queenie, also in her 80's doesn't do too bad either. When we retire we can put our feet up, not them kiddies. Being born into the Royal Family is for me akin to being given a poison chalice, they're welcome to it. As I say, no Royalist, but won't lose any sleep over paying my 62p (or whatever it is) towards them either.

Phil, Liz and Anne work like anything, but the rest of the freeloaders do sod all.

bil Mar 31st 2011 7:18 am

Re: The Future King Charles in Spain
 

Originally Posted by HBG (Post 9277612)
I always shudder when I hear a criticism of our monarchy from someone who doesn’t suggest an alternative. There are alternatives, of course there are, and most of them are much worse than the House of Hanover currently looking after the plebs.

We need someone in charge to sort out the chaos that would otherwise ensue. I suppose the anarchists would disagree, those clowns that smashed up Fortnum and Mason. They fly their black and red flags and haven’t got a fxxxxng clue what to do if they won.

In case anyone is wondering, communism didn’t work; they killed the Czar and his family and got Stalin, it cost millions of lives. Germany had a crack with that funny man with the moustache and millions more lost their lives.

Let all those people criticising Prince Charles get on their knees and apologise. The man is harmless, he just wants to grow his carrots in peace.



First off, get rid of the Royals and put in a couple of actors and animatronics. If you must have a head of state, elect one for 4 years and then tell them to piss off.

rugbymatt Mar 31st 2011 7:19 am

Re: The Future King Charles in Spain
 

Originally Posted by bil (Post 9277636)
Phil, Liz and Anne work like anything, but the rest of the freeloaders do sod all.

Charles is no freeloader mate... you forget, I was a tenant of his.

JLFS Mar 31st 2011 7:23 am

Re: The Future King Charles in Spain
 

Originally Posted by bil (Post 9277642)
First off, get rid of the Royals and put in a couple of actors and animatronics. If you must have a head of state, elect one for 4 years and then tell them to piss off.

Nex 4 years Christopher Biggins and Kate Moss

4 years later Barbara Windsor and Bradley Walsh

4 years later Keith Lemon and holly Willabooby.

:rofl:

bil Mar 31st 2011 7:29 am

Re: The Future King Charles in Spain
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 9277646)
Charles is no freeloader mate... you forget, I was a tenant of his.

True, Diana did a lot too.

Mind you, Andrew, Edward?

bil Mar 31st 2011 7:30 am

Re: The Future King Charles in Spain
 

Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 9277657)
Nex 4 years Christopher Biggins and Kate Moss

4 years later Barbara Windsor and Bradley Walsh

4 years later Keith Lemon and holly Willabooby.

:rofl:

and the joy of it is, you are rid of them as soon as the term is up.

rugbymatt Mar 31st 2011 7:35 am

Re: The Future King Charles in Spain
 

Originally Posted by bil (Post 9277671)
True, Diana did a lot too.

Mind you, Andrew, Edward?

Oh without a doubt... if they were medieval monarchs someone would have drowned them in their gruel....

cricketman Mar 31st 2011 7:36 am

Re: The Future King Charles in Spain
 

Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 9277181)
You're in good company, many Spanish feel that way about Letizia, the future Queen, after her "alleged" sex, drugs, and abortion revelations. They're all at it!
http://www.diariofemenino.com/actual...drogas-aborto/

You really had to dig around to find that.

With an incredible 5 comments, most from Latin Americans supporting Letizia

Letizia is a good Oviedo girl like my OH, I doubt she got up to no-good :)

But saying that, Spanish people are generally very proud of Juan Carlos for all he did for the country, the story is remarkable. However, they are pretty ambivalent towards the rest of them, it will be interesting to see what happens when Juan Carlos goes.

agoreira Mar 31st 2011 7:55 am

Re: The Future King Charles in Spain
 

Originally Posted by HBG (Post 9277612)
I always shudder when I hear a criticism of our monarchy from someone who doesn’t suggest an alternative. There are alternatives, of course there are, and most of them are much worse than the House of Hanover currently looking after the plebs.

When I think of countries with a Royal Family, like Denmark, Holland, Sweden, Norway, Spain, UK etc, they are all pretty stable, "sensible" countries (even Jordan, for the Middle East, is relatively stable) but when I think of nutters like Sarkosy, Berlusconi, Chavez, Gadafi, Obama, Mugabe etc, like you, I'm happy with what we have.

bil Mar 31st 2011 8:22 am

Re: The Future King Charles in Spain
 

Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 9277727)
When I think of countries with a Royal Family, like Denmark, Holland, Sweden, Norway, Spain, UK etc, they are all pretty stable, "sensible" countries (even Jordan, for the Middle East, is relatively stable) but when I think of nutters like Sarkosy, Berlusconi, Chavez, Gadafi, Obama, Mugabe etc, like you, I'm happy with what we have.

