emigrating with children
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emigrating with children
I am intending to relocate to Spain with my 2 children aged 12 and 13. Please could anyone give me any recommendations of areas within Costa Blanca, i have been considering Playa Flamenca, Gandia and Oliva . I'm looking for which would be most suitable for children i.e plenty of other English children, schools.
Thankyou for your time
Debs
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Re: emigrating with children
Originally Posted by Ryabecc
I am intending to relocate to Spain with my 2 children aged 12 and 13. Please could anyone give me any recommendations of areas within Costa Blanca, i have been considering Playa Flamenca, Gandia and Oliva . I'm looking for which would be most suitable for children i.e plenty of other English children, schools.
Thankyou for your time
Debs
Thankyou for your time
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Re: emigrating with children
Originally Posted by Unexpat
"Most suitable for children" would be to mix more with local Spanish kids, honestly.
But from a different point of view, at your children's ages, it will be harder for them to learn the language than if they were younger, so it might be better for them to go to an international school rather than a Spanish one.
again, the areas I mentioned have international schools.
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Re: emigrating with children
I think they are too late for Spanish school, they will struggle with the language and get left behind, could also be a bullying issue too.
There are quite a few international school - here in the Javea area there are two - sure it costs but they get their English qualifications and it is seamless.
Imagine this - in your childrens class right now a Russian kid was put in knowing no English and think how it would be for him.
Mark
There are quite a few international school - here in the Javea area there are two - sure it costs but they get their English qualifications and it is seamless.
Imagine this - in your childrens class right now a Russian kid was put in knowing no English and think how it would be for him.
Mark
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Re: emigrating with children
Originally Posted by GCM
I think they are too late for Spanish school, they will struggle with the language and get left behind, could also be a bullying issue too.
There are quite a few international school - here in the Javea area there are two - sure it costs but they get their English qualifications and it is seamless.
Imagine this - in your childrens class right now a Russian kid was put in knowing no English and think how it would be for him.
Mark
There are quite a few international school - here in the Javea area there are two - sure it costs but they get their English qualifications and it is seamless.
Imagine this - in your childrens class right now a Russian kid was put in knowing no English and think how it would be for him.
Mark
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Re: emigrating with children
You may well be right Woodsey but these kids are 12 and 13 + in the areas mentioned you have to learn two new languages - what we know as Spanish + most lessons and exams are in the local dialect which won't be any good outside of the Costa Blanca.
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Re: emigrating with children
Originally Posted by GCM
You may well be right Woodsey but these kids are 12 and 13 + in the areas mentioned you have to learn two new languages - what we know as Spanish + most lessons and exams are in the local dialect which won't be any good outside of the Costa Blanca.
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not most, but a lot of lessons are in Valenciano, (my 2 girls are at spanish school in Javea)
the big consideration is that the brain changes the way it deals with language at around age 10.........until then it can learn by 'absorbtion', after that it will learn only by 'studying'
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Re: emigrating with children
Originally Posted by lynnxa
not most, but a lot of lessons are in Valenciano, (my 2 girls are at spanish school in Javea)
the big consideration is that the brain changes the way it deals with language at around age 10.........until then it can learn by 'absorbtion', after that it will learn only by 'studying'
the big consideration is that the brain changes the way it deals with language at around age 10.........until then it can learn by 'absorbtion', after that it will learn only by 'studying'
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Re: emigrating with children
Originally Posted by Ryabecc
thanks to all who replied. Is there no point in learning my children any spanish if it is a local dialect that is used, and what is the difference???
it's not a dialect...........it's a whole seperate language!!!!
and yes, it's still worth them learning some spanish, after all, it's the national language! By the time my girls get to university age, they will have the choice of Spain, the UK, or if we return there, the US (we're british, loong story)
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Re: emigrating with children
Originally Posted by GCM
I think they are too late for Spanish school, they will struggle with the language and get left behind, could also be a bullying issue too.
There are quite a few international school - here in the Javea area there are two - sure it costs but they get their English qualifications and it is seamless.
Imagine this - in your childrens class right now a Russian kid was put in knowing no English and think how it would be for him.
Mark
There are quite a few international school - here in the Javea area there are two - sure it costs but they get their English qualifications and it is seamless.
