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tuhler Mar 21st 2017 11:14 pm

Re: EU passport
 

Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 12209930)
1. You should expect a reciprocal deal will be struck within the next three to four months. Spain has already indicated it is very keen to make such an arrangement which is no surprise with all those British expats contributing to the Spanish economy.

2. As others have mentioned there's no such thing as an 'EU passport' rather there are passports from the 28 EU member states; soon to be 27. To acquire another EU member state passport ahead of Brexit you'll need to fulfil the citizenship requirements of one of the other 27 nations. If you have Irish-born parent or grandparent then that would be the simplest way to go. Otherwise you should sit tight in Spain until you are eligible for Spanish citizenship.

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Liana12433 Mar 21st 2017 11:25 pm

Re: EU passport
 
1. You should expect a reciprocal deal will be struck within the next three to four months. Spain has already indicated it is very keen to make such an arrangement which is no surprise with all those British expats contributing to the Spanish economy.

2. As others have mentioned there's no such thing as an 'EU passport' rather there are passports from the 28 EU member states; soon to be 27. To acquire another EU member state passport ahead of Brexit you'll need to fulfil the citizenship requirements of one of the other 27 nations. If you have Irish-born parent or grandparent then that would be the simplest way to go. Otherwise you should sit tight in Spain until you are eligible for Spanish citizenship.

Yes this what I have seen and heard from the politicians here. At the end of the day TM has stated no arangement on EU citizens in the UK until she has an agreement in place for Brits in the EU. Sounds sensible and I believe this will be a major topic to be discussed and agreed. Yes the expats here sure put a lot of money into the local economies. In my little town in the North only me and a few teachers, however I believe common sense will prevail and all will be well, but you never konw with that buffoon Junker.

Assanah Mar 21st 2017 11:33 pm

Re: EU passport
 

Originally Posted by Liana12433 (Post 12210235)

Yes this what I have seen and heard from the politicians here. At the end of the day TM has stated no arangement on EU citizens in the UK until she has an agreement in place for Brits in the EU. Sounds sensible and I believe this will be a major topic to be discussed and agreed. Yes the expats here sure put a lot of money into the local economies. In my little town in the North only me and a few teachers, however I believe common sense will prevail and all will be well, but you never konw with that buffoon Junker.

Common sense? As in the British referendum about the EU membership?Then good luck to you.

BTW, European expats put at lot of money into the UK economy as well. So if the British want them to leave, what is left of common sense?

Liana12433 Mar 22nd 2017 12:47 am

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I hope so as well, but as I understand that is not the case, because as you say any expat working contributes to the economy, as a tax payer and skill use. Goodness me we need it .

Tadd1966 Mar 22nd 2017 12:52 am

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Why do the brits think that the expat community in Spain is such a high revenue for the Spanish govt and the economy?


Ask yourself where do they spend the money and how much do they actually have and for how long?


For the pensioners yes most get covered by S1 form and the NHS pays a fee but how much does it actually cost the Spanish NHS? Does the fee cover ALL costs?


Many pensioners don’t bother with S1 and rely on EHIC and flying back to the UK for more urgent treatment and / or planned ops.


How many expats (young and old) are fully compliant and declare their income to the Spanish tax man


Then you have they younger generation who work under the radarpay nothing and again spend their money in little Britain bubbles / enclaves that they live in.


I would suggest Spain would be better off without these and may even use brexit to clamp down on this behaviour by many expats


If the expats dried up post brexit the biggest sufferers would be the Brit bars and the Brit restaurants and the illegal builders, taxidrivers, key holders, cleaners, bar staff etc. The legal ones are so few and far between they are a mere drop in the ocean


Yes tourism is a big driver for the economy and will survive longer term and property prices may get hit again but as they are going nowhere so no big deal on the economy

mikelincs Mar 22nd 2017 2:26 am

Re: EU passport
 

Originally Posted by Tadd1966 (Post 12210309)
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How many expats (young and old) are fully compliant and declare their income to the Spanish tax man


Tadd, please use the default font in posts, changing it makes it very difficult when quoting only part of the comment.


How many Spanish people, young and old are fully compliant and declare their income to the Spanish tax man is a much more germane question.

lgm1963 Mar 22nd 2017 4:47 am

Re: EU passport
 

Originally Posted by Assanah (Post 12210243)
Common sense? As in the British referendum about the EU membership?Then good luck to you.

BTW, European expats put at lot of money into the UK economy as well. So if the British want them to leave, what is left of common sense?

Apart from scaremongers, nobody has ever suggested asking anybody to leave anywhere.

As for common sense, democracy trumps the so called common sense of anyone disagreeing with democracy.

The Common Market was common sense.....the EU is a basket case.

Liana12433 Mar 22nd 2017 5:11 am

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I am fully compliant with the tax as my company pays all my taxes and I have no time or energy to work extra in a bar. Please do not tar us all with the same brush. I am quite sure there are folks out there working cash in hand. This happens everywhere even in the UK, often scroungers on benefits who are not entitled.
I have never dodged any tax in my working life.
Yes not paying tax in Spain was a national vocation and the same with Greece. It is not just some Brits as you may like to think.

BritInParis Mar 22nd 2017 10:48 am

Re: EU passport
 

Originally Posted by Assanah (Post 12210243)
Common sense? As in the British referendum about the EU membership?Then good luck to you.

BTW, European expats put at lot of money into the UK economy as well. So if the British want them to leave, what is left of common sense?

I appreciate a lot of people are still sore that the referendum didn't go their way but you won't find a single politician on either side of the Channel stating that any EU citizens resident in the UK or vice versa prior to the vote will be required to leave. Both HMG and the EU have openly stated that a reciprocal arrangement is the first priority once formal negotiations start in the summer.

LouisB Mar 22nd 2017 1:03 pm

Re: EU passport
 

Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 12209616)
So, still another 8 years to go for the OP, and by that time Brexit should have happened.

Maybe...

Tadd1966 Mar 22nd 2017 10:32 pm

Re: EU passport
 

Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 12210389)
Tadd, please use the default font in posts, changing it makes it very difficult when quoting only part of the comment.


How many Spanish people, young and old are fully compliant and declare their income to the Spanish tax man is a much more germane question.

Very true but 2 wrongs don't make a right.


Tax avoidance is a big issue in most countries but the expats are an easier target


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