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steviedeluxe May 6th 2012 5:13 am

End of Merkozy...
 
Polls are showing a defeat for Sarkozy in the French elections.
I suspect there'll be big changes soon in the Euro-zone. Still, we'll see soon enough..:unsure:

Dick Dasterdly May 6th 2012 6:02 am

Re: End of Merkozy...
 

Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 10044669)
Polls are showing a defeat for Sarkozy in the French elections.
I suspect there'll be big changes soon in the Euro-zone. Still, we'll see soon enough..:unsure:

Ever widening cracks are appearing all over the place as the monstrosity the Euro fanatics created is turning around to bite them on the arse.

No great surprise really. I always forcast it would end in tears, once they became obsessed with building some sort of single non-democratic Euro superstate.

Meanwhile over in Moscow Putin is finding it hard to keep the lid on his own personal Dictatorship and begins to look more and more like Stalin every day.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...?newsfeed=true

steviedeluxe May 6th 2012 7:50 am

Re: End of Merkozy...
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10044714)
Ever widening cracks are appearing all over the place as the monstrosity the Euro fanatics created is turning around to bite them on the arse.

No great surprise really. I always forcast it would end in tears, once they became obsessed with building some sort of single non-democratic Euro superstate.

Meanwhile over in Moscow Putin is finding it hard to keep the lid on his own personal Dictatorship and begins to look more and more like Stalin every day.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...?newsfeed=true

I'm not sure - I think that if the French go for growth across Europe, then the Euro will survive. However, if the Germans put their foot down then we could see ruptures sooner than we realise. Interesting times, and very hard to call at this moment.

amideislas May 6th 2012 9:36 am

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Hee hee. Just watch what happens now. France will spend themselves into oblivion again, further over-regulate more than they already do, scare the bejeezus out of business, and unemployment will go through the roof, just like Spain.

Not that Sarkozy was some kind of great leader (rather a posterchild wimp-arse), but at least he didn't subscribe to the "tax and spend" ideology.

Pfft!

HBG May 6th 2012 5:32 pm

Re: End of Merkozy...
 
I've wondered at some surprising election results over the past few days, in France, Greece and London. None of them make much sense to me, until I read that we have the largest full moon for years.

Democracy is great, but we are all eventually controlled by outside forces, in this case an outsize full moon.

steviedeluxe May 6th 2012 5:41 pm

Re: End of Merkozy...
 

Originally Posted by HBG (Post 10045279)
I've wondered at some surprising election results over the past few days, in France, Greece and London. None of them make much sense to me, until I read that we have the largest full moon for years.

Democracy is great, but we are all eventually controlled by outside forces, in this case an outsize full moon.

Are they really surprising? Remember the rallying call for Clinton's election campaign "It's the economy, stupid!" Voters are rebelling at what they see as unnecessary austerity, putting their kids on a long career signing on, with no recovery in sight. No wonder they are voting for parties they think offer hope.

The only really surprising election result I can remember was John Major back in 1992.

HBG May 6th 2012 6:18 pm

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Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 10045287)
Are they really surprising? Remember the rallying call for Clinton's election campaign "It's the economy, stupid!" Voters are rebelling at what they see as unnecessary austerity, putting their kids on a long career signing on, with no recovery in sight. No wonder they are voting for parties they think offer hope.

The only really surprising election result I can remember was John Major back in 1992.

Major pitted a soap box against a laser light show at Sheffield by Kinnock and Prescott, and Murdoch joined in with 'would the last person leaving the country please switch the lights off'. I don't know about another full moon at that time.

Anyway, a thank you to the French voters, the pound is up to 1.24.

shirley and anthony hide May 6th 2012 11:22 pm

Re: End of Merkozy...
 

Originally Posted by HBG (Post 10045279)
I've wondered at some surprising election results over the past few days, in France, Greece and London. None of them make much sense to me, until I read that we have the largest full moon for years.

Democracy is great, but we are all eventually controlled by outside forces, in this case an outsize full moon.

No surprises on any of them. All as the opinion polls predicted beforehand.
The surprise would have been if they had gone the other way.

Lionda May 7th 2012 2:13 am

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It would be nice to have the choice of voting for someone who actually cares about the running of the country ... any country ... someone who actually listens to the people :rolleyes: instead of all these career men who's only aim is getting high up on the career ladder and making as much money as they can in the process ..... we can but dream :(

Domino May 7th 2012 7:56 pm

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Originally Posted by Lionda (Post 10046033)
It would be nice to have the choice of voting for someone who actually cares about the running of the country ... any country ... someone who actually listens to the people :rolleyes: instead of all these career men who's only aim is getting high up on the career ladder and making as much money as they can in the process ..... we can but dream :(

The last person to do that is recorded in the first 5 books of the New Testament.
Since then man's personal greed has only been eclipsed by his lack of respect for human life.

No one enters politics to sit at the back of the house and keep on pushing for the little people, they all see a career path - just that some move faster than others.

I had thought Cameron would bring a little bit of fresh air but on several occaisions have had to hold back from writing to him pointing out he is actually coming across as more accident prone than Brown...:eek:

amideislas May 7th 2012 8:10 pm

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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10047551)
The last person to do that is recorded in the first 5 books of the New Testament.
Since then man's personal greed has only been eclipsed by his lack of respect for human life.

No one enters politics to sit at the back of the house and keep on pushing for the little people, they all see a career path - just that some move faster than others.

I had thought Cameron would bring a little bit of fresh air but on several occaisions have had to hold back from writing to him pointing out he is actually coming across as more accident prone than Brown...:eek:

The problem is that if politicians did everything the public wants, we'd have been bankrupt and completely impoverished many moons ago.

Beaverstate May 7th 2012 8:17 pm

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Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 10047578)
The problem is that if politicians did everything the public wants, we'd have been bankrupt and completely impoverished many moons ago.

We are bankrupt:( We just don't know it yet.:ohmy:

Domino May 7th 2012 8:22 pm

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Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 10047578)
The problem is that if politicians did everything the public wants, we'd have been bankrupt and completely impoverished many moons ago.

that is what makes a good politician - doing things that the public think they want and need without actually giving them anything at all.

after all it is "only" Government Money they are using.
if it was my money I would get very angry about its misuse.

rugbymatt May 8th 2012 12:01 am

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Socialists coming into power in France, Neo Nazis gaining unprecedented power in Greece and Germany standing alone with Britain in pressing for Austerity. May you live in interesting times eh?

amideislas May 8th 2012 12:21 am

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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10047596)
that is what makes a good politician - doing things that the public think they want and need without actually giving them anything at all.

after all it is "only" Government Money they are using.
if it was my money I would get very angry about its misuse.

That's a big part of the problem -especially in the EU. They think it's "thier" money to do with as they please. It's not, but that's how it's spent.

On the other hand, and back to my original statement, if we did everything the public wants, then everyone would have free healthcare (of the world's highest quality), free education, a big beautiful house in an area with no crime, no wage inequality, perfectly environmentally-friendly energy (free of charge, of course), free transportation, free food, free child care, no taxes, but not work more than 4 hours per day, 20 hours per week, and would get paid €20K per month for it, and retire at age 45 with a pension double that of the highest wage you've ever made in your entire life.

And somebody would have to pay for all that.


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