EUC Petition
Jun 9th 2018, 10:25 pm
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EUC Petition
CERA has posted Facebook link to a Spanish petition which appears to be calling for the EUC to be disbanded on the basis that CE is being double taxed (IBI & EUC).
Does anyone know more about this? It appears to have over 500 signatories.
Does anyone know more about this? It appears to have over 500 signatories.
Jun 9th 2018, 11:11 pm
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Re: EUC Petition
It first appeared as an article in a Huelva newspaper reporting that a no of Spanish residents of CE had got up a petition. I think reference was also made to the failed legal action of some years back. The post was originally by Catherine R but at the time did not give the numbers. Of course what the Ayuntamiento are doing is perfectly legal within the law of horizontal property. It is more than a double whammy though since Cadastral values for old Ayamonte have not been revised for many years and CE ARE UPDATED VALUES AT THE HEIGHT OF THE BOOM OF 8 YEARS AGO. It is estimated that like for like properties CE/Ayamonte pay 2x Ayamonte IBI. This plus EUC really helps the town hall with their €44m debt. If the sale of the GC is not sorted soon I can see that when it happens the debt to the EUC will be folded into the IBI debt and CE will see no benefit.
Jun 10th 2018, 8:10 am
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Re: EUC Petition
It first appeared as an article in a Huelva newspaper reporting that a no of Spanish residents of CE had got up a petition. I think reference was also made to the failed legal action of some years back. The post was originally by Catherine R but at the time did not give the numbers. Of course what the Ayuntamiento are doing is perfectly legal within the law of horizontal property. It is more than a double whammy though since Cadastral values for old Ayamonte have not been revised for many years and CE ARE UPDATED VALUES AT THE HEIGHT OF THE BOOM OF 8 YEARS AGO. It is estimated that like for like properties CE/Ayamonte pay 2x Ayamonte IBI. This plus EUC really helps the town hall with their €44m debt. If the sale of the GC is not sorted soon I can see that when it happens the debt to the EUC will be folded into the IBI debt and CE will see no benefit.
The 'failed legal action' was that the one widely reported on the forum a few years back? MikeJ and I were at the introductory meeting in Ayamonte from the law firm & decided not to join the action. We've not heard much since, except a couple of years ago that there were delays. Now its way past any proposed timescales.
The GC saga is also weird. On one hand we hear that its sold and the backdated taxes are in a secure account - yet many are asking why the mayor isn't taking the photo-op. After all the sale of the hotel = jobs + regeneration is surely good news.
Now in your (scary) post there is a possibility that we wont see any of the money!
Where is that book by Machiavelli!!
Jon
Jun 10th 2018, 7:59 pm
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Re: EUC Petition
I shall fill you in on Thursday on a LLL it is long and complex but you “won’t believe it”!
Jun 11th 2018, 2:19 am
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Re: EUC Petition
Less enamoured about discovering further 'unbelievable' CE stuff - never seems to end sadly. But I know you understand this well.
For sure we have lots of fun stuff to catch up on as well
Jon
Jun 11th 2018, 4:42 am
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Re: EUC Petition
It’s all a joke, a bad joke and we Esurians are the butt of it, but hey I always quote you “ one house two countries, magnificent beaches, amazing variety of food and the best company you can keep”. Life is good to us oldies!
Jun 13th 2018, 5:33 pm
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Re: EUC Petition
LLL=Long Lazy Lunch!
Jun 18th 2018, 5:42 pm
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Re: EUC Petition
The trouble it's all about the devil you know. At least the EUC , for all its faults, is continuing to maintain the urbanisation and therefore the value of our properties. If the EUC is disbanded and it's assets transferred to the Town Hall then, as John says, it will get swallowed into the municipal debt. There would be no ringfenced funds for Costa Esuri and CE will be treated as the rest of Ayamonte. Without being too pejorative, that is not a good advertisement. Ayamonte doesn't seem to benefit from all the taxes its citizens pay. To be honest it is a bit shabby. What chance will CE have in the Town Hall's priorities? OK so the Town Hall has statutory duties but it is the optional ones (like irrigation, gardening etc) which make all the difference to the quality of life here - and the value of all our properties. For a slight reduction in taxation we are likely to end up in a far worse situation than we are now.
Jun 18th 2018, 6:02 pm
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Re: EUC Petition
The trouble it's all about the devil you know. At least the EUC , for all its faults, is continuing to maintain the urbanisation and therefore the value of our properties. If the EUC is disbanded and it's assets transferred to the Town Hall then, as John says, it will get swallowed into the municipal debt. There would be no ringfenced funds for Costa Esuri and CE will be treated as the rest of Ayamonte. Without being too pejorative, that is not a good advertisement. Ayamonte doesn't seem to benefit from all the taxes its citizens pay. To be honest it is a bit shabby. What chance will CE have in the Town Hall's priorities? OK so the Town Hall has statutory duties but it is the optional ones (like irrigation, gardening etc) which make all the difference to the quality of life here - and the value of all our properties. For a slight reduction in taxation we are likely to end up in a far worse situation than we are now.
Sep 19th 2018, 7:42 pm
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Re: EUC Petition
MEETING WITH OWNERS AND NEIGHBOURS REGARDING
THE EUC OF COSTA ESURI
The CERA Committee will hold a meeting with owners and neighbours of Costa Esuri next Saturday, 22 September at 18:30h on the Five-a-Side football pitch.
Given the subject of the meeting and that it may be decisive for the future of Costa Esuri, we think it should be attended.
THE EUC OF COSTA ESURI
The CERA Committee will hold a meeting with owners and neighbours of Costa Esuri next Saturday, 22 September at 18:30h on the Five-a-Side football pitch.
Given the subject of the meeting and that it may be decisive for the future of Costa Esuri, we think it should be attended.
Oct 2nd 2018, 4:39 pm
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Re: EUC Petition
Hi, sorry to hijack the thread but may I ask a question of Esuri residents? Knowing what you know now, would you still buy in Costa Esuri?
Oct 2nd 2018, 4:47 pm
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