DWP Reveals 2 Key Bank Account Checks Starting 2025
#16
I google searched it and the coverage appears to be mainly regional press as against the mainstream press - however, the Independent ran an article back in September
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2618730.html
I am sure we would all support stopping benefit scams but I wonder if this will achieve what I assume is the main target of organised big-scale crime scams that are going on.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2618730.html
I am sure we would all support stopping benefit scams but I wonder if this will achieve what I assume is the main target of organised big-scale crime scams that are going on.

There is nothing wrong in preventing fraud of any amount IMO, but there must surely be some much bigger targets in the other 96.8%.
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A typical overpayment is someone with an income either not declaring it or not declaring an increase which is only revealed on a subsequent check. Because the confirmation eventually comes from the person, it doesn't get counted as Fraud.
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It makes you wonder what would actually happen to Expats living in Spain who do not declare a death and keep taking the pension. Would the DWP actually be able to get the money back?
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The £10b "lost" is Fraud and error. Error - contrary to what some may think - is not civil servant bungling although obviously some of it is. It also includes what some might consider to be Fraud but is just the official or diplomatic way stating the cause was the same failure to report something relevant but they don't want to say that "Mrs Jones is a fraudster" so it is classed as error but error on the part of the person claiming.
A typical overpayment is someone with an income either not declaring it or not declaring an increase which is only revealed on a subsequent check. Because the confirmation eventually comes from the person, it doesn't get counted as Fraud.
A typical overpayment is someone with an income either not declaring it or not declaring an increase which is only revealed on a subsequent check. Because the confirmation eventually comes from the person, it doesn't get counted as Fraud.
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Right, I understand that, perhaps because I have significant experience in identifying and reporting "errors", albeit not in the government, and so my question remains, saving £1.6 billion is all well and good, but what is being done to reduce the other £48.4 billion of losses? 

That quoted paragraph, for example, includes delays in different organisations, known to be underfunded.
So it would cost money to fund them better to avoid the delays that cost money

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No, anyone is free to criticise. This forum is full of it.
It's helpful to know something about the subject though, rather than just repeating uninformed stereotypes.
For over 30 years. That's a bit more than once.
But he still keeps himself informed and still knows people currently working there.
It's a strange idea that such an experience and current interest is invalid. Does this happen in other occupations? If you have, say, a former air traffic controller worker with experience of stopping planes crashing in mid-air, would you give more credence to a traffic warden when discussing air safety? I mean planes and cars are the same thing aren't they?
It's helpful to know something about the subject though, rather than just repeating uninformed stereotypes.
because he once worked there
- A VERY LONG TIME AGO!
It's a strange idea that such an experience and current interest is invalid. Does this happen in other occupations? If you have, say, a former air traffic controller worker with experience of stopping planes crashing in mid-air, would you give more credence to a traffic warden when discussing air safety? I mean planes and cars are the same thing aren't they?

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No, anyone is free to criticise. This forum is full of it.
It's helpful to know something about the subject though, rather than just repeating uninformed stereotypes.
For over 30 years. That's a bit more than once.
But he still keeps himself informed and still knows people currently working there.
It's a strange idea that such an experience and current interest is invalid. Does this happen in other occupations? If you have, say, a former air traffic controller worker with experience of stopping planes crashing in mid-air, would you give more credence to a traffic warden when discussing air safety? I mean planes and cars are the same thing aren't they?
It's helpful to know something about the subject though, rather than just repeating uninformed stereotypes.For over 30 years. That's a bit more than once.
But he still keeps himself informed and still knows people currently working there.
It's a strange idea that such an experience and current interest is invalid. Does this happen in other occupations? If you have, say, a former air traffic controller worker with experience of stopping planes crashing in mid-air, would you give more credence to a traffic warden when discussing air safety? I mean planes and cars are the same thing aren't they?

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No, anyone is free to criticise. This forum is full of it.
It's helpful to know something about the subject though, rather than just repeating uninformed stereotypes.
For over 30 years. That's a bit more than once.
But he still keeps himself informed and still knows people currently working there.
It's a strange idea that such an experience and current interest is invalid. Does this happen in other occupations? If you have, say, a former air traffic controller worker with experience of stopping planes crashing in mid-air, would you give more credence to a traffic warden when discussing air safety? I mean planes and cars are the same thing aren't they?
It's helpful to know something about the subject though, rather than just repeating uninformed stereotypes.For over 30 years. That's a bit more than once.
But he still keeps himself informed and still knows people currently working there.
It's a strange idea that such an experience and current interest is invalid. Does this happen in other occupations? If you have, say, a former air traffic controller worker with experience of stopping planes crashing in mid-air, would you give more credence to a traffic warden when discussing air safety? I mean planes and cars are the same thing aren't they?

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