Humans have a distressing facility to bend at the kness. It shouldn't be encouraged.

Rosemary Mar 31st 2011 8:49 am

Re: The Future King Charles in Spain
 

Originally Posted by HBG (Post 9277612)
I always shudder when I hear a criticism of our monarchy from someone who doesn’t suggest an alternative. There are alternatives, of course there are, and most of them are much worse than the House of Hanover currently looking after the plebs.

We need someone in charge to sort out the chaos that would otherwise ensue. I suppose the anarchists would disagree, those clowns that smashed up Fortnum and Mason. They fly their black and red flags and haven’t got a fxxxxng clue what to do if they won.

In case anyone is wondering, communism didn’t work; they killed the Czar and his family and got Stalin, it cost millions of lives. Germany had a crack with that funny man with the moustache and millions more lost their lives.

Let all those people criticising Prince Charles get on their knees and apologise. The man is harmless, he just wants to grow his carrots in peace.

Why does there have to be an alternative, we don´t need a president because like the monarchy they wield too much power and cost extraordinary sums of money. How come other countries can manage with an elected head of state but for some people the UK can´t.

Graham

HBG Mar 31st 2011 10:01 am

Re: The Future King Charles in Spain
 

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 9277689)
You really had to dig around to find that.

With an incredible 5 comments, most from Latin Americans supporting Letizia

Letizia is a good Oviedo girl like my OH, I doubt she got up to no-good :)

But saying that, Spanish people are generally very proud of Juan Carlos for all he did for the country, the story is remarkable. However, they are pretty ambivalent towards the rest of them, it will be interesting to see what happens when Juan Carlos goes.

The Spanish Royals weren’t around during the Franco years, they were banned. When the old man was dying he knew that he had to hand over power and chose Royalty rather than the rabble.

They couldn’t handle it and put in the socialists, Felipe, I think. He wasn’t a bad guy, nor were the ones that followed him.

Spain has been a democracy for 35 years, they’re way behind the rest of the democratised world and it will take them a few more years to catch up.

Dick Dasterdly Mar 31st 2011 11:46 am

Re: The Future King Charles in Spain
 

Originally Posted by HBG (Post 9278005)
The Spanish Royals weren’t around during the Franco years, they were banned. When the old man was dying he knew that he had to hand over power and chose Royalty rather than the rabble.

They couldn’t handle it and put in the socialists, Felipe, I think. He wasn’t a bad guy, nor were the ones that followed him.

Spain has been a democracy for 35 years, they’re way behind the rest of the democratised world and it will take them a few more years to catch up.

The more generally accepted version is that Franco spent his later years grooming Carlos to take over, in the belief that first he would be accepted by the ppl.and second he would carry on in his footsteps.
However though Carlos appeared to be going along with him, he always had his own agenda, as had a few of his close associates, with a view to returning Spain to a more democratic society.
Under very difficult circumstances he has continued to cautiously play out his role in a wise and sensible manner.

Not quite sure what you mean about catching up with the rest of the democratised world ?
Maybe they don't want to. Maybe they have their own views about what democracy should be.
They will never stand in line and say yes sir, no sir,three bags full sir and dot al the I's and cross all the T's, like many N.Europeans, because it's simply not their way, from a long, long time before Franco ever came on the scene, hence a large black economy, dodgy dealing and corruption at all levels, but on the positive side a tendancy to continue to run their lives in their own way, as they see fit.
They just don't see things exactly as we do and likely never will, but they're none the worse ppl.for all that.

Dick Dasterdly Mar 31st 2011 12:04 pm

Re: The Future King Charles in Spain
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 9277576)
I love it when people say that Charles is out of touch.... I don't see too many critics of him or any politicians running a charitable foundation to help underprivileged and forgotten kids. Still, don't let that get in the way of a decent judgmental Spain forum session eh?

To say he was out of touch would be something of an understatement until shortly after Di's funeral.
His total disregard for others opinions, his arrogance and uncaring nature in many respects apart than his shambolic relationship with Diana, stood out like a sore thumb for all to see.
Has the leopard changed it's spots ?
I very much doubt it.
What happened was the beginning of a massive P.R. campaign which is still continuing today, in an effort to restore his sad reputation.
All these do gooder campaigns are carefully organised on his behalf, whilst all he has to do is nod his head,flick his fingers or say a few fine words which have all been carefully prepared for him, and even at doing that he is absolutely hopeless, despite having had most of his life with little else to do but practice.

Lenox Mar 31st 2011 5:08 pm

Re: The Future King Charles in Spain
 
I think Charles' job - or function if you prefer - is to be an inspiration to us all, his loyal subjects and British passport holders.
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