Imagine this - in your childrens class right now a Russian kid was put in knowing no English and think how it would be for him.
Mark
I wouldn't put a hard and fast rule on 10, in any case. For some kids it will be 12/13 others 8/9. When you are forced to deal with the language, for a great deal of your time each day, it is inevitable that you will learn it irrespective of age. Studying helps put structure on what you "learn" and in any case is required in order to make sense of everything and put discipline into the end product, regardless. Finally, a recent study noted that it is the "structure" of the brain that matters as to whether you have an affinity for languages, or not. No way to change that at any age.
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Re: emigrating with children
Originally Posted by Unexpat
Quite a few Russians around that have picked up the language fine and most are weeeeell past the "age of absorbtion" quoted elsewhere.
I wouldn't put a hard and fast rule on 10, in any case. For some kids it will be 12/13 others 8/9. When you are forced to deal with the language, for a great deal of your time each day, it is inevitable that you will learn it irrespective of age. Studying helps put structure on what you "learn" and in any case is required in order to make sense of everything and put discipline into the end product, regardless. Finally, a recent study noted that it is the "structure" of the brain that matters as to whether you have an affinity for languages, or not. No way to change that at any age.
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I wouldn't put a hard and fast rule on 10, in any case. For some kids it will be 12/13 others 8/9. When you are forced to deal with the language, for a great deal of your time each day, it is inevitable that you will learn it irrespective of age. Studying helps put structure on what you "learn" and in any case is required in order to make sense of everything and put discipline into the end product, regardless. Finally, a recent study noted that it is the "structure" of the brain that matters as to whether you have an affinity for languages, or not. No way to change that at any age.
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I did say 'around 10' which is what lots of research shows.
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Re: emigrating with children
Originally Posted by Ryabecc
I am intending to relocate to Spain with my 2 children aged 12 and 13. Please could anyone give me any recommendations of areas within Costa Blanca, i have been considering Playa Flamenca, Gandia and Oliva . I'm looking for which would be most suitable for children i.e plenty of other English children, schools.
Thankyou for your time
Debs
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Debs
We are relocating to Oliva and looked into schools, life for kids etc....it seems great....only 30% english so not overcrowded my expats.....we want to embrace the Spanish culture so we are sending our kids to Spanish schools.
We've been there once, only for 3 days but loved it....renting over there at the end of this month.....
Our kids are 3 and 17 months so we've got a different scenario.....best thing is to download a Spanish course so your children have a headstart before moving over there....we've downloaded Rocket Spanish which is really good.
One thing I would say, when we were over there , we saw a group of British youngsters in a pub in the afternoon, drinking and smoking - not loutish but still far too young. So I asked the person you I was visiting re areas and property....(Parasol Networks), they explained that two families came over hen the kids were 14 and the kids found Spanish schooling to difficult, language plus the GCSE's (or equivalent)...so dropped out of school, no qualifications- didn't learn to speeak Spainsh fluently...shame ! Thats why I said about learning Spainsh ASAP.
Hope that helps.....
All the best to you and your family, it's a brilliant start for the children !!
Mich
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Re: emigrating with children
Originally Posted by Mrs eddie
One thing I would say, when we were over there , we saw a group of British youngsters in a pub in the afternoon, drinking and smoking - not loutish but still far too young. So I asked the person you I was visiting re areas and property....(Parasol Networks), they explained that two families came over hen the kids were 14 and the kids found Spanish schooling to difficult, language plus the GCSE's (or equivalent)...so dropped out of school, no qualifications- didn't learn to speeak Spainsh fluently...shame ! Thats why I said about learning Spainsh ASAP.
Originally Posted by bfg69bug
90% of the english teenagers i know in spain dont go to school.
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Re: emigrating with children
Originally Posted by bfg69bug
supporting my point >>>
Is it 90% of English teenagers that do not go to school ? And do you think this is because they didn't intergrate when they were very small...?
I know what you are saying but my kids are 3 and 17 months, so they will be more Spanish than English - if we decide to stay in Spain that is.......
Can I ask why you moved out to Spain ?
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Originally Posted by bfg69bug
supporting my point >>>