Fremasonry in Spain?
Dec 6th 2006, 11:18 pm
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Re: Fremasonry in Spain?
Would Graham Gray, Rugbymatt or poolounger, in fact anyone give me an e-mail adress or webite of any lodges in the vicinity of Mill Hill, London NW7.
I have looked at the website of the " Grand Lodge of England " to no avail
I think most of you know by now I am very concerened for my eldely mother.
Thank you in advance,
Wendy x
I have looked at the website of the " Grand Lodge of England " to no avail
I think most of you know by now I am very concerened for my eldely mother.
Thank you in advance,
Wendy x
Dec 6th 2006, 11:31 pm
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Re: Fremasonry in Spain?
Originally Posted by Wendy Nesbeth
Would Graham Gray, Rugbymatt or poolounger, in fact anyone give me an e-mail adress or webite of any lodges in the vicinity of Mill Hill, London NW7.
I have looked at the website of the " Grand Lodge of England " to no avail
I think most of you know by now I am very concerened for my eldely mother.
Thank you in advance,
Wendy x
I have looked at the website of the " Grand Lodge of England " to no avail
I think most of you know by now I am very concerened for my eldely mother.
Thank you in advance,
Wendy x
Hi Wendy,
I'm not that good on London sites and places, more of a country boy, but this link should help you if you know a bit more about London than i do!
Good luck.
http://www.grandlodge-england.org/se...on-lodges1.htm
Dec 7th 2006, 7:16 am
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Re: Fremasonry in Spain?
Originally Posted by Wendy Nesbeth
Would Graham Gray, Rugbymatt or poolounger, in fact anyone give me an e-mail adress or webite of any lodges in the vicinity of Mill Hill, London NW7.
I have looked at the website of the " Grand Lodge of England " to no avail
I think most of you know by now I am very concerened for my eldely mother.
Thank you in advance,
Wendy x
I have looked at the website of the " Grand Lodge of England " to no avail
I think most of you know by now I am very concerened for my eldely mother.
Thank you in advance,
Wendy x
Dont know anything about Masons, but off of That kind rugbymatts list, the best one to contact would be HERE When I was born in Mill Hill 63 years ago I am sure it was in Middlesex, but now see it has a London postcade.
There is an email address on the page.If not that link maybe this one HERE
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Dec 7th 2006, 10:17 am
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Re: Fremasonry in Spain?
Originally Posted by Wendy Nesbeth
Would Graham Gray, Rugbymatt or poolounger, in fact anyone give me an e-mail adress or webite of any lodges in the vicinity of Mill Hill, London NW7.
I have looked at the website of the " Grand Lodge of England " to no avail
I think most of you know by now I am very concerened for my eldely mother.
Thank you in advance,
Wendy x
I have looked at the website of the " Grand Lodge of England " to no avail
I think most of you know by now I am very concerened for my eldely mother.
Thank you in advance,
Wendy x
Dec 7th 2006, 10:37 am
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Re: Fremasonry in Spain?
Originally Posted by rugbymatt
Poollounger i think that we do!
OK not the Mafia bit since it is an illegal organisation that has been responsible for the death of thousands, but for the rest then yes!
We all want fame and fortune, not necessary in that order but we want it, the idea that someone else gets more than us is an intrinsic part of why we build people up, only to pull them down. Its known as the Sandcastle Syndrome.
You see it all the time in the tabloids. For years they hounded Diana, then when she died they ran massive tributes to her. Its human nature, people say it is British nature but i dont believe that.
Jealousy is a vile emotion, it drives us to hatred and resentment, we see that someone else gets something and the green eyed monster rears its ugly head.
Its true that members of the brotherhood get special privileges, they get preferential treatment, but from other brothers, thats the point of being in a brotherhood!
I know of one brother who lost everything in a very bitter divorce, the others rallied and made sure he wanted for nothing. I have to ask, whats wrong with that?
OK not the Mafia bit since it is an illegal organisation that has been responsible for the death of thousands, but for the rest then yes!
