Finca in Javea
 

I am new to the forum so an introduction.
!5 years with BA cabin crew flying around the world an interlude with a bistro in Jersey and a riverside pub in Salisbury and the last 15 years sailing in the med then the caribbean based in Venezuela.
Sold the boat want to go back to what I know best the hospitality business .
So I am looking for a good sized old Finca outside Javea with maybe potential to convert part of the property into self contained areas I also love to cater and I do a super Brunch Mimosas Bloody Marys, smoked salmon, scrambled eggs, fritata a full English etc.
What I would like is for you to keep an eye open for the right property at not a silly price because I will have to spend to make the place look and feel great.
I am somebody who when they are driving or walking around who sees a place and thinks thats got potential, perhaps because of my parents who lived by doing places up and selling them.
If you are like minded and see somewhere that you think would make a good rural gite please let me know I will pay a thousand dollars for the info if I complete that money lodged with a third party during any negotiations.
My wife and I are completing the sale of our boat and home(sniff) and we will be in Spain to get serious fro about the start of October,.

Tim

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As Concierge for the Spanish section of BE I would like to say hello and welcome.

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Please let me know if you need any further help.

Rosemary

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TThank you Rosemary

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Surely that is a job for you and not for random people on here. Bear in mind there will be hoops on hoops for you to get through to get a licence, and not that many b&bs can even get licenced. Does the offer stand if you buy one of the thousands of illegal properties, and find 6 months after you have opened that either a family claims ownership, of the local council close it down because it shouldn't be there in the first place.

I suggest you do an enormous amount of research to find a suitable area, then do a similar amount to find out whether it is legal, and then try getting the relevant licenses. You could be lucky and get a good deal, but I suspect that you are more likely to lose your money.

Sorry to sound negative, but with the current situation in Spain, there are many trying, and failing.

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Thanks for the advice.That is what I need because you are living in Spain and know the local conditions.
I have been based in Venezuela where everything is possible if you contact the right people and are willing to grease palms not the same in Europe.
We can but look around so we will rent a house for a few months and find out what is possible.I am too old to be illegal,not my style do it right or do not bother 15 years living on a yacht has taught me that!If something bad can happen it will!
Is there not a land registry office where you can check title?

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In Spain, if you know the right people, anything is possible, at least until they leave office, then all that greasing may well become a very slippery slope.

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oh yes, that is a normal part of the purchase sequence, but it doesn't record if the house has been built illegally, and may only record who owns the land not the building on it.....
and if the plot is Rural then subject to certain conditions it is likely to be illegal anyway. Some here have bought legal rurals but as I have already posted elsewhere today, illegals abound, have abounded for a decade or more and are still being built, bought and sold.

paperwork here takes forever, even someone with a clear desk can take several months to process something - well thats how long it took my predecessor! And its funny how many people take over jobs from relatives, or are given jobs by relatives.

rent a house, look around, get the feel of the place for summer and winter and move on if you feel its not right.

its all how "right" it is for you, not how right it is for me, him or her.
perhaps there are a few estate agents around who would love to take your money - but try the Spanish, even if there are language difficulties they appear to be more honest than the English ones IME.

rgds

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Yes I heard that Mike, we were in Marbella Marina when the Jesus Gill saga happened. At least I think that was his name.
Mike are you from Lincolnshire is that the MarkLincs . Because I am ayellow belly A meggie actualy

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yes, a true yellow belly, born in Lincoln.

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Currently around 1,600 cases of corruption before the Spanish courts and the list grows by the day. A report out this week reckons corruption in Spain is costing the country 40,000 million, in part due to lack of investment from overseas, they don't trust them! Spain is not a lot different to South America, you'll feel at home. ;)
El coste social de la corrupción en España se eleva a 40.000 millones

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I am from Cleethorpes, the old fishing Meggies,my grandpop fished the Humber in the 1800s tough old devils.
The nearest I got to Lincoln was my dad wanted to buy in Louth in the 60s he loved Louth I think because the pubs were open all day on Market day wednesday!!

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I Love Louth as well, great shopping..

