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Hi. I am desperate to retire to Spain. Unfortunately there is a small problem and this is retirement is some 19 years away. Allowing for a sensible rate of inflation my yearly pensionable income will be £8500 pre-tax. Can anyone tell me if this will cover the basics/necessities please.
Thanks very much,
Mark

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Hi
I'm sorry but can you clarify something? - are you saying in 19yrs your pension will be £8.5k, or are you saying it would the equivalent of £8.5k in todays money?

If you're saying it would be the equivalent, I would guess it would just cover the basics assuming you had no or very little rent to pay.

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Sorry I should have been more clear. I did mean the equivalent of £8500. Thankyou for your response,
Mark

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This must rate as the hardest to answer question ever posted, apart from Telefonica ones.
That amount is about the alleged average wage in Spain.
Are you talking one or two people, by the amount of pension, I am guessing one.
Do you need a car, what lifestyle do you want, etc, etc ?
At the moment, depending on area of Spain, this would be ok for two people to live including rent for an apartment.
Now in twenty years, who knows ?
I would imagine this amount would of been excellent twenty years ago and lifestyle would of been much better with that amount then.

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I don't want to be the bearer of bad news but I think you'll have to consider becoming an Estate Agent! :lol:

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how long is a piece of string?

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hola,
wages out here are very low compared to the uk. £8,500 is an ok figure and you will find it will go further here than in the uk.(as long as you dont buy too many british products pg tips marmite ect as these are very expensive out here. i have recently started a business and i am surviving on alot less that that, even with going out 5 nights a week to bars and eating out 3 times a week............do the move youll not regret it!!!

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In twenty years time ????

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My husbands Teachers Pension is around £7.5k and we (two adults) can live reasonably well on this except for expensive one-off items which have to come from savings. We do have a small amount of other income, but we try to save this for the aforementioned one-off expenses. Altogether from all sources, we probably have around £9.5 a year, but the Pension is what we live off.

We live in inland Andalucia, have no rent or mortgage, don't need private medical insurance, don't smoke, do not have Broadband or Sky TV and have one nine-year-old car. We go out 2-3 times a week for tostadas for breakfast and 1-2 times a week to a bar in the evening -these are Spanish-run village bars so much cheaper than the Brit bars on the coast. We do not go mad with our lives, but I don't think we go without either.

Hope this helps.

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Sounds like an ideal life, can't wait to do it myself, not long now.:thumbs_up:

You do not need a large amounts of money to lead a healthy, peaceful, stress free life.:)

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I always tell people to do a lot of research and take their time, but I think you are taking this advice too literally :D

Right now, its enough ..... in 19 years time ...... your guess is as good as mine :D

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Just to clear something up £8500 is the equivalent of todays salary i.e. allowed for inflation at 3% so it may actually be £25000 then (just a guess) We don't go out much but will have satellite tv and broadband. We also currently have a shopping budget of £200 a month for 2 + a child and will be running a small economical car once there.
Thankyou for all the responses so far,
Mark

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That 25,000 quid estimate has changed things a bit then. lol

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Come back in 18 years and we will have an answer! ;)

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It's really impossible to guess that far in advance, as people say, there are people living well on that sort of figure now, but without a crystal ball it's impossible to say what the position will be in 18 years. Given the figures and your requirements, then I suspect you would be OK but.......

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Do you guys just ignore all my posts?
I'd already established it would be the equivalent of £8.5k - (i.e. £8.5k today plus a rise for inflation)

I think it would be a fair assumption to make that if the £8.5k figure is OK today it's equivalent would be OK in a few years - why all the sit on the fence act, you're not normally so slow in expressing an opinion - give the guy a break.

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Well usually we draw on our opinions based on some kind of experience ourselves or known experience of others. Nobody can say what Spain will be in 19 years time. That might be more than enough, it might be nowhere near enough. Guessing more than 2 or 3 years in advance is just that, guessing.

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Fair point, but is guessing not all the guy would expect - I seriously doubt he would imagine anyone of to have recently travelled back from the future and provide him with a breakdown of daily living costs in 2026.

So based on your experiences in Spain now - would an income of £8.5k provide a good, bad or indifferent standard of living - and in what circumstances - Penthouse on the harbour in Marbella with couple of servants or a rundown apartment inland with a meagre existance??

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Well .......... yes usually :D

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Knew I could rely on you to go for the cheap laugh!!

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Well it's easily possible if there is no rent/mortgage to pay. It's possible on a tight budget if it's with rent or a mortgage. I don't imagine life would be so enjoyable though.

:)

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I dont like to leave you feeling dissapointed :)

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That's a break from the norm for you mate......

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He said he would have 8,500 in 19 years time or have I lost the ability to read now.?
Not the 25,000 it has now turned into.

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Just ignore his posts like we all do mate.

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Read posts 2 & 3

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Do we have to??

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Yeah, that makes it how I read it....

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?????
So how can you think he means £8500 (cash) in 19 years time?

Or am I missing something?

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Oh so many choices, so many options! Which to chose from, what to pick....its just to difficult!

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Maybe the red text influenced it a bit.

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again, read posts 2 & 3.
Where this obviously confused statement was clarified??

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Come on guys. Answer the question.

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No 8,500 wouldn`t be enough income to live on in Spain, central Africa probably but europw no chance in hell.:)

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Well there are plenty of people here doing it Lee! ;)

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I think they are debating as to whether the question can be answered.

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Yeah i`ve seen them in Malaga train station.

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Well I'm doing it quite comfortably thanks :)

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Your from the year 2026.

WOW.

I believe i was answering the question from page one.

how is the dosing in the streets goin, i spend more than 8,500 a year on food.:thumbsup:

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even enough spare cash for a Wednesday night bingo eh mate?