We all want fame and fortune, not necessary in that order but we want it, the idea that someone else gets more than us is an intrinsic part of why we build people up, only to pull them down. Its known as the Sandcastle Syndrome.
You see it all the time in the tabloids. For years they hounded Diana, then when she died they ran massive tributes to her. Its human nature, people say it is British nature but i dont believe that.
Jealousy is a vile emotion, it drives us to hatred and resentment, we see that someone else gets something and the green eyed monster rears its ugly head.
Its true that members of the brotherhood get special privileges, they get preferential treatment, but from other brothers, thats the point of being in a brotherhood!
I know of one brother who lost everything in a very bitter divorce, the others rallied and made sure he wanted for nothing. I have to ask, whats wrong with that?
As I have said before I am sure that the majority of masons are well meaning honourable men, tainted by the misdeeds of the few. These are the ones who get max publicity. And stop reading the tabloids..There is a great article elsewhere on this forum by a couple who returned from Australia and have found contentment living in the south of England, and he says that he makes a point of not reading the Express/Mail !!
Dec 7th 2006, 10:45 am
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Re: Fremasonry in Spain?
Originally Posted by poollounger
I guess we will just have to disagree!! To say that everyone is envious of others who have more is ludicrous and infers that material trappings are all that we aspire to. I have on occasion rubbed shoulders with the rich and famous and I can honestly say that I do not envy fame and fortune one little bit. In fact I find much to admire in those who find joy in simple pleasures. People who achieve the status you describe are often driven by demons that the average person does not have, those demons which turn them into the monsters and high achievers. I could go on and on..
As I have said before I am sure that the majority of masons are well meaning honourable men, tainted by the misdeeds of the few. These are the ones who get max publicity. And stop reading the tabloids..There is a great article elsewhere on this forum by a couple who returned from Australia and have found contentment living in the south of England, and he says that he makes a point of not reading the Express/Mail !!
As I have said before I am sure that the majority of masons are well meaning honourable men, tainted by the misdeeds of the few. These are the ones who get max publicity. And stop reading the tabloids..There is a great article elsewhere on this forum by a couple who returned from Australia and have found contentment living in the south of England, and he says that he makes a point of not reading the Express/Mail !!
Good points but I think I may have miss written somewhere because what I meant to say is that as human beings we want to belong, and I think that when there is exclusion we feel embittered
Dec 7th 2006, 11:11 am
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Re: Fremasonry in Spain?
Originally Posted by rugbymatt
Good points but I think I may have miss written somewhere because what I meant to say is that as human beings we want to belong, and I think that when there is exclusion we feel embittered
Thats true, and I think most humans are the same like you say, I want to belong to the big lottery winners and I can`t, so I am well embittered
Last edited by jdr; Dec 7th 2006 at 11:12 am. Reason: Its such a good word I mis-spelt it.
Dec 7th 2006, 12:53 pm
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Re: Fremasonry in Spain?
Originally Posted by rugbymatt
Good points but I think I may have miss written somewhere because what I meant to say is that as human beings we want to belong, and I think that when there is exclusion we feel embittered
You should have written, "Embitterment can be a common reaction where some people are excluded from groups that they have a desire to belong to" - or something of that ilk.
In short, your statement is only partially true.
There are certainly people that would like to belong to certain groups and who are excluded, but who can handle that exclusion philosophically and with grace and there are those that can't.
There are also certainly many people who would not touch fame with a bargepole and as for fortune, that is in the eye of the beholder. To some it's good health, family and a reasonable income and they aspire to no more since the first two of these gives them all the joy that they seek in life and the latter is just a necessity since we all need to eat to live.
Groups I don't have any aspiration to belong to:
Freemasons (doesn't interest me, I'm too independent)
Famous people (I value my privacy too much)
Rich people (all that guilt I would have would be too much baggage)
However, any organisation that gathers together (whether exclusively, or otherwise) to help either its own and/or others without prejudice to those who are not part of the same, is of course to be commended.
Dec 7th 2006, 2:02 pm
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Re: Fremasonry in Spain?
Originally Posted by Unexpat
Not quite. I'm with PoolLounger.
You should have written, "Embitterment can be a common reaction where some people are excluded from groups that they have a desire to belong to" - or something of that ilk.
In short, your statement is only partially true.
There are certainly people that would like to belong to certain groups and who are excluded, but who can handle that exclusion philosophically and with grace and there are those that can't.
There are also certainly many people who would not touch fame with a bargepole and as for fortune, that is in the eye of the beholder. To some it's good health, family and a reasonable income and they aspire to no more since the first two of these gives them all the joy that they seek in life and the latter is just a necessity since we all need to eat to live.
Groups I don't have any aspiration to belong to:
Freemasons (doesn't interest me, I'm too independent)
Famous people (I value my privacy too much)
Rich people (all that guilt I would have would be too much baggage)
However, any organisation that gathers together (whether exclusively, or otherwise) to help either its own and/or others without prejudice to those who are not part of the same, is of course to be commended.
You should have written, "Embitterment can be a common reaction where some people are excluded from groups that they have a desire to belong to" - or something of that ilk.
In short, your statement is only partially true.
There are certainly people that would like to belong to certain groups and who are excluded, but who can handle that exclusion philosophically and with grace and there are those that can't.
There are also certainly many people who would not touch fame with a bargepole and as for fortune, that is in the eye of the beholder. To some it's good health, family and a reasonable income and they aspire to no more since the first two of these gives them all the joy that they seek in life and the latter is just a necessity since we all need to eat to live.
Groups I don't have any aspiration to belong to:
Freemasons (doesn't interest me, I'm too independent)
Famous people (I value my privacy too much)
Rich people (all that guilt I would have would be too much baggage)
However, any organisation that gathers together (whether exclusively, or otherwise) to help either its own and/or others without prejudice to those who are not part of the same, is of course to be commended.
I stand corrected, now i can un subscribe.
All i said was that its human nature, not that everyone of the 6,500,000,000 people are the same, this forum is proof of that.
Dec 7th 2006, 2:11 pm
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Re: Fremasonry in Spain?
Originally Posted by rugbymatt
I stand corrected, now i can un subscribe.
All i said was that its human nature, not that everyone of the 6,500,000,000 people are the same, this forum is proof of that.
All i said was that its human nature, not that everyone of the 6,500,000,000 people are the same, this forum is proof of that.
How boring would that be, if we were all the same
Dec 7th 2006, 2:21 pm
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Re: Fremasonry in Spain?
Originally Posted by rugbymatt
I stand corrected, now i can un subscribe.
All i said was that its human nature, not that everyone of the 6,500,000,000 people are the same, this forum is proof of that.
All i said was that its human nature, not that everyone of the 6,500,000,000 people are the same, this forum is proof of that.
Dec 7th 2006, 7:31 pm
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Re: Fremasonry in Spain?
Originally Posted by Andy Pipken
I wonder if there is some way I could get all those 6,500,000,000 people to give me 1 euro each !!
Dec 11th 2006, 2:08 pm
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Re: Fremasonry in Spain?
Originally Posted by Gray C
Hi
Hoping to move to Spain soon. I was wondering if (UGLE) masonry was prevalent in Spain?
I think it would be a good means of making new friends/contacts and even finding part time work (the latter would be a bonus really).
I know many of you will not know the answer to this but I expect there may be some fellow brethren frequenting this forum?
Graham
Hoping to move to Spain soon. I was wondering if (UGLE) masonry was prevalent in Spain?
I think it would be a good means of making new friends/contacts and even finding part time work (the latter would be a bonus really).
I know many of you will not know the answer to this but I expect there may be some fellow brethren frequenting this forum?
Graham
Dec 11th 2006, 5:27 pm
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Re: Fremasonry in Spain?
Originally Posted by no lecee jon
please can you contact grand lodge in London and they will will give you a list, there is a lodge in Jerez a great way to in prove your Spanish and get involved in local things w.bro
Many thanks
Graham
Dec 12th 2006, 1:35 pm
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Re: Fremasonry in Spain?
Originally Posted by Gray C
W Bro
Many thanks
Graham
Many thanks
Graham