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Re: Falklands
Fortunate there weren't people like some of you around years ago, we would have been ruled by Germany now:o
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Re: Falklands
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 9985845)
Fortunate there weren't people like some of you around years ago, we would have been ruled by Germany now:o
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Re: Falklands
We are ruled by Germany now.
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Re: Falklands
Originally Posted by Lenox
(Post 9985691)
The Spanish press has been droning on about the Falklands recently - firstly because of the brotherly hispano thing with the Argentinians, and secondly, of course, to compare, contrast and raise the Gib question again (and again...). One writer in El Mundo said yesterday that Mrs Thatcher did everyone a favour, getting rid of Galtieri, dictatorships and tossing prisoners out of helicopters, but another writer appeared today to disagree.
Today's El Mundo 'Malvinas' headline: Cristina Fernández: 'Es una injusticia que en el siglo XXI haya enclaves coloniales' (Yawn!) |
Re: Falklands
Originally Posted by steviedeluxe
(Post 9985821)
Maybe we had to do something when attacked back in the 80s. But a sensible government would negotiate a gradual hand-over that guaranteed existing islanders the right to stay or to return to the UK (before it splits up!)
The Falklands has been governed by the UK, for longer than Argentina has existed as a country. Why should it be handed over to Argentina? Just because it happens to be near by I suppose? |
Re: Falklands
Originally Posted by Fredbargate
(Post 9985718)
When will they ever learn?
The only way to achieve the integration of the Falklands into Argentina or Gibraltar into Spain is to woo the natives. Sabre rattling , frontier closures , blockades etc. will they never learn. How many of you have walked into a bar, slapped a woman in the face, kicked her in the crutch and then asked her to come to bed with you successfully? |
Re: Falklands
Originally Posted by playamonte
(Post 9986295)
Ain't that a fact & had they approached the Islands/British government with good intentions from the off its odds on that the Islands would most probably now be run by them or something like that.
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Re: Falklands
Originally Posted by steviedeluxe
(Post 9985747)
Same as the Brits view the Isle of Wight or even northern Ireland I imagine. Citizens there have same rights and ability to vote in national elections, unlike colonies and military bases like Gib.
Of course the UK doesn't always look after its colonies. Look up Diego Garcia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depopul...f_Diego_Garcia As to the rights of the local Chagosians, well whatever the FCO says happens, they couldnt care less about anyone. The handing back of a barren rock that had been gifted in perpetuity to the Queen and all her descendents is another example of the mind set in that place. Palmerston said he didnt see any reason for it and that is the mindset of the place even now. |
Re: Falklands
We should bow to this commentator, a wise man who was there at the time.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ooked-war.html |
Re: Falklands
Originally Posted by steviedeluxe
(Post 9985821)
Unless it's people from Diego Garcia or Hong Kong...ok so it wasn't feasible to take on China but can we drop the pretence we are acting in the interests of people?
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Re: Falklands
Originally Posted by kimilseung
(Post 9985736)
In light of Spanish views on Falklands and Gibraltar; how does the Spanish media treat the African possessions of Spain?
Originally Posted by Londonuck
(Post 9986262)
The hypocrisy from all the various countries is unbelievable. Ask the Spanish about Perejil they 'own' off Morocco.
The answer is always the same. " that is different" |
Re: Falklands
Originally Posted by agoreira
(Post 9986402)
Not a question of being feasible or not re taking on the Chinese, HK and the New Territories were only ever on a 99 year lease, once that expired, they were always going to be returned to China.
The Island of Hong Kong was ceeded in perpetuity under the Treaties of Chuenpee (1841) and Nanking (1842) Following an assassination attempt on the Governor whilst visiting Kowloon in 1860 the 5sq miles (IIRC) around the place where it happened were also ceeded in perpetuity. The man accused of the attempt was executed as were all his relatives in every direction irrespective of their involvement. (to totally eradicate the family line) The New Territories were leased under a 99 year lease and these were the only part that was required to be returned. A part of Manuchuria, originally known as East Tartary, was ceeded to Russia but has never been returned as is still formally part of the USSR. |
Re: Falklands
Originally Posted by Fredbargate
(Post 9986410)
Whenever the question of Gibraltar comes up in conversation with Spaniards I ask them about Ceuta and Melilla.
The answer is always the same. " that is different" |
Re: Falklands
Originally Posted by Fredbargate
(Post 9986410)
Whenever the question of Gibraltar comes up in conversation with Spaniards I ask them about Ceuta and Melilla.
The answer is always the same. " that is different" Incidentally Gibraltar will never come under Spanish rule (unless by some weird set of occurences Spain becomes the world superpower). If the UK left Gibraltar today, you can bet the Americans would walk in by tomorrow. It's too important as a military base. |
Re: Falklands
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
(Post 9985858)
Yeh, he'd likely have been singing the praises of Chamberlain as well.
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