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Re: EUC President Candidate
Why they have not incorporated to the topics of the CALL in this AGM:
- what does go to happen and/or going to change with the situation of MartinsaFadesa's liquidation? - what can suppose for the EUC the claim realized by a group of owners against the EUC? b.regards Alberto |
Re: EUC President Candidate
There are diverse things on that to comment on the accounts of the EUC.
1 º.-Every year they have presented the accounts in a different way. I am preparing a pfile trying to present the items of a comparative form. 2 º.-never present a comparison of the Budget foreseen for the year, with the results, for what there is no clear way of knowing his degree of fulfillment. 3 º.-Every year appear different items, and some of them so little clear for his text and amount as " UNEXPECTED EXPENSES ", in the budget of 2015, with an amount of 19.186,71 Euros. 4 º.-Continue being unknown the quantity of backward quotas is recovered year by year. 5 º.-Is unknown that relation has the payment to the " TAX MANAGEMENT SERVICES " as the work of recovering backward quotas and the amount that is paid to them for for it. In really is a work made by the Servicio de Gestion Tributaria. 6 º.-From 2010, are in the budget and logically we have paid in our quotas for IINFORMATICA, the quantity of 22.832,42 Euros. (THEY ARE EQUIVALENT TO 57 COMPUTERS) 7 º.-From 2010, are in the budget and logically we have paid in our quotas for FURNITURE, the quantity of 34.686,19 Euros. (THEY ARE EQUIVALENT TO 50 SOFAS) 8 º.-In 2013, foresaw 6.000 Euros for PUBLICITY, and for this year 4.000 Euros are presupuestados. Publicity why and with that end? 9 º.-If we notice reading the Minutes of every year, not different the text, and always they foresee the same thing, "lightning ó sparks falling" (Spanish expression), no variation, no surprise, except TO RAISE, THIS YEAR 2 % IN ALMOST ALL THE CONCEPTS. 10 º.-How is possible that in last three years, the wastebaskets, the playparks, the banks in sidewalks and parks, the lampposts, the electrical lighting, the sidewalks, the material of drain, the water fountain, and the trees and plants, have to repair, break or should be replaced in the same amount? 11º.- what for me is out of any economic and procedural logic, which I will explain in the next one. b.regards Alberto |
Re: EUC President Candidate
One of the most surprising things of the economic accounts and budget of the EUC, is that against his own regulations that they say:
Article 39 º.-Budget. 1. In the last quarter of every exercise, the Governing Advice will formulate the provisional budgets for the economic following exercise, choosing for it the most suitable formulae of presentation in every moment. The budget will be able to indicate ordinary and different concepts of extraordinary character or of multiannual projection, determining the origin of the funds and the applications of same conducive to the balance of both, being applied by general character from the first day of every year. That is to say, clarifying " determining the origin of the funds and the applications conducive to the balance of both ". By it there is not understood a budget, in which INCOME AND EXPENSES are not equivalent. Article 39 º.-Budget 2. The General Assembly in extraordinary meetings will be able to approve equally special and complementary budgets, with character of necessary and, consequently, they will be added to the annual budget both to be liquidated by the closing of the exercise to which they are applied. That is to say, in an extraordinary Meeting, depending on since the Income and Expenses go, to summon it to approve one special and complementary budget, which covers the expenses that to a certain moment, could not preveer his payment, for lack of income of quotas. For it, it is not possible to understand that EUC presents a budget, in which the income is superior to the expenses, TO COVER the quotas of those who are not going to pay and to continue without paying, and the due thing will not recover. As it is said in Spain, " wide is Castile " = “ancha es Castillaâ€, that is to say, that while budgets not subject to the reality continue being approved, and the expenses are not controlled adequately, we will continue paying those who pay, not only it of one but it of not payers. There is kept year after year, a budget on the basis of 950.000 Euros, creating a so called item " DOUBTFUL FEES DURING THE EXERCISE ", that without any established criterion, presupposes that quantity is not going to be received, that simply consists of the fact that is the difference between the INCOME and the EXPENSES. It is devastating, that are included in the expenses of the year, a so called item " PAY DEBTS ", to pay these, when those that already have paid his quotas anually, they have contributed this quantity. That is to say, we must continue paying what already we pay in our previous quotas. To 31.12.2014, the quotas of the "normal" debtors are 1.389.000,21 Euros and the " quotas belong to the debtors " to doubtful collection " they are 1.710.755,72 Euros, that it means: the quotas os the debtors are FIVE YEARS OF EXPENSES. Till when? I have some files in pdf with the comparative one of expenses, income, debit from 2010. If someone wants to receive, to contact with [email protected] Good night. Alberto |
Re: EUC President Candidate
Originally Posted by ALVALVA
(Post 11600655)
One of the most surprising things of the economic accounts and budget of the EUC, is that against his own regulations that they say:
Article 39 º.-Budget. 1. In the last quarter of every exercise, the Governing Advice will formulate the provisional budgets for the economic following exercise, choosing for it the most suitable formulae of presentation in every moment. The budget will be able to indicate ordinary and different concepts of extraordinary character or of multiannual projection, determining the origin of the funds and the applications of same conducive to the balance of both, being applied by general character from the first day of every year. That is to say, clarifying " determining the origin of the funds and the applications conducive to the balance of both ". By it there is not understood a budget, in which INCOME AND EXPENSES are not equivalent. Article 39 º.