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Did you ever go to the market on a wednesday Mike.
Iremember it well as a kid stuck in the car with a bag of Smiths crisps the ones with the blue bag of salt and a bottle of dandelion amd burdock while my old man spent the day in the pub with his cronies

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and then drove you home, lol, those were the day's

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Yes, often. I used to live in Market Rasen as well, so not far to travel.

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Funny that Andy yes he did drive home and the old devil smoked a pipe Erinmore flake The inside of his old Austin was a nightmare!! he wore a flat cap,and with his pipe clenched in his teeth, belching clouds of smoke and him belching worthington E and driving so slow,It was not my favorite day of the week.

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The B&B trade has been done to death in Spain. Remember those old TV programmes everyone and their grandmothers wanted to do it.

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I am sure it has Jackie I stopped going to Majrca in the seventies because it was too touristy.
I am not looking for a Band B but more of a Gite. No interest in sharing a house no matter how spacious with people after 15 years on a Yacht the last one was 49 ft it still feels aweful small.
i want to have a couple of self contained places attached to the main house.
Like anything you may have a good idea but marketing it is the key and that is something I think I can do
I had a large Marina flat and with VRBO Home and Away etc we did okay.The big problem was it was in Venezuela and we had armed guards on our gates and I knew personally seven people over a four year period who were shot from the marina so it was not exactly a tourist hot spot!!
Plus I know how to market to BA staff they are a good source of punters as they can travel easily.
I am not looking to make money just maybe pay the overheads.
For me that is not work I was brought up in a Band B then we had a country club in humberstone lincs inbetween doing my Grammar School homework I was playing three card brag.
Then I had an Ego Ronay and Good food guide bistro in Jersey and a riverbank pub in the centre of Salisbury.
Its what I do and enjoy doing believe me its not the money I just like flapping my gob as my darling Yorkshire born wife says so foer meit is not work plus I know how to do places up to look very very nice indeed.
My brother was the Duke of Bedfords interior designer at one time and a little bit has rubbed off Onlya little bit but enough

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Hey Jackie I just noticed you had fifteen years in Marbella.
My first trip out of the UK was to Marbella.
I worked seasonal at the airport in Jersey and two of us hitched down to Marbella and spent the winter in the youth hostel there great memories.
That was in 1966 and they were building the marina and we lived all in on 50 p a day Wine was one peseta a glass, egg and chips a shilling

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Not to mention the price of land then:D My grandfather as always on about being offered shares in the building of a Marina at Sotogrande and he turned it down as he thought it was too far off the tourist track!

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I would love to hear from anybody who actually lives or lived in Javea just to get a feel for the place

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I'm sure Lynn will be along soon to help. :thumbup:

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You may be better off buying a run down B&B and doing it up. I suspect there are plenty for sale and all the licences etc.may be in place.

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my dad used to smoke Babies Bottom
:lol:

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It sounds as though that is the way to go Johnnyone.

The liscences are I think going to be extremely important and crucial.
Plus if somebody has already been operating certain aspects will have been covered

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No idea what babies bottom is!!!

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it was a brand of pipe tobacco, haven't heard of it for years - but I have never smoked so it is really all lost to me as well.

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there are other aspects that have to be considered as a b&B or just a plain let property must have certain safety features such as Smoke Alarm, fire extinguishers and IIRC emergency lighting - especially at the final exits.
all these are costs to be considered, if you buy ready set up these should already be in place.

don't think Spain has the French (or is it Italian) rule of fencing around a pool.

:confused:

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They do, under certain circumstances, such as if the public could have access to it.

Also pools of a certain size on urbanisations have complex rules about safety, access and lifeguards.

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Can we talk about location.
I have only called in on my yacht and I have to say I cannot remember the place though my wife remembers something about the fuel dock.
I would hope to get a small boat I woulkd imagine that it is very difficult to get a say 10 mtr mooring .
The reason I mention location is that I really like to be as close as possible to a small town. I am a villager at heart not a townie.
I am reading about Jalon Valley and there are some nice properties already licenced there but it sounds beautiful but a bit out in the sticks.