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Fredbargate Aug 8th 2012 8:26 pm

EU fishing
 
Under the ban, Spain and Portugal continue to cut off fins from sharks at sea, and land fins and bodies separately according to an agreed weight ratio which allows fishermen to land far more fins than carcasses,

http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=25662

rugbymatt Aug 8th 2012 8:28 pm

Re: EU fishing
 

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 10218245)
Under the ban, Spain and Portugal continue to cut off fins from sharks at sea, and land fins and bodies separately according to an agreed weight ratio which allows fishermen to land far more fins than carcasses,

http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=25662

I reported this on the other thread.

Fredbargate Aug 8th 2012 8:35 pm

Re: EU fishing
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 10218246)
I reported this on the other thread.

Sorry Matt I missed it

rugbymatt Aug 8th 2012 8:50 pm

Re: EU fishing
 

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 10218257)
Sorry Matt I missed it

I wasn't being arsey, just sort of backing you up really.

Dick Dasterdly Aug 9th 2012 8:03 am

Re: EU fishing
 
Absolutely disgusting practice, though I'm sure Relampago or Cman will be along shortly to justify it.

stuboy Aug 9th 2012 1:29 pm

Re: EU fishing
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10219192)
Absolutely disgusting practice, though I'm sure Relampago or Cman will be along shortly to justify it.

I wouldn't hold your breath, it's unjustifiable and innately cruel.

EllisG Aug 9th 2012 11:01 pm

Re: EU fishing
 
clueless idiots when it comes to their fishing practices...no wonder I was dodging through so many jellyfish on my kayak this morning perhaps they should think about leaving one or two of their predators behind to eat the things.

Relampago Aug 10th 2012 10:56 am

Re: EU fishing
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10219192)
Absolutely disgusting practice, though I'm sure Relampago or Cman will be along shortly to justify it.

I have never justified the overfishing (in this case, of sharks, although the Spanish fleet captures the whole animal, does not remove the fins and later throw the body to sea, something that do in Asia) but I will not allow some say that Spain is the devouring of the oceans of the world. There are even countries like China that fishes as 11 or 13 the spanish quotas, even UK, fishing less than Spain, maintains a near distance

Therefore, flatly not to the overfishing, but also flatly not to the defamation in this case to my country. No way

Fredbargate Aug 10th 2012 6:02 pm

Re: EU fishing
 

Originally Posted by Relampago (Post 10221009)
I have never justified the overfishing but I will not allow some say that Spain is the devouring of the oceans of the world.

Personally I am not a fan of Greenpeace but Relampago I suggest you read the following article.

http://www.greenpeace.org/eu-unit/Gl...P-03-05-10.pdf

agoreira Aug 10th 2012 10:48 pm

Re: EU fishing
 

Originally Posted by Relampago (Post 10221009)

Therefore, flatly not to the overfishing, but also flatly not to the defamation in this case to my country. No way

You're in denial, Lampy. You won't read about it in the Spanish press, they're hardly going to condemn their own fishermen, but everyone else is in no doubt who the bad boys are.

steviedeluxe Aug 10th 2012 11:35 pm

Re: EU fishing
 

Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 10221585)
You're in denial, Lampy. You won't read about it in the Spanish press, they're hardly going to condemn their own fishermen, but everyone else is in no doubt who the bad boys are.

Good old reliable "Spain BAD UK Good" tripe from Aggy there. No doubt the usual suspects will pipe in to back him up as well. :thumbdown:
Yet as Rambling Rose has already pointed out, things aren't that simple

I just felt like pointing out that the spanish are not always in the wrong and the issue is far more complicated than most people (who just enjoy looking for someone to blame) would like to believe. I could lots of stories of black fish and other illegal practices carried out by UK fishermen - this article is just one example:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...tland-17153085


Seventeen Scottish skippers and a processing firm have received fines totalling almost £1m for their part in the UK's biggest fraud involving illegal catches of fish.

The men had admitted they were able to sell vast quantities of mackerel and herring by evading EU quotas.
Still, we've been told on here that Spain are the bad boys, and the Brits always follow the rules, so obviously that report is just made up by the Spanish press.... :thumbdown:

Dick Dasterdly Aug 10th 2012 11:48 pm

Re: EU fishing
 

Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 10221637)
Good old reliable "Spain BAD UK Good" tripe from Aggy there. No doubt the usual suspects will pipe in to back him up as well. :thumbdown:
Yet as Rambling Rose has already pointed out, things aren't that simple


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...tland-17153085



Still, we've been told on here that Spain are the bad boys, and the Brits always follow the rules, so obviously that report is just made up by the Spanish press.... :thumbdown:

The big difference being of course, as clearly demonstrated in this case, that the UK authorities make every possible effort to catch and severely punish illegal activities.

Fredbargate Aug 11th 2012 12:13 am

Re: EU fishing
 

Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 10221637)
Still, we've been told on here that Spain are the bad boys, and the Brits always follow the rules, so obviously that report is just made up by the Spanish press.... :thumbdown:

OK Stevie whats your take on this one?

http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleases...guiLanguage=en

Domino Aug 11th 2012 1:56 am

Re: EU fishing
 

Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 10221637)
Good old reliable "Spain BAD UK Good" tripe from Aggy there. No doubt the usual suspects will pipe in to back him up as well. :thumbdown:
Yet as Rambling Rose has already pointed out, things aren't that simple


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...tland-17153085



Still, we've been told on here that Spain are the bad boys, and the Brits always follow the rules, so obviously that report is just made up by the Spanish press.... :thumbdown:

Nah Stevie, can't be made up by the Spanish press - the English language is too good.
;)

Relampago Aug 11th 2012 4:37 am

Re: EU fishing
 
The spanish fishing fleet is not God, can not be everywhere at once. In addition, there are countries who fish more than Spain, as Japan. The Japanese fishing more than Spain, and also they capture cetaceans, which Spain does not for decades. Or the Chinese, they fished all, even eat seahorses. Then I don't understand this mania against Spain...

I am opposed to overfishing, I think the fish farms should replace the fishing boats, and we should eat fish such as carp, which feed on vegetable matter. Would be ideal. Because also can raise tuna in fish farms, but like other species, they are carnivores, and it would be like feeding pigs with chickens

If Spain receives subsidies for fishing, something there must be. It should be profitable, and it is not gratuitous


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