Fitting anti-cal devices to domestic water inlets
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Re: Fitting anti-cal devices to domestic water inlets
Do you think that if I put one on my wrist it might prevent my arteries furring up?
I'm not questioning your personal experience, but you do seem to be in the minority. There is another interesting article here
Magnetic Water and Fuel Treatment: Myth, Magic, or Mainstream Science? - CSI
I'm not questioning your personal experience, but you do seem to be in the minority. There is another interesting article here
Magnetic Water and Fuel Treatment: Myth, Magic, or Mainstream Science? - CSI
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To be honest I have stuck a couple of the magnets on the pipe into my water heater. I have no idea if they do anything or are like snake oil. However my theory was they cost me very little and certainly can't do any harm. But yes it is very much an unknown .
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I have magnets arranged in a plastic 2 piece holder that fits over my main supply, it was there when I moved in.
I have no idea if it works, but I can't imagine that if I removed it there would be any more deposits than we currently get
I have no idea if it works, but I can't imagine that if I removed it there would be any more deposits than we currently get
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Re: Fitting anti-cal devices to domestic water inlets
Found this:
Limescale... The causes and solutions
which seems to expain the theory, but still seemes more like a gimmick than a solution. Has anybody weighed up costs of fitting/running/maintaining, ion exchange column ( water softener) against cost of renewing heater element when necessary.
Pete.
Limescale... The causes and solutions
which seems to expain the theory, but still seemes more like a gimmick than a solution. Has anybody weighed up costs of fitting/running/maintaining, ion exchange column ( water softener) against cost of renewing heater element when necessary.
Pete.
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Re: Fitting anti-cal devices to domestic water inlets
Found this:
Limescale... The causes and solutions
which seems to expain the theory, but still seemes more like a gimmick than a solution. Has anybody weighed up costs of fitting/running/maintaining, ion exchange column ( water softener) against cost of renewing heater element when necessary.
Pete.
Limescale... The causes and solutions
which seems to expain the theory, but still seemes more like a gimmick than a solution. Has anybody weighed up costs of fitting/running/maintaining, ion exchange column ( water softener) against cost of renewing heater element when necessary.
Pete.
I am also sceptical that water is a good enough conductor to generate electricity when moved through a magnetic field.
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That's interesting because it is the first time I have read anything that has an even slightly plausible explanation for why magnets might have any effect at all, but even that article concedes that the effect is localized to the magnets and is proportional to the flow of the water.
I am also sceptical that water is a good enough conductor to generate electricity when moved through a magnetic field.
I am also sceptical that water is a good enough conductor to generate electricity when moved through a magnetic field.
#22
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Save money by not buying the magnets, we have them fitted to our inlet pipe and they are a total waste of time, the amount of cal we get has to be seen to be believed.
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Hi folks after reading this post i thought i would post a item we used to do with rolls royce generator engines which was supplied with a fresh water system to keep them cool we had a carbon filter in the system to stop limescale build up and had to change it once every five years !and it worked well i will see if these are stil availible and post again but i can confirm that having worked on these engines all over the world the filter system did work well and some of the countrys i have worked in the water in the main pipes was more like muddy water than clean water !
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Those filter systems just remove the crap from the water. The Cal is dissolved in the water and a filter does not remove it.
We have very hard water and use a proper water softener. We also have a "crap" filter but we have not needed to change it in 14 years.
There is no type of filter that will remove Cal from the water as it is dissolved. Filters remove particulate matter.
We have very hard water and use a proper water softener. We also have a "crap" filter but we have not needed to change it in 14 years.
There is no type of filter that will remove Cal from the water as it is dissolved. Filters remove particulate matter.
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Re: Fitting anti-cal devices to domestic water inlets
Those filter systems just remove the crap from the water. The Cal is dissolved in the water and a filter does not remove it.
We have very hard water and use a proper water softener. We also have a "crap" filter but we have not needed to change it in 14 years.
There is no type of filter that will remove Cal from the water as it is dissolved. Filters remove particulate matter.
We have very hard water and use a proper water softener. We also have a "crap" filter but we have not needed to change it in 14 years.
There is no type of filter that will remove Cal from the water as it is dissolved. Filters remove particulate matter.
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Incorrect, an ion exchange column "exchanges" (removes) calcium and magnesium ions for (replaces them with) sodium ions, and, to cut a long story short, sodium carbonate is soluble so doesn't create lime scale.
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When we needed pure deionised water in the lab I worked in ( many many) years ago. The ion exchange column, exchanged the Calcium ( anions) for hydrogen ( anions ) and carbonate ( cations) for hydroxide ( cations ) OK it was pretty specialised, but the result was pure water!
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Correct, and of course the pH of the water is lower for Sodium Carbonate, than Calcium Carbonate. Is there some kind of acidity regulator included in the rock salt. Sodium Carbonate is the basis of washing powder.