-Budget 2. The General Assembly in extraordinary meetings will be able to approve equally special and complementary budgets, with character of necessary and, consequently, they will be added to the annual budget both to be liquidated by the closing of the exercise to which they are applied. That is to say, in an extraordinary Meeting, depending on since the Income and Expenses go, to summon it to approve one special and complementary budget, which covers the expenses that to a certain moment, could not preveer his payment, for lack of income of quotas. For it, it is not possible to understand that EUC presents a budget, in which the income is superior to the expenses, TO COVER the quotas of those who are not going to pay and to continue without paying, and the due thing will not recover. As it is said in Spain, " wide is Castile " = “ancha es Castillaâ€, that is to say, that while budgets not subject to the reality continue being approved, and the expenses are not controlled adequately, we will continue paying those who pay, not only it of one but it of not payers. There is kept year after year, a budget on the basis of 950.000 Euros, creating a so called item " DOUBTFUL FEES DURING THE EXERCISE ", that without any established criterion, presupposes that quantity is not going to be received, that simply consists of the fact that is the difference between the INCOME and the EXPENSES. It is devastating, that are included in the expenses of the year, a so called item " PAY DEBTS ", to pay these, when those that already have paid his quotas anually, they have contributed this quantity. That is to say, we must continue paying what already we pay in our previous quotas. To 31.12.2014, the quotas of the "normal" debtors are 1.389.000,21 Euros and the " quotas belong to the debtors " to doubtful collection " they are 1.710.755,72 Euros, that it means: the quotas os the debtors are FIVE YEARS OF EXPENSES. Till when? I have some files in pdf with the comparative one of expenses, income, debit from 2010. If someone wants to receive, to contact with [email protected] Good night. Alberto |
Re: EUC President Candidate
Originally Posted by Philwren
(Post 11596492)
Hi All,
After much consideration I have decided to stand for the position of EUC President. It's about time an owner/resident was on the board of EUC instead of being dictated too by fadesa. We need a voice here and we need a say in how our money is being spent. We need to know where the bond from fadesa has gone and where this will be spent. I will be sending a letter to all community Presidents this weekend asking for support and all plot owners should already have their proxy form. Here is the letter and proxy to Presidents incase you may miss my email. Dear Presidents and owners of Costa Esuri. For those that do not know me, May Iintroduce myself to you, My name is Philip Wren and I am the Intercommunity President of Lomas De Esuri, I have held this position for the past 4 years. I have lived in Lomas for the past 7 years and have owned a house on Costa Esuri since 2006. As you are aware the EUC AGM has been called for March the 26th 2015 and on the agenda is the election of the board of committee. In the past the president and most of the board has been made up of people that do not live on Costa Esuri neither do they own properties or have a vested interest here. This does not give a good representation of the owners and the people who pay into the EUC system. I feel it's time for an owner/resident to take a place on this board and I intend to stand as President for the EUC in the upcoming Agm. It is important that we have a say in the way the euc is run and that everything is completely transparent so we know we are getting value for money. I would be grateful if you, as presidents and owners support me in this and vote at the AGM. If you are unable to attend I would appreciate your support via proxy, you can do this via email as follows. You need to print the form and fill in your name and details and sign the form then scan it and return via email to me or your administrator along with the certification provided by your administrator to prove you are the president of your community. "EUC President Not being able to attend the EUC AGM to be held on the 26 March, I .....(your name).....hereby delegate all the rights to which I am entitled as President of ......(the name of the community you are president of)..............in favor of ......(my name)........holder of NIE/DNI number ..... (My nie number, I will fill this in)........including the right to vote" Kind regards Philip Wren Intercommunity President Lomas De Esuri. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad |
Re: EUC President Candidate
Hello.
I have had a amistake, and I thought taht the AGM would be in Friday. Then tomorrow I travel to Ayamonte, and we can speak the Thursday morning. I think that perhaps is the worst moment to have a seat at the EUC board. Reason? I think that all will be worst, withouth Martinsa Fadesa, and with 3 millions euros debt, I think that is impossible to manage the EUC. Perhaps is the moment in where the Cityhall try to launch the EUC in other hands. The question that the actual board and the actual President must explain, is HOW manage the EUC, and what is the real legal situation , the responsability of Martinsa Fadesa, the bank guarantee that Fadesa gave to the Cityhall, etc. The thursday we can speack about it. best regards I want to send you a pdf files, but I dont know how. |
Re: EUC President Candidate
Originally Posted by Philwren
(Post 11601388)
Alberto, maybe you would like to join the board of the EUC ?
Are you prepared to stand for election to the board an ensure that an audit of the current and past accounts is carried out? If you are I am sure you will receive strong support from fellow Esuri owners. |
Re: EUC President Candidate
Originally Posted by ALVALVA
(Post 11601528)
Hello.
I have had a amistake, and I thought taht the AGM would be in Friday. Then tomorrow I travel to Ayamonte, and we can speak the Thursday morning. I think that perhaps is the worst moment to have a seat at the EUC board. Reason? I think that all will be worst, withouth Martinsa Fadesa, and with 3 millions euros debt, I think that is impossible to manage the EUC. Perhaps is the moment in where the Cityhall try to launch the EUC in other hands. The question that the actual board and the actual President must explain, is HOW manage the EUC, and what is the real legal situation , the responsability of Martinsa Fadesa, the bank guarantee that Fadesa gave to the Cityhall, etc. The thursday we can speack about it. best regards R I want to send you a pdf files, but I dont know how. I would be very pleased to receive a copy of your files if you would be so kind as to copy them to me. |
Re: EUC President Candidate
Phil:
I need to send tp you an email that Mr. Dawson sent to me for you. Please send to me at [email protected] an email tomorrow morning and so I will sent to you the ones. Its is reference to the answer that EUV gave to validity of the proxis. good night. Alberto |
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