Exact speeds that will trigger cameras
Feb 16th 2018 | 9:42 am
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Exact speeds that will trigger cameras
https://www.euroweeklynews.com/news/...meras-in-spain
Under 100 KPH the camera will trigger at 7 KPH above posted limit.
100 KPH and over the camera will trigger at 7% above posted limit.
Under 100 KPH the camera will trigger at 7 KPH above posted limit.
100 KPH and over the camera will trigger at 7% above posted limit.
Feb 16th 2018 | 7:22 pm
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Re: Exact speeds that will trigger cameras
https://www.euroweeklynews.com/news/...meras-in-spain
Under 100 KPH the camera will trigger at 7 KPH above posted limit.
100 KPH and over the camera will trigger at 7% above posted limit.
Under 100 KPH the camera will trigger at 7 KPH above posted limit.
100 KPH and over the camera will trigger at 7% above posted limit.
This one does:-
https://www.euroweeklynews.com/news/...meras-in-spain
Feb 16th 2018 | 7:43 pm
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Re: Exact speeds that will trigger cameras
That is not strictly correct. 7kph is the allowed margin of error so the radar will trip at 8kph above the speed limit.
Above 100kph it is 7% but according to tables published by Trafico the trigger points above 100 are actually 109, 120 and 131. I dont understand how they arrive at the higher figures but that is what has been published in the past.
Margin of Error | N332 - Driving In Spain
Of course, to those figures should be added the normal speedo error that all cars have which is typically around 5% over the actual speed.
Above 100kph it is 7% but according to tables published by Trafico the trigger points above 100 are actually 109, 120 and 131. I dont understand how they arrive at the higher figures but that is what has been published in the past.
Margin of Error | N332 - Driving In Spain
Of course, to those figures should be added the normal speedo error that all cars have which is typically around 5% over the actual speed.
Last edited by Fred James; Feb 16th 2018 at 7:47 pm.
Feb 16th 2018 | 10:39 pm
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Re: Exact speeds that will trigger cameras
That is not strictly correct. 7kph is the allowed margin of error so the radar will trip at 8kph above the speed limit.
Above 100kph it is 7% but according to tables published by Trafico the trigger points above 100 are actually 109, 120 and 131. I dont understand how they arrive at the higher figures but that is what has been published in the past.
Margin of Error | N332 - Driving In Spain
Of course, to those figures should be added the normal speedo error that all cars have which is typically around 5% over the actual speed.
Above 100kph it is 7% but according to tables published by Trafico the trigger points above 100 are actually 109, 120 and 131. I dont understand how they arrive at the higher figures but that is what has been published in the past.
Margin of Error | N332 - Driving In Spain
Of course, to those figures should be added the normal speedo error that all cars have which is typically around 5% over the actual speed.
Feb 16th 2018 | 11:30 pm
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Re: Exact speeds that will trigger cameras
But speed is a continuous variable, so if the trigger is "over 7kph over", shouldn't that be 7.1kph or 7.01 kph, .... which can be continued ad infinitum, and therefore be effectively tripping at (the slightest amount over) 7kph.
Last edited by Pulaski; Feb 16th 2018 at 11:32 pm.
Feb 17th 2018 | 4:18 am
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Re: Exact speeds that will trigger cameras
They don’t do fractional speeds so that is why they just round up to the nearest whole number.
It is worth noting that radar traps on the motorways are very rare. They do have fixed radars but everyone knows exactly where they are as they are obliged to publish the exact locations.
The majority of accidents are on roads with a 90 or 100 limit or in in urban areas in the 50 limits and that is where the mobile radars tend to be. They even have to publish details of the exact stretches of road where you may expect to find a radar and they have to put up a roadside notice when they deploy one. However, the stretch of road might be 50 km long and the signs are very small!
There are a few tunnels which have an average speed camera. I don’t think these have any margin of error. Also the helicopters are the same as the equipment is very accurate, they are thankfully fairly rare. The latest breed of Trafico motorcycles are all also equipped with static radar equipment.
It is worth noting that radar traps on the motorways are very rare. They do have fixed radars but everyone knows exactly where they are as they are obliged to publish the exact locations.
The majority of accidents are on roads with a 90 or 100 limit or in in urban areas in the 50 limits and that is where the mobile radars tend to be. They even have to publish details of the exact stretches of road where you may expect to find a radar and they have to put up a roadside notice when they deploy one. However, the stretch of road might be 50 km long and the signs are very small!
There are a few tunnels which have an average speed camera. I don’t think these have any margin of error. Also the helicopters are the same as the equipment is very accurate, they are thankfully fairly rare. The latest breed of Trafico motorcycles are all also equipped with static radar equipment.
Last edited by Fred James; Feb 17th 2018 at 4:21 am.
Feb 17th 2018 | 5:12 am
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Re: Exact speeds that will trigger cameras
They don’t do fractional speeds so that is why they just round up to the nearest whole number.
It is worth noting that radar traps on the motorways are very rare. They do have fixed radars but everyone knows exactly where they are as they are obliged to publish the exact locations.
The majority of accidents are on roads with a 90 or 100 limit or in in urban areas in the 50 limits and that is where the mobile radars tend to be. They even have to publish details of the exact stretches of road where you may expect to find a radar and they have to put up a roadside notice when they deploy one. However, the stretch of road might be 50 km long and the signs are very small!
There are a few tunnels which have an average speed camera. I don’t think these have any margin of error. Also the helicopters are the same as the equipment is very accurate, they are thankfully fairly rare. The latest breed of Trafico motorcycles are all also equipped with static radar equipment.
It is worth noting that radar traps on the motorways are very rare. They do have fixed radars but everyone knows exactly where they are as they are obliged to publish the exact locations.
The majority of accidents are on roads with a 90 or 100 limit or in in urban areas in the 50 limits and that is where the mobile radars tend to be. They even have to publish details of the exact stretches of road where you may expect to find a radar and they have to put up a roadside notice when they deploy one. However, the stretch of road might be 50 km long and the signs are very small!
There are a few tunnels which have an average speed camera. I don’t think these have any margin of error. Also the helicopters are the same as the equipment is very accurate, they are thankfully fairly rare. The latest breed of Trafico motorcycles are all also equipped with static radar equipment.
Feb 17th 2018 | 5:29 am
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Re: Exact speeds that will trigger cameras
Feb 17th 2018 | 8:19 pm
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Re: Exact speeds that will trigger cameras
Simple solution
Don't speed
Don't speed
Feb 17th 2018 | 10:27 pm
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Re: Exact speeds that will trigger cameras
Also for those of a more global persuasion, and to the glee of brexiteers everywhere, the EU has formulated a cunning plan for parking/speeding fines to follow you home, plus some vast admin fee one imagines, so if you are playing the innocent but fast tourist abroad trick, it will no longer profit you.
They originally wanted to harmonise all numberplates to ease this process but have decided to just share all driver/vehicle info instead so this may also impact on other vehicle related criminality as insurance info etc is shared.
They originally wanted to harmonise all numberplates to ease this process but have decided to just share all driver/vehicle info instead so this may also impact on other vehicle related criminality as insurance info etc is shared.
