Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 10047944)

That's a big part of the problem -especially in the EU. They think it's "thier" money to do with as they please. It's not, but that's how it's spent.

On the other hand, and back to my original statement, if we did everything the public wants, then everyone would have free healthcare (of the world's highest quality), free education, a big beautiful house in an area with no crime, no wage inequality, perfectly environmentally-friendly energy (free of charge, of course), free transportation, free food, free child care, no taxes, but not work more than 4 hours per day, 20 hours per week, and would get paid €20K per month for it, and retire at age 45 with a pension double that of the highest wage you've ever made in your entire life.

And somebody would have to pay for all that.

Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10047959)

well having left the UK it definitely won't be me
too many hangers on there, free pass for this, free pass for that, havent put a penny into the system but want a free pass for it all, "I know my rights".

but at least those making the decisions are elected whilst no one in the EU hierarchy has been elected, just chosen by a few friends.

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Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 10048015)

Well, that's the system. And the general mindset. It's the "I'm entitled" generation, and explains a lot about why so many economies struggle to make ends meet (or not at all), whilst public prosperity continues in decline.

But it's not our problem is it? It's the government's problem, right? - the presumption being that the government is a separate entity, not there to serve us, but to control our lives for us - and for that, we get our wish - nothing is our responsibility anymore. "I'm entitled" - someone else's problem.

Ironically, even if you choose to take a look in the mirror, and assume some responsibility for your own life, there are plenty of regulatory barriers making it neccessary to depend more and more on bankrupt and politically motivated government for everything, further leading to the sentiment that it's "us" against "them", and it's "their" fault.

Wasn't me. "I'm entitled".

Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 10047944)

free healthcare (of the world's highest quality), free education, a big beautiful house in an area with no crime, no wage inequality, perfectly environmentally-friendly energy (free of charge, of course), free transportation, free food, free child care, no taxes, but not work more than 4 hours per day, 20 hours per week, and would get paid €20K per month for it, and retire at age 45 with a pension double that of the highest wage you've ever made in your entire life.