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Old Jul 29th 2013, 11:37 pm
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I am new to the forum so an introduction.
!5 years with BA cabin crew flying around the world an interlude with a bistro in Jersey and a riverside pub in Salisbury and the last 15 years sailing in the med then the caribbean based in Venezuela.
Sold the boat want to go back to what I know best the hospitality business .
So I am looking for a good sized old Finca outside Javea with maybe potential to convert part of the property into self contained areas I also love to cater and I do a super Brunch Mimosas Bloody Marys, smoked salmon, scrambled eggs, fritata a full English etc.
What I would like is for you to keep an eye open for the right property at not a silly price because I will have to spend to make the place look and feel great.
I am somebody who when they are driving or walking around who sees a place and thinks thats got potential, perhaps because of my parents who lived by doing places up and selling them.
If you are like minded and see somewhere that you think would make a good rural gite please let me know I will pay a thousand dollars for the info if I complete that money lodged with a third party during any negotiations.
My wife and I are completing the sale of our boat and home(sniff) and we will be in Spain to get serious fro about the start of October,.

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Originally Posted by salisbury
I am new to the forum so an introduction.
!5 years with BA cabin crew flying around the world an interlude with a bistro in Jersey and a riverside pub in Salisbury and the last 15 years sailing in the med then the caribbean based in Venezuela.
Sold the boat want to go back to what I know best the hospitality business .
So I am looking for a good sized old Finca outside Javea with maybe potential to convert part of the property into self contained areas I also love to cater and I do a super Brunch Mimosas Bloody Marys, smoked salmon, scrambled eggs, fritata a full English etc.
What I would like is for you to keep an eye open for the right property at not a silly price because I will have to spend to make the place look and feel great.
I am somebody who when they are driving or walking around who sees a place and thinks thats got potential, perhaps because of my parents who lived by doing places up and selling them.
If you are like minded and see somewhere that you think would make a good rural gite please let me know I will pay a thousand dollars for the info if I complete that money lodged with a third party during any negotiations.
My wife and I are completing the sale of our boat and home(sniff) and we will be in Spain to get serious fro about the start of October,.

Tim
Surely that is a job for you and not for random people on here. Bear in mind there will be hoops on hoops for you to get through to get a licence, and not that many b&bs can even get licenced. Does the offer stand if you buy one of the thousands of illegal properties, and find 6 months after you have opened that either a family claims ownership, of the local council close it down because it shouldn't be there in the first place.

I suggest you do an enormous amount of research to find a suitable area, then do a similar amount to find out whether it is legal, and then try getting the relevant licenses. You could be lucky and get a good deal, but I suspect that you are more likely to lose your money.

Sorry to sound negative, but with the current situation in Spain, there are many trying, and failing.
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Thanks for the advice.That is what I need because you are living in Spain and know the local conditions.
I have been based in Venezuela where everything is possible if you contact the right people and are willing to grease palms not the same in Europe.
We can but look around so we will rent a house for a few months and find out what is possible.I am too old to be illegal,not my style do it right or do not bother 15 years living on a yacht has taught me that!If something bad can happen it will!
Is there not a land registry office where you can check title?
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Originally Posted by salisbury
Thanks for the advice.That is what I need because you are living in Spain and know the local conditions.
I have been based in Venezuela where everything is possible if you contact the right people and are willing to grease palms not the same in Europe.
We can but look around so we will rent a house for a few months and find out what is possible.I am too old to be illegal,not my style do it right or do not bother 15 years living on a yacht has taught me that!If something bad can happen it will!
Is there not a land registry office where you can check title?
In Spain, if you know the right people, anything is possible, at least until they leave office, then all that greasing may well become a very slippery slope.
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Originally Posted by salisbury
Thanks for the advice.That is what I need because you are living in Spain and know the local conditions.
I have been based in Venezuela where everything is possible if you contact the right people and are willing to grease palms not the same in Europe.
We can but look around so we will rent a house for a few months and find out what is possible.I am too old to be illegal,not my style do it right or do not bother 15 years living on a yacht has taught me that!If something bad can happen it will!
Is there not a land registry office where you can check title?
oh yes, that is a normal part of the purchase sequence, but it doesn't record if the house has been built illegally, and may only record who owns the land not the building on it.....
and if the plot is Rural then subject to certain conditions it is likely to be illegal anyway. Some here have bought legal rurals but as I have already posted elsewhere today, illegals abound, have abounded for a decade or more and are still being built, bought and sold.

paperwork here takes forever, even someone with a clear desk can take several months to process something - well thats how long it took my predecessor! And its funny how many people take over jobs from relatives, or are given jobs by relatives.

rent a house, look around, get the feel of the place for summer and winter and move on if you feel its not right.

its all how "right" it is for you, not how right it is for me, him or her.
perhaps there are a few estate agents around who would love to take your money - but try the Spanish, even if there are language difficulties they appear to be more honest than the English ones IME.

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Yes I heard that Mike, we were in Marbella Marina when the Jesus Gill saga happened. At least I think that was his name.
Mike are you from Lincolnshire is that the MarkLincs . Because I am ayellow belly A meggie actualy
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Yes I heard that Mike, we were in Marbella Marina when the Jesus Gill saga happened. At least I think that was his name.
Mike are you from Lincolnshire is that the MarkLincs . Because I am ayellow belly A meggie actualy
yes, a true yellow belly, born in Lincoln.
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I have been based in Venezuela where everything is possible if you contact the right people and are willing to grease palms not the same in Europe.
Currently around 1,600 cases of corruption before the Spanish courts and the list grows by the day. A report out this week reckons corruption in Spain is costing the country 40,000 million, in part due to lack of investment from overseas, they don't trust them! Spain is not a lot different to South America, you'll feel at home.
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En los tribunales se tramitan más de 1.600 casos de corrupción y no pasa un día sin que afloren titulares involucrando a alcaldes, consejeros, partidos políticos, hasta a la Casa Real en procesos judiciales por abuso de poder.
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I am from Cleethorpes, the old fishing Meggies,my grandpop fished the Humber in the 1800s tough old devils.
The nearest I got to Lincoln was my dad wanted to buy in Louth in the 60s he loved Louth I think because the pubs were open all day on Market day wednesday!!
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I am from Cleethorpes, the old fishing Meggies,my grandpop fished the Humber in the 1800s tough old devils.
The nearest I got to Lincoln was my dad wanted to buy in Louth in the 60s he loved Louth I think because the pubs were open all day on Market day wednesday!!
I Love Louth as well, great shopping..
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Did you ever go to the market on a wednesday Mike.
Iremember it well as a kid stuck in the car with a bag of Smiths crisps the ones with the blue bag of salt and a bottle of dandelion amd burdock while my old man spent the day in the pub with his cronies
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Did you ever go to the market on a wednesday Mike.
Iremember it well as a kid stuck in the car with a bag of Smiths crisps the ones with the blue bag of salt and a bottle of dandelion amd burdock while my old man spent the day in the pub with his cronies
and then drove you home, lol, those were the day's
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Originally Posted by salisbury
Did you ever go to the market on a wednesday Mike.
Iremember it well as a kid stuck in the car with a bag of Smiths crisps the ones with the blue bag of salt and a bottle of dandelion amd burdock while my old man spent the day in the pub with his cronies
Yes, often. I used to live in Market Rasen as well, so not far to